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Subject: 11923
Posted: Jan/08/2013 at 5:28pm

Five years later, this is a great post! Thanks for the lesson!

]]> Tue, 08 Jan 2013 17:28:18 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1224022#1224022 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : Lol... I can't believe people... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1202817#1202817 Author: Lux
Subject: 11923
Posted: Sep/29/2012 at 3:10pm

Lol... I can't believe people are treating their snowboard base like it was skin... It's inert. There are no pores like skin or wood. You can't moisturise it, and you can't chemically dessicate it. Do you want some Jergens Age Defying for your base too? haha!

The purpose of base cleaner is to unbond contaminants and wax from the base surface that mild soap and water cannot. Just use real base cleaner and a brush: plastic, fine brass, or silicone bristles, it won't matter. Citrus cleaner is a popular cheap alternative, albeit with a few unnecessary additives (dye, scenting agents, sometimes varnish/polish compounds).

Isopropyl alcohol and chlorinated brake cleaner are two other very strong alternative cleaners, but they vaporise extremely fast because they are almost pure solvent with no oil/slicking additives. If you're not quick, they can just dehydrate the contaminants completely while evaporating, rather than washing them out.
Originally posted by sdip12

I also had a question about scraping it off, is there a point where you are scraping off to much? i mean i know you cant scrape to much but how do you know when it is a good time to stop scraping?
When the base surface is perceivably even and little or no wax is being removed by your scraper is when you are done scraping. This, of course, depends on how true your scraper is... a good scraper will be nearest to true straight and stay like that for many uses. If not, or if you are a perfectionist, you may be able to send it to a professional machinist to grind to perfect straight again-- an odd request, but usually the case for metal scrapers.]]> Sat, 29 Sep 2012 15:10:58 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1202817#1202817 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : Yeah i need to stop using base... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1202810#1202810 Author: sdip12
Subject: 11923
Posted: Sep/29/2012 at 1:20pm

Yeah i need to stop using base cleaner i have only used it twice i think. So if you just hot wax the board that will be fine correct? I also had a question about scraping it off, is there a point where you are scraping off to much? i mean i know you cant scrape to much but how do you know when it is a good time to stop scraping?]]> Sat, 29 Sep 2012 13:20:54 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1202810#1202810 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : Originally posted by robnezz23 Originally... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1201540#1201540 Author: snowboardinrox357
Subject: 11923
Posted: Sep/22/2012 at 2:08pm

Originally posted by robnezz23


Originally posted by scorpio67

please read the following if you want the longest life of your board and the beast performance.....read "HOT WAX AND BASE CLEANING"....TRUST ME ON THIS ...ITS WORTH THE READ


 


http://www.tognar.com/waxing_tips_ski_snowboard.html

Dang how did this thread get buried and I never saw it till now. 
There are some old skool Sierra members at the beginning of this thread.


Same here. I haven't ever seen this thread before. So apparently you're not supposed to use base cleaner because it damaages your snowboard.]]> Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:08:16 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1201540#1201540 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : Originally posted by scorpio67please... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1201531#1201531 Author: robnezz23
Subject: 11923
Posted: Sep/22/2012 at 1:07pm

Originally posted by scorpio67

please read the following if you want the longest life of your board and the beast performance.....read "HOT WAX AND BASE CLEANING"....TRUST ME ON THIS ...ITS WORTH THE READ

 

http://www.tognar.com/waxing_tips_ski_snowboard.html




Dang how did this thread get buried and I never saw it till now.  There are some old skool Sierra members at the beginning of this thread.
]]> Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:07:49 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1201531#1201531 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : Good Stuff!!!! http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1179501#1179501 Author: eddiexchoi
Subject: 11923
Posted: May/07/2012 at 7:09pm

Good Stuff!!!!]]> Mon, 07 May 2012 19:09:04 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1179501#1179501 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : i dont use a base cleaner. by... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1163127#1163127 Author: JAMM0N
Subject: 11923
Posted: Feb/23/2012 at 11:19am

i dont use a base cleaner. by the end of the day all my wax is gone and i just apply more.

does anyone think that extruded bases need wax cleaner or does sintered need it also. i have a sintered and i dont think i ever need to clean my base before applying wax]]> Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:19:13 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1163127#1163127 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : I always use the toko wax remover... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1154085#1154085 Author: gepet0
Subject: 11923
Posted: Jan/31/2012 at 1:56am

I always use the toko wax remover to clea n the base of my snowboard before i have it waxed...

and i have never had any type of problem...


]]> Tue, 31 Jan 2012 01:56:59 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1154085#1154085 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : I switched to just plain old water... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1145361#1145361 Author: andyc5315
Subject: 11923
Posted: Jan/11/2012 at 5:02am

I switched to just plain old water from rubbing alcohol. Works just fine. Any complaints? ]]> Wed, 11 Jan 2012 05:02:33 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1145361#1145361 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : I still think that whole base... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1145360#1145360 Author: Leo
Subject: 11923
Posted: Jan/11/2012 at 5:00am

I still think that whole base cleaner thing is a wive's tale.

http://www.slidewright.com/weblog/ski-snowboard/waxing-ski-snowboard/base-cleaning-hot-scrape-or-cleaner/

I use citrus base cleaner all the time on my snowboards. Don't have a problem whatsoever with waxing afterwards.

Here's a couple of my boards after using citrus cleaner and waxing. I even dripped the citrus cleaner directly on the base and immediately wiped.




They rode great and didn't dry out for a couple of sessions on man-made crud.]]> Wed, 11 Jan 2012 05:00:44 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1145360#1145360 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : I heard a citrus base cleaner... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1144353#1144353 Author: rurchan
Subject: 11923
Posted: Jan/09/2012 at 11:59am

I heard a citrus base cleaner works pretty well]]> Mon, 09 Jan 2012 11:59:32 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1144353#1144353 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : Great Link. I didn't realize... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1144336#1144336 Author: letourneau41
Subject: 11923
Posted: Jan/09/2012 at 11:33am

Great Link. I didn't realize waxing was so much of a science. I picked up a few good tips though to wax my board. ]]> Mon, 09 Jan 2012 11:33:34 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1144336#1144336 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : man I love being informed and... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1144323#1144323 Author: Wzila
Subject: 11923
Posted: Jan/09/2012 at 11:03am

man  I love being informed and hate it at the same time. Now i'm OCD qbout hurting my board.... I clean my board with warm water and a rag every wax and use the swix cleaner ever 3rd wax, I wax ever other day on the snow. I use a home iron but never let it get hot enough for the wax to smoke. I have it just hot enough to melt the wax. I don't race but I do want my board to last as long as possible. Should i use a base prep wax and a new iron?]]> Mon, 09 Jan 2012 11:03:14 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1144323#1144323 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : I use the hot wax cleaning method... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1075596#1075596 Author: steelglass
Subject: 11923
Posted: Aug/23/2011 at 7:20pm

I use the hot wax cleaning method when I was snowboards.  To conserve wax I just rub the block of wax on the iron and crayon it on the base to give it a real thin layer.  After that heat it up and scrap it off.  The only time I use cleaners is when I make repairs.]]> Tue, 23 Aug 2011 19:20:19 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1075596#1075596 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : Thanks for that read http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1052153#1052153 Author: highway12south
Subject: 11923
Posted: Jun/19/2011 at 12:16pm

Thanks for that read]]> Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:16:19 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1052153#1052153 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : Thanks for the tips guys!! http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1046102#1046102 Author: Npomfret
Subject: 11923
Posted: Jun/01/2011 at 12:04am

Thanks for the tips guys!! ]]> Wed, 01 Jun 2011 00:04:12 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1046102#1046102 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : I use a base cleaner made by SWIX,... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1046092#1046092 Author: bmorse
Subject: 11923
Posted: May/31/2011 at 9:17pm

I use a base cleaner made by SWIX, but I only use it to clean the base if it is super dirty.  I don't use it everytime I wax, just when it needs it.  I've never had any issues with my base drying out, but when I do use it (which is rare) I use just a ilttle but.]]> Tue, 31 May 2011 21:17:57 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1046092#1046092 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : I always use a base cleaner if... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1045972#1045972 Author: barnyard
Subject: 11923
Posted: May/31/2011 at 3:29pm

I always use a base cleaner if it needs it.  I've never had it dry out my board or do anything negative to it.  I use One Ball Jay biogreen citrus.

http://www.rei.com/product/807551/one-ball-jay-biogreen-natural-wax-remover
]]> Tue, 31 May 2011 15:29:51 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1045972#1045972 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : That's what I use for base... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1041225#1041225 Author: Dice
Subject: 11923
Posted: May/17/2011 at 1:08pm

That's what I use for base cleaning! To remove dirt and what not which otherwise would
limit my base absorbtion of wax!!!
 
 
And that's what I used as base prep before waxing to have base prime and ready for a good hot wax.
 
 
 
And then comes a nice hot wax... LOL
 
cheers...
]]> Tue, 17 May 2011 13:08:42 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1041225#1041225 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : that is a hell of a find. def... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1017006#1017006 Author: zakk
Subject: 11923
Posted: Mar/28/2011 at 9:14am

that is a hell of a find.  def going to rethink using the base cleaner and the scraper sharpening tips were cool.  thanks for sharing this.  ]]> Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:14:39 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1017006#1017006 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : Originally posted by shop_3694And... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1016217#1016217 Author: canadianbacon
Subject: 11923
Posted: Mar/26/2011 at 9:52pm

Originally posted by shop_3694

And you how you propose to do that? Bend the laws of physics? Besides, trying to rid your base of all "contaminants" is some crazy OCD stuff. Are you the kind of person who washes their hands a hundred times a day? News for you... it actually harms your body. And trying to clean your board of all contaminents will harm your base, plain and simple. All you need to do is wipe the board with a wet towel to get rid of 90% of the crunk and then the hot wax will take care of the rest.


Dude seriously, the aggression is completely unwarranted.

1) Apparently you've never ridden a mountain like bear that cakes crap on your base,
2) I've worked as a shop tech for years, and citrus base cleaner is not dangerous to your base
3) Once the base cleaner is no longer present in liquid form on your base, you can begin a base cleaning pass with your wax, which will remove contaminants, as well as any base cleaner that is still in the base. This keeps the base from drying out, and get your base well cleaned and ready to absorb your base layer.
4) Every little thing counts when tenths of a second means the difference between 1st and 4th
5) Even the article mentioned in the original post encourages citrus based base cleaners. It says to not pour on, just damp a cloth and wipe base, the properties of the cleaner acts as magnets that will bring up material that wax won't always bring up

Don't fight a losing battle]]> Sat, 26 Mar 2011 21:52:49 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1016217#1016217 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : Y693S_DI-PY http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1016212#1016212 Author: EMHM00
Subject: 11923
Posted: Mar/26/2011 at 9:43pm

[TUBE]Y693S_DI-PY[/TUBE]
]]> Sat, 26 Mar 2011 21:43:19 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1016212#1016212 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : will keep this in mind when i... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1016210#1016210 Author: actekboarder
Subject: 11923
Posted: Mar/26/2011 at 9:35pm

will keep this in mind when i work on my board.]]> Sat, 26 Mar 2011 21:35:58 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1016210#1016210 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : Originally posted by canadianbaconYou... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1011234#1011234 Author: shop_3694
Subject: 11923
Posted: Mar/19/2011 at 1:33am

Originally posted by canadianbacon

You just need to make sure your not letting the base cleaner dry out your base
And you how you propose to do that?  Bend the laws of physics?  Besides, trying to rid your base of all "contaminants" is some crazy OCD stuff.  Are you the kind of person who washes their hands a hundred times a day?  News for you... it actually harms your body.  And trying to clean your board of all contaminents will harm your base, plain and simple.  All you need to do is wipe the board with a wet towel to get rid of 90% of the crunk and then the hot wax will take care of the rest.
]]> Sat, 19 Mar 2011 01:33:23 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1011234#1011234 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : wastes alot of wax, and is relatively... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1011222#1011222 Author: canadianbacon
Subject: 11923
Posted: Mar/19/2011 at 12:55am

wastes alot of wax, and is relatively ineffective compared to a citrus base cleaner. You just need to make sure your not letting the base cleaner dry out your base]]> Sat, 19 Mar 2011 00:55:30 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1011222#1011222 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : you could remove it with the hot... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1011212#1011212 Author: jenni
Subject: 11923
Posted: Mar/19/2011 at 12:40am

you could remove it with the hot wax method where you drip and remove right away. waste a whole lot of wax though ]]> Sat, 19 Mar 2011 00:40:05 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1011212#1011212 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : you shouldn't wax without... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1011211#1011211 Author: canadianbacon
Subject: 11923
Posted: Mar/19/2011 at 12:38am

you shouldn't wax without removing contaminants from your board, you should always use a citrus cleaner, and always clean your base before a wax, if you want to do it the right way. I will never do a race prep wax without cleaning the base and removing contaminents]]> Sat, 19 Mar 2011 00:38:51 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1011211#1011211 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : the base cleaner can be used,... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1011208#1011208 Author: keljai
Subject: 11923
Posted: Mar/19/2011 at 12:26am

the base cleaner can be used, but dont use it unless the base is really dirty or required. it dries out the base if you use it too much. but if you gotta use it, use it ]]> Sat, 19 Mar 2011 00:26:00 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1011208#1011208 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : good to know http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1011198#1011198 Author: strider2375
Subject: 11923
Posted: Mar/18/2011 at 11:44pm

good to know]]> Fri, 18 Mar 2011 23:44:30 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1011198#1011198 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : what canadianbacon said, its a... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1011195#1011195 Author: kel
Subject: 11923
Posted: Mar/18/2011 at 11:01pm

what canadianbacon said, its a citrus base cleaner that you want to clean the board not excatly a oil remover NOR dish washing detergent ]]> Fri, 18 Mar 2011 23:01:54 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1011195#1011195 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : holy crap thats more than i wanted... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1011188#1011188 Author: nautika96
Subject: 11923
Posted: Mar/18/2011 at 10:36pm

holy crap thats more than i wanted to know about waxing. good info nonetheless]]> Fri, 18 Mar 2011 22:36:12 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1011188#1011188 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : Originally posted by aecho1231i... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1011186#1011186 Author: canadianbacon
Subject: 11923
Posted: Mar/18/2011 at 10:19pm

Originally posted by aecho1231

i wouldnt recommend using dish washing detergent. go to your local auto zone place, and get oil remover/greese wash.


no you don't use any of that, you buy a citrus based base cleaner from your local snowboard shop]]> Fri, 18 Mar 2011 22:19:57 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1011186#1011186 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : i wouldnt recommend using dish... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1011173#1011173 Author: aecho1231
Subject: 11923
Posted: Mar/18/2011 at 10:01pm

i wouldnt recommend using dish washing detergent. go to your local auto zone place, and get oil remover/greese wash.]]> Fri, 18 Mar 2011 22:01:07 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1011173#1011173 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : the title of this article is wrong from... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1011169#1011169 Author: canadianbacon
Subject: 11923
Posted: Mar/18/2011 at 9:33pm

the title of this article is wrong

from the article itself:

"BASE CLEANER TIP
A leading p-tex manufacturer advises that to help minimize any chance of reduced wax absorption after cleaning ski or snowboard bases, wax solvents should not be poured directly on a base, but rather sprayed or dripped onto a clean, lint-free cloth or piece of fiberlene or base tex paper, and the base cleaned with the cloth."

lol, pretty decent overview of waxing though, but this is too much for an average consumer, this really does mean much to anyone, unless your actually competing
]]> Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:33:49 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1011169#1011169 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : Very informative link. I've... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1011166#1011166 Author: bmorse
Subject: 11923
Posted: Mar/18/2011 at 9:23pm

Very informative link.  I've read it before, but nice to be reminded of good tuning and waxing tips.  Thanks for the info.]]> Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:23:34 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1011166#1011166 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : cool lots of good tips http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1003694#1003694 Author: gjyeske
Subject: 11923
Posted: Mar/08/2011 at 2:00pm

cool lots of good tips ]]> Tue, 08 Mar 2011 14:00:13 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=1003694#1003694 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : Originally posted by BackflipmasterdanaWaxing... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=981889#981889 Author: ChuckJohns
Subject: 11923
Posted: Feb/10/2011 at 6:57am

Originally posted by Backflipmasterdana

Waxing your board is for cheaters! Just ride edge to edge all the time and you avoid the need to wax your board :)
LOL!!! I wish I could do that.. I hate waxing my board.]]> Thu, 10 Feb 2011 06:57:08 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=981889#981889 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : Waxing your board is for cheaters!... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=981881#981881 Author: Backflipmasterdana
Subject: 11923
Posted: Feb/10/2011 at 6:46am

Waxing your board is for cheaters! Just ride edge to edge all the time and you avoid the need to wax your board :) ]]> Thu, 10 Feb 2011 06:46:00 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=981881#981881 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : Great Information, have read this... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=980577#980577 Author: MtMansfield
Subject: 11923
Posted: Feb/08/2011 at 6:29pm

Great Information, have read this before but this time around picked up on things I missed reading in the past]]> Tue, 08 Feb 2011 18:29:30 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=980577#980577 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : What do you use, like what type... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=980569#980569 Author: muddog257
Subject: 11923
Posted: Feb/08/2011 at 6:20pm

What do you use, like what type of cleaner. Goo gone, Mean Green,etc.]]> Tue, 08 Feb 2011 18:20:25 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=980569#980569 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : thanks http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=980085#980085 Author: NikolaSpee
Subject: 11923
Posted: Feb/08/2011 at 11:08am

thanks ]]> Tue, 08 Feb 2011 11:08:43 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=980085#980085 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : Great knowledge to have, Thanks!... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=980081#980081 Author: KainRoK
Subject: 11923
Posted: Feb/08/2011 at 11:05am

Great knowledge to have, Thanks! ]]> Tue, 08 Feb 2011 11:05:14 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=980081#980081 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : o wow i just got do reading that.... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=980077#980077 Author: ilovewww
Subject: 11923
Posted: Feb/08/2011 at 11:01am

o wow i just got do reading that. that was long. but thanks i learn a lot i didn't know.]]> Tue, 08 Feb 2011 11:01:46 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=980077#980077 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : unfortunately, base cleaner*... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=574965#574965 Author: Piranha
Subject: 11923
Posted: Sep/22/2009 at 9:19am

unfortunately, base cleaner* may be the only option that will get all that stubborn spring dirt off your base...or at least the only real option for us basic, non-pro snowboarders 

that dirt impregnated wax is hard to get off, but don't be tempted to just pour base cleaner on the base and walk away - don't let it sit!  Instead, pour it on a cloth and just keep rubbing the base just until the dirt is gone...then hot wax immediately

you may want to wait until the season is over to use any base cleaner... that way, after cleaning, you can just melt a fat storage layer of wax on there for summer



*(or any all purpose orange/citrus based house cleaner)]]> Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:19:46 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=574965#574965 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : Thanks for that site http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=574532#574532 Author: DarthMullet
Subject: 11923
Posted: Sep/21/2009 at 11:52am

Thanks for that site]]> Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:52:45 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=574532#574532 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : windex??!!!...just buy some... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=484595#484595 Author: Piranha
Subject: 11923
Posted: Apr/22/2009 at 1:15pm

windex??!!!...just buy some Simple Green]]> Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:15:36 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=484595#484595 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : windex dries out your board more,... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=480084#480084 Author: shop_45296
Subject: 11923
Posted: Apr/18/2009 at 9:50am

windex dries out your board more, but you're waxing right afterwords, it's not too bad.  i just scrub it down with a paper towel and water before i wax.  just make sure it dries before you wax]]> Sat, 18 Apr 2009 09:50:13 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=480084#480084 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : i have heard you can use windex... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=451189#451189 Author: heischjr
Subject: 11923
Posted: Mar/30/2009 at 7:54am

i have heard you can use windex as a substitute for a base cleaner.  Any thoughts on this?]]> Mon, 30 Mar 2009 07:54:45 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=451189#451189 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : very good to know! http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=435806#435806 Author: muddyshopper
Subject: 11923
Posted: Mar/23/2009 at 11:07am

very good to know!]]> Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:07:43 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=435806#435806 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : ^ good to here that they are dependable.... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=406841#406841 Author: azn_dan
Subject: 11923
Posted: Mar/10/2009 at 9:00am

^ good to here that they are dependable. Gonna have to grab it for like 12 bucks now :D]]> Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:00:03 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=406841#406841 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : dakines are generally very temp... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=398166#398166 Author: morrowman54
Subject: 11923
Posted: Mar/05/2009 at 3:25pm

dakines are generally very temp consistent]]> Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:25:47 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=398166#398166 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : good tips here... i have no idea... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=389125#389125 Author: icymallard
Subject: 11923
Posted: Mar/01/2009 at 12:00pm

good tips here... i have no idea how temp consistent my dakine iron is... im getting worried ]]> Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:00:41 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=389125#389125 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : pretty informative link http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=383853#383853 Author: surface_damage
Subject: 11923
Posted: Feb/26/2009 at 9:50am

pretty informative link]]> Thu, 26 Feb 2009 09:50:51 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=383853#383853 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : Thank you!!! I have been looking... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=383123#383123 Author: krispysteve
Subject: 11923
Posted: Feb/25/2009 at 8:34pm

Thank you!!!  I have been looking for a solid link to reference, now I've got one. 
 
Making Steve smarter one post at a time.
 
Steve.
]]> Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:34:50 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=383123#383123 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : good sight... but isnt that sorta... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=382882#382882 Author: jodds68
Subject: 11923
Posted: Feb/25/2009 at 6:17pm

good sight... but isnt that sorta common sense   ]]> Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:17:46 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=382882#382882 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : Hmmmm. Interesting. http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=360867#360867 Author: shreddog_123
Subject: 11923
Posted: Feb/13/2009 at 1:20pm

Hmmmm. Interesting. Clap]]> Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:20:28 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=360867#360867 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : There are times when base cleaner... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=355197#355197 Author: myke
Subject: 11923
Posted: Feb/09/2009 at 10:38pm

There are times when base cleaner does come in handy. The wax that builds up in your base can, and will, trap dirt and all kindsa nastiness over time. 

I normally go over my boards with base cleaner at the end of the season - before throwing a heavy layer of wax on for summer storage. It just pulls all the built-up crud and dirt out of the base that otherwise would just be sitting there all year. Every so often over the summer - I check to make sure the bases aren't drying out - and if they are, give it a quick once over with some fresh wax (don't scrape before storing).

The other time I use base cleaner, is if my boards get seriously fouled up during the early season. You get thin spots, rocks, treestumps, etc - and you end up with all sorts of dirt and gunk in there again. Base cleaner will pull all that stuff out - and give you a nice fresh slate to work with, so you can build up a good fast base for the peak season.

Hot scraping works for day-to-day stuff, but there's times where it's just not enough. It will get surface gunk out pretty well - but if you have dirt and grime really mashed into your board - it simply will not work.
That dirt and gunk will effect your board's ability to absorb fresh wax - and cause many problems in terms of actually having a fast board. If you're careful with the cleaner, the results of cleaning with chemicals can be far superior to that of just hot scraping and hoping it gets all the dirt out.

The key is just to know when and how to use it. Use it as little as possible, as rarely as possible.

]]> Mon, 09 Feb 2009 22:38:40 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=355197#355197 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : thats what i like to see. http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=348864#348864 Author: volcomsnwbrdr7
Subject: 11923
Posted: Feb/04/2009 at 8:32pm

thats what i like to see.]]> Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:32:27 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=348864#348864 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : ya hot scraping is way better,... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=347930#347930 Author: soxplayer
Subject: 11923
Posted: Feb/04/2009 at 12:11pm

ya hot scraping is way better, the bottom of your board is poarus like your skin so it soaks in the wax, the cleaner can do the same the oils in it are bad for the base, if you haave never hot scraped b4 try it, its no biggy and suppose to be excellent for your base]]> Wed, 04 Feb 2009 12:11:31 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=347930#347930 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : Originally posted by bluedot_snowthey... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=328736#328736 Author: k2mix721
Subject: 11923
Posted: Jan/20/2009 at 7:35am

Originally posted by bluedot_snow

they must have changed the format a little because there wasn't a section that matched the phrase hot wax and base clean. I did read that a solvent or cleaner should be applied to a towel first and oh wait did they forget to mention to dilute it first!?! anyone who's going to dump a bottle of simple green or paint thinner on there deck and call it clean doesn't deserve to ride a snowboard they make these things called, oh what are they called directional skis? 
 
I would NEVER use either of those on any of my rides but simple green green might be okay because its all natural and the ingredients in it are not very strong. Still both of those are a no go for me though. The thing about putting base cleaner on a rag first is right on for sure and good call on diluting it a bit. One thing people need to remember when using base cleaner other than what you have mentioned is a little bit goes a lonnnnnng way for sure.Smile 
 
 
]]> Tue, 20 Jan 2009 07:35:57 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=328736#328736 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : they must have changed the format... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=327887#327887 Author: bluedot_snow
Subject: 11923
Posted: Jan/19/2009 at 9:58am

they must have changed the format a little because there wasn't a section that matched the phrase hot wax and base clean. I did read that a solvent or cleaner should be applied to a towel first and oh wait did they forget to mention to dilute it first!?! anyone who's going to dump a bottle of simple green or paint thinner on there deck and call it clean doesn't deserve to ride a snowboard they make these things called, oh what are they called directional skis? ]]> Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:58:29 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=327887#327887 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : I usually just clean my base with... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=311041#311041 Author: ridesnowboarder
Subject: 11923
Posted: Jan/01/2009 at 8:37am

I usually just clean my base with a warm rag before I wax]]> Thu, 01 Jan 2009 08:37:16 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=311041#311041 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : Originally posted by yipperzzyeah... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=238515#238515 Author: k2mix721
Subject: 11923
Posted: Oct/22/2008 at 6:42am

Originally posted by yipperzz

yeah i can see how it can dry it out pretty badly if you use too much.  but i only use it at the end of the season to clean off the crap from spring conditions.  and i pour a little on the cloth and try to wipe it off.  if it doesn't take enough off, i then put a little more.  i think that warning is for people who pour it all over. 

this is what i saw on the site:

BASE CLEANER TIP
A leading p-tex manufacturer advises that to help minimize any chance of reduced wax absorption after cleaning ski or snowboard bases, wax solvents should not be poured directly on a base, but rather sprayed or dripped onto a clean, lint-free cloth or piece of fiberlene or base tex paper, and the base cleaned with the cloth.


I do the same thing at the end of the season. In the spring my board gets sooo dirty and I have a white bottom. I get what I can off with hot scraping but what I cant I take off with that I take off with OBJ Citrus base cleaner (little tiny bit goes a long way) then before my boards go away for the season they get a nice fresh wax.Big%20smile  I guess its your own personal preferance but that works okay for me and my budsSmile
]]> Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:42:01 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=238515#238515 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : Aren't fake snow and real... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=238459#238459 Author: ANGRY AGENT
Subject: 11923
Posted: Oct/22/2008 at 12:15am

Aren't fake snow and real snow the same thing?  Anyways I enjoyed reading this, kind of like a refresher course. ThanksBig%20smile]]> Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:15:52 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=238459#238459 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : Base cleaners shouldONLY be used... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=195516#195516 Author: stark03
Subject: 11923
Posted: Apr/15/2008 at 8:39pm

Base cleaners should ONLY be used when doing base repairs, or when you need to remove the wax on your board to ride in fake snow. Other then that NEVER use them rubbing alcohol removes dirt just fine.]]> Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:39:30 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=195516#195516 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : Originally posted by yipperzzyeah... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=191117#191117 Author: shop_3694
Subject: 11923
Posted: Mar/29/2008 at 12:20pm

Originally posted by yipperzz

yeah i can see how it can dry it out pretty badly ifyou use too much.  but i only use it at the end of the season to cleanoff the crap from spring conditions.
This is exactly when you shouldn't use base cleaner... at the end of the season.  At the very least, if you do use base cleaner, apply a generous layer of hot wax on your board before you store it so that the base doesn't dry out in the offseason.]]> Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:20:13 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=191117#191117 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : I just think for my ownpersonal... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=174827#174827 Author: scorpio67
Subject: 11923
Posted: Feb/11/2008 at 7:58am

I just think for my own personal reasons that if the boards manufactures say not to use these base cleaners there might be a suitable reason behind it, on the other hand we are not professional racers so will it effect us on the mountain enough to really notice, for me I just want the longest life out of my board and if avoiding base cleaners can extend the life of my board, why not? Good luck and stay safe on the mountain.

]]> Mon, 11 Feb 2008 07:58:57 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=174827#174827 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : yeah i can see how it can dry... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=174769#174769 Author: yipperzz
Subject: 11923
Posted: Feb/10/2008 at 9:55pm

yeah i can see how it can dry it out pretty badly if you use too much.  but i only use it at the end of the season to clean off the crap from spring conditions.  and i pour a little on the cloth and try to wipe it off.  if it doesn't take enough off, i then put a little more.  i think that warning is for people who pour it all over. 

this is what i saw on the site:

BASE CLEANER TIP
A leading p-tex manufacturer advises that to help minimize any chance of reduced wax absorption after cleaning ski or snowboard bases, wax solvents should not be poured directly on a base, but rather sprayed or dripped onto a clean, lint-free cloth or piece of fiberlene or base tex paper, and the base cleaned with the cloth.
]]> Sun, 10 Feb 2008 21:55:37 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=174769#174769 never use a base cleaner on your snow board : Never remove wax from your base... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=174737#174737 Author: scorpio67
Subject: 11923
Posted: Feb/10/2008 at 8:33pm

  • Never remove wax from your base with natural or synthetic cleaners. They are not recommended by ski manufacturers. Hot-wax scraping (see below) will enable your skis to run faster as the season goes on. You can use these wax cleaners to clean tools and scrapers.
  • Keep all tools clean. There are wire brushes for files and diamond stones clean well with a sink cleanser like "Ajax" and water.
    •  
    http://www.racewax.com/servlet/the-template/ttbasics/Page
     
     this site is just as good if not better ,
     
    Although base cleaners do work nicely, as suggested by Racewax.com they can be bad for the board of your snowboard as they can dry the base out making your hotwax a seemless waste of time.

    They suggest doing a hotwax cleaning method.

    ]]>     Sun, 10 Feb 2008 20:33:12 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=174737#174737     never use a base cleaner on your snow board : am i missing something? where... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=174719#174719 Author: yipperzz
    Subject: 11923
    Posted: Feb/10/2008 at 7:53pm

    am i missing something?  where does it say never use a base cleaner?  the only thing i saw was to put it on a cloth instead of directly on the base?]]>     Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:53:37 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=174719#174719     never use a base cleaner on your snow board : awesome site so informative. ... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=174544#174544 Author: sambo2476
    Subject: 11923
    Posted: Feb/10/2008 at 4:12am

    awesome site so informative.]]>     Sun, 10 Feb 2008 04:12:34 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=174544#174544     never use a base cleaner on your snow board : good site, learned alot bout waxes... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=174402#174402 Author: natesnowboards
    Subject: 11923
    Posted: Feb/09/2008 at 2:49pm

    good site, learned alot bout waxes]]>     Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:49:38 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=174402#174402     never use a base cleaner on your snow board : good site find OP... that's... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=133852#133852 Author: Dr. Nu-Nu
    Subject: 11923
    Posted: Oct/12/2007 at 6:26pm

    good site find OP...
     
    that's one of brody's favorites.
    ]]>     Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:26:42 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=133852#133852     never use a base cleaner on your snow board : i've read that before. There's... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=133815#133815 Author: myke
    Subject: 11923
    Posted: Oct/12/2007 at 3:28pm

    i've read that before.
     
    There's some conflicting information in there though.
    At one point they said tempatures in excessive of 240(i think it was) will damage your base.
     
    Further down, they posted a tip somebody put in, that said the best way to get wax to absorb is to heat it with an iron to about 248 for like 5-8 minutes.
     
    ???
    ]]>     Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:28:01 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=133815#133815     never use a base cleaner on your snow board : dang that sites thorough http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=133623#133623 Author: zagfan5
    Subject: 11923
    Posted: Oct/11/2007 at 10:12pm

    dang that sites thorough]]>     Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:12:23 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=133623#133623     never use a base cleaner on your snow board : http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=132348#132348 Author: moldygiraffe
    Subject: 11923
    Posted: Oct/09/2007 at 3:18am

    Clap]]>     Tue, 09 Oct 2007 03:18:10 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=132348#132348     never use a base cleaner on your snow board : very good:Di like the pros tips:) ... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=129830#129830 Author: Raines
    Subject: 11923
    Posted: Sep/29/2007 at 10:45am

    very good:D

    i like the pros tips:)
    ]]>     Sat, 29 Sep 2007 10:45:42 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=129830#129830     never use a base cleaner on your snow board : please read the following if you... http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=129823#129823 Author: scorpio67
    Subject: 11923
    Posted: Sep/29/2007 at 10:11am

    please read the following if you want the longest life of your board and the beast performance.....read "HOT WAX AND BASE CLEANING"....TRUST ME ON THIS ...ITS WORTH THE READ

     

    http://www.tognar.com/waxing_tips_ski_snowboard.html

    ]]>     Sat, 29 Sep 2007 10:11:56 +0000 http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11923&PID=129823#129823