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  Quote keljai Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: never use a base cleaner on your snow board
    Posted: Mar/18/2011 at 10:26pm
the base cleaner can be used, but dont use it unless the base is really dirty or required. it dries out the base if you use it too much. but if you gotta use it, use it 
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  Quote canadianbacon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/18/2011 at 10:38pm
you shouldn't wax without removing contaminants from your board, you should always use a citrus cleaner, and always clean your base before a wax, if you want to do it the right way. I will never do a race prep wax without cleaning the base and removing contaminents
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  Quote jenni Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/18/2011 at 10:40pm
you could remove it with the hot wax method where you drip and remove right away. waste a whole lot of wax though 
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  Quote canadianbacon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/18/2011 at 10:55pm
wastes alot of wax, and is relatively ineffective compared to a citrus base cleaner. You just need to make sure your not letting the base cleaner dry out your base
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  Quote shop_3694 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/18/2011 at 11:33pm
Originally posted by canadianbacon

You just need to make sure your not letting the base cleaner dry out your base
And you how you propose to do that?  Bend the laws of physics?  Besides, trying to rid your base of all "contaminants" is some crazy OCD stuff.  Are you the kind of person who washes their hands a hundred times a day?  News for you... it actually harms your body.  And trying to clean your board of all contaminents will harm your base, plain and simple.  All you need to do is wipe the board with a wet towel to get rid of 90% of the crunk and then the hot wax will take care of the rest.
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  Quote actekboarder Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/26/2011 at 7:35pm
will keep this in mind when i work on my board.
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  Quote canadianbacon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/26/2011 at 7:52pm
Originally posted by shop_3694

And you how you propose to do that? Bend the laws of physics? Besides, trying to rid your base of all "contaminants" is some crazy OCD stuff. Are you the kind of person who washes their hands a hundred times a day? News for you... it actually harms your body. And trying to clean your board of all contaminents will harm your base, plain and simple. All you need to do is wipe the board with a wet towel to get rid of 90% of the crunk and then the hot wax will take care of the rest.


Dude seriously, the aggression is completely unwarranted.

1) Apparently you've never ridden a mountain like bear that cakes crap on your base,
2) I've worked as a shop tech for years, and citrus base cleaner is not dangerous to your base
3) Once the base cleaner is no longer present in liquid form on your base, you can begin a base cleaning pass with your wax, which will remove contaminants, as well as any base cleaner that is still in the base. This keeps the base from drying out, and get your base well cleaned and ready to absorb your base layer.
4) Every little thing counts when tenths of a second means the difference between 1st and 4th
5) Even the article mentioned in the original post encourages citrus based base cleaners. It says to not pour on, just damp a cloth and wipe base, the properties of the cleaner acts as magnets that will bring up material that wax won't always bring up

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  Quote zakk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/28/2011 at 7:14am
that is a hell of a find.  def going to rethink using the base cleaner and the scraper sharpening tips were cool.  thanks for sharing this.  
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  Quote Dice Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/17/2011 at 11:08am
That's what I use for base cleaning! To remove dirt and what not which otherwise would
limit my base absorbtion of wax!!!
 
 
And that's what I used as base prep before waxing to have base prime and ready for a good hot wax.
 
 
 
And then comes a nice hot wax... LOL
 
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  Quote barnyard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/31/2011 at 1:29pm
I always use a base cleaner if it needs it.  I've never had it dry out my board or do anything negative to it.  I use One Ball Jay biogreen citrus.

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  Quote bmorse Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/31/2011 at 7:17pm
I use a base cleaner made by SWIX, but I only use it to clean the base if it is super dirty.  I don't use it everytime I wax, just when it needs it.  I've never had any issues with my base drying out, but when I do use it (which is rare) I use just a ilttle but.
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  Quote Npomfret Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/31/2011 at 10:04pm
Thanks for the tips guys!!
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  Quote highway12south Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/19/2011 at 10:16am
Thanks for that read
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  Quote steelglass Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/23/2011 at 5:20pm
I use the hot wax cleaning method when I was snowboards.  To conserve wax I just rub the block of wax on the iron and crayon it on the base to give it a real thin layer.  After that heat it up and scrap it off.  The only time I use cleaners is when I make repairs.
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  Quote Wzila Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/09/2012 at 9:03am
man  I love being informed and hate it at the same time. Now i'm OCD qbout hurting my board.... I clean my board with warm water and a rag every wax and use the swix cleaner ever 3rd wax, I wax ever other day on the snow. I use a home iron but never let it get hot enough for the wax to smoke. I have it just hot enough to melt the wax. I don't race but I do want my board to last as long as possible. Should i use a base prep wax and a new iron?
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  Quote letourneau41 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/09/2012 at 9:33am
Great Link. I didn't realize waxing was so much of a science. I picked up a few good tips though to wax my board.
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  Quote rurchan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/09/2012 at 9:59am
I heard a citrus base cleaner works pretty well
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  Quote Leo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/11/2012 at 3:00am
I still think that whole base cleaner thing is a wive's tale.

http://www.slidewright.com/weblog/ski-snowboard/waxing-ski-snowboard/base-cleaning-hot-scrape-or-cleaner/

I use citrus base cleaner all the time on my snowboards. Don't have a problem whatsoever with waxing afterwards.

Here's a couple of my boards after using citrus cleaner and waxing. I even dripped the citrus cleaner directly on the base and immediately wiped.




They rode great and didn't dry out for a couple of sessions on man-made crud.
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I switched to just plain old water from rubbing alcohol. Works just fine. Any complaints? 
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  Quote gepet0 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/30/2012 at 11:56pm
I always use the toko wax remover to clea n the base of my snowboard before i have it waxed...

and i have never had any type of problem...


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  Quote JAMM0N Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/23/2012 at 9:19am
i dont use a base cleaner. by the end of the day all my wax is gone and i just apply more.

does anyone think that extruded bases need wax cleaner or does sintered need it also. i have a sintered and i dont think i ever need to clean my base before applying wax
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Good Stuff!!!!
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  Quote robnezz23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/22/2012 at 11:07am
Originally posted by scorpio67

please read the following if you want the longest life of your board and the beast performance.....read "HOT WAX AND BASE CLEANING"....TRUST ME ON THIS ...ITS WORTH THE READ

 

http://www.tognar.com/waxing_tips_ski_snowboard.html




Dang how did this thread get buried and I never saw it till now.  There are some old skool Sierra members at the beginning of this thread.
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Originally posted by robnezz23


Originally posted by scorpio67

please read the following if you want the longest life of your board and the beast performance.....read "HOT WAX AND BASE CLEANING"....TRUST ME ON THIS ...ITS WORTH THE READ


 


http://www.tognar.com/waxing_tips_ski_snowboard.html

Dang how did this thread get buried and I never saw it till now. 
There are some old skool Sierra members at the beginning of this thread.


Same here. I haven't ever seen this thread before. So apparently you're not supposed to use base cleaner because it damaages your snowboard.
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  Quote sdip12 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/29/2012 at 11:20am
Yeah i need to stop using base cleaner i have only used it twice i think. So if you just hot wax the board that will be fine correct? I also had a question about scraping it off, is there a point where you are scraping off to much? i mean i know you cant scrape to much but how do you know when it is a good time to stop scraping?
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  Quote Lux Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/29/2012 at 1:10pm
Lol... I can't believe people are treating their snowboard base like it was skin... It's inert. There are no pores like skin or wood. You can't moisturise it, and you can't chemically dessicate it. Do you want some Jergens Age Defying for your base too? haha!

The purpose of base cleaner is to unbond contaminants and wax from the base surface that mild soap and water cannot. Just use real base cleaner and a brush: plastic, fine brass, or silicone bristles, it won't matter. Citrus cleaner is a popular cheap alternative, albeit with a few unnecessary additives (dye, scenting agents, sometimes varnish/polish compounds).

Isopropyl alcohol and chlorinated brake cleaner are two other very strong alternative cleaners, but they vaporise extremely fast because they are almost pure solvent with no oil/slicking additives. If you're not quick, they can just dehydrate the contaminants completely while evaporating, rather than washing them out.
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I also had a question about scraping it off, is there a point where you are scraping off to much? i mean i know you cant scrape to much but how do you know when it is a good time to stop scraping?
When the base surface is perceivably even and little or no wax is being removed by your scraper is when you are done scraping. This, of course, depends on how true your scraper is... a good scraper will be nearest to true straight and stay like that for many uses. If not, or if you are a perfectionist, you may be able to send it to a professional machinist to grind to perfect straight again-- an odd request, but usually the case for metal scrapers.
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