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fostpaint
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Topic: How young can you teach riding-Posted: Dec/19/2008 at 8:31am |
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So I've got a 3 yr old who is totally set on the idea of Santa bringing him a snowboard (just like his dad). I took him out last weekend, but was told he should ski, rather than board, given how young he was. He had fun skiing (and so did I, after 12 years away) but I still would like to get him on a board. Anyone have any tales or advice on teaching a pre-schooler to ride? Tricks, tools, etc?
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barnyard
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Posted: Dec/19/2008 at 10:16am |
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little kids are fearless and shred!
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fostpaint
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Posted: Dec/19/2008 at 10:43am |
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Yeah, but most mountains won't teach it until 6 or 7, and the earliest I've seen is 4. Wondering if there's anything I can do to get mini-me out this season without totally turning him off to it. (and since I'm fairly new to riding, looking for any advice I can get for him)
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k2mix721
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Posted: Dec/19/2008 at 1:12pm |
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i dont know if you know anyone that works at the mountain but thats a suggestion. if not then ask some friends or family maybe someone else has a connection and you could set up a lesson and just throw whoever a few bucks or something. my little cousin wanted to ride and i dont live by him so my uncle just asked around to his friends and sure enough someone knew someone.
my two cents... hope he gets to shred
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SKOOTIE
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Posted: Dec/20/2008 at 10:36am |
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I think the earlier they learn how to ride, the less fearless they're going to be when they learn. Different mountains have different rules about how old you have to be to learn, so I recommend just asking around. You'll probably find something for him :).
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Hindu Hero
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Posted: Dec/20/2008 at 2:12pm |
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good luck on trying to teach him, the earlier he learns the better he'll be when he gets older
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fostpaint
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Posted: Dec/27/2008 at 6:03pm |
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Thanks for the input. We got one of those little plastic backyard boards with the single strap (so not really step in, but slip in?) binders for the kid. We'll see how he does around the house and find him a mountain to tear it up...
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noelle.lynne
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Posted: Dec/27/2008 at 7:30pm |
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I have seen two or three year olds boarding
They just need help getting up |
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ridesnowboarder
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Posted: Jan/01/2009 at 9:05am |
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Some little kids can shred!
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Mikeyb619
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Posted: Jan/08/2009 at 8:51am |
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go on youtube and search for little kid snowboarders... their center of gravity is so awesome. Its like they don't even fall, they just bounce around it seems lol. I wish I could have started at a much younger age because I wouldn't be as scared to try new things like they are
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board_to_death
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Posted: Feb/07/2009 at 8:46am |
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i teach at Mt. Snow in VT and i have a 3 year old. he is on skis -- I don't assess him ready enough to be riding, and i think he'd have more fun on skis right now. He hasn't asked about riding, and for me that is ok.
But that is my son. Given your son is stoked to ride, I say go ahead and get him something to try.
So the focus on is FUN, learning at this age is a DISTANT second. So if he wants to slide on a board, go ahead and get him one. Just let him have fun sliding. could just be one footed riding. Maybe you can teach some J-turns. But whatever he wants to do, just let him try it safely. Let him focus on loving the snow, and loving sliding. And for me, my rule is as soon as they say they are done ... they are done. It is time for hot chocolate. Don't become the snow nazi. Have fun ... let us know how it turns out. |
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Stryker
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Posted: Feb/08/2009 at 9:25am |
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I am trying to teach my niece who is 6 to ride and it is a tough proposition because you have to keep you patience. I have learned that you can't push and it is all about fun. It gets frustrating at times but you have to just grin and bear it. But when you see progress it is there is a lot of statisfaction. Patience and encouragement seems to be the key.
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Stryker
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Posted: Feb/08/2009 at 9:26am |
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It is hard to find places where there are group lessons for kids under 7 on the east coast. We are taking her for a private lesson next week and I will let you know how it goes.
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fostpaint
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Posted: Feb/08/2009 at 6:09pm |
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Ugh. The plastic piece of crap doesn't fit the kids feet-- the straps are too big, even jacked down all the way, so we returned it. I'm debating trying to come up with the cash to pick up the Grom Freestyle Jr and Burton Chopper, but my $30 board purchase just jumped to a couple hundred. I think we'll be renting first. :D
BTD-- What makes you say your son wasn't ready? I'm flip flopping back and forth from teaching the boy to ski vs ride. I think he only wants to ride because that's what I do, and his uncle, but we both grew up skiing, so when we take him, we could easily swap back (my bro still skis about a 1/4 of his days anyway-- I'd probably pick up some snowblades or something just to teach the boy on). I think if we were modelling skiing, he'd be just as psyched, and I think he might have an easier time of it... |
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board_to_death
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Posted: Feb/09/2009 at 12:33am |
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my assessment was both physical and psychological ... in skiing he hadn't gotten the general concept of independent leg weighting, but most of all, he knows I ride and he has never asked.
In your case, I am 50-50 ... but why don't you rent either way ... or find some really cheap (but real snowboarding gear) ... either skiing or riding is going to be an investment. For me, I just go with what the kid wants to do ... I think you create less issues that way in the future, but that's just me.
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SunFish
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Posted: Apr/21/2009 at 11:51pm |
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I met a 5 yr old who was already in the half-pipe on skis. Try your kid on the Flow kid bindings that he can get in and out of easy.
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shortbrat81
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Posted: May/01/2009 at 4:52pm |
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I'm going through the same thing for next season! My son just turned 3. Hes already an adrenaline junking and always asks when he can go boarding w/me. I can't wait to get him on a board but will probably start him on a set of ski's. I just don't think I will be able to find a small enough board & boots for him.
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spenser
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Posted: May/01/2009 at 6:01pm |
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theres no reason a kid that young cant snowboard first. lame idea.. and i dont even know where it comes from, really. i mean, at least not from a realistic idea.
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scottlui
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Posted: May/02/2009 at 2:16am |
He'll be ready when next season comes around... At 3 and a half he'll probably really love learning everything in general plus he'll still be fearless, so he'll probably learn pretty fast.
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Eastcoastryder
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Posted: May/02/2009 at 7:46pm |
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Well on my first or second day snowboarding I got on a 3 person lift with a guy and his son. The kid looked soo little but had a sweet board and i asked the guy how old he was and i believe he said 3 or 3.5 but i dont remember. That little kid made my self confidence go wayyy down. Even though his dad held him up while they got off the lift that kid really shreded. I mean he just bombed strait down the hill with no fear and didnt even fall. So if your son really wants to try, just let him rent a couple of times and see. the worst thing that can happen is that after a day or two he dosent want to do it anymore, no bigee, he can try again in another year. Just have fun |
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sullyj42
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Posted: May/16/2009 at 6:10pm |
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teach him in your backyard just holding his hands or whatever and walking with him down the hill until he gets his turns down then...
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Posted: Jun/03/2009 at 2:59pm |
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I don't know about a good way of going about teaching him, but as long as you try I'm sure he'll get it. Younger kids have no fear and pick up on things quick. Well at least the kids I know!
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Posted: Jun/29/2009 at 10:48pm |
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if you try and teach him make sure you surrond him with patience and encourgment.cause if he hates it he may never wanna try agian...you sound like a good guy and isnt going to be a crazy make my kid famous dad....but just make sure he has fun...and i saw a 3yr. old on skis and she had the little bar in between her skis so they dont collide and cross over that might be smart...dont recomend those leashes deffinalty dangerous....let me no how it goes
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SunFish
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Posted: Jun/30/2009 at 5:42pm |
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Last week at Mt Hood I saw what looked like about a 2 yr old girl in the beginner area, and her parents were just pushing her down a very slight slope on a board with no bindings. She seemed to be having fun and maintaining balance on it. Go on Ebay now that it's summer and look for a cheap used kids board.
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dxiver
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Posted: Jul/01/2009 at 10:59pm |
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Maybe you should try teach him your self, in the back yard?
Buy a cheap skate board and remove the trucks and pull him. Maybe get some shoelaces to tie him in, the balance issue would probably be the biggest worry for someone his age. |
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boardingchick
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Posted: Jul/04/2009 at 8:15am |
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I wish I had a dad who could teach me boarding that young. It is much easier to teach a younger kid to board because they're smaller and therefore closer to the ground so that fall hurts less and it's easier to balance. They also have a higher patience and energy level. If you start teaching at a young age, they'll have more time to progress and they'll absorb more. The key is to be patient with them and to hold onto them showing them how it should feel like when you're doing that move correctly. So guide him through the steps and also give lots of demonstrations because kids are more visual. A thing that really helped me teach was using my hands as my feet. My sister would show me how my feet should tilt when I stop or turn on the board using her hands.
Do not start with the clip ons, they wrecked me up really bad because the support isn't as good as the bindings. I just got a new board with bindings and they have a much better feel to them. I hope he learns fast! Good luck teaching :) |
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Posted: Sep/02/2009 at 11:45am |
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I swear, I have replied to this thread a long time ago.
But regarding the instructor's suggesting that you should let your son try skiing. Honestly, you should allow him to try it out. In the end, it's really about what they want. Skiing is a lot easier IMO because it is a natural position squared up and face to the direction you're going. Snowboarding is a little tougher because you're going down the hill sideways. I patiently instructed my nephews (5 & 7) last season, but I've only take the 7 year old twice and the 5 year old once. It definitely take a lot of patients and a lot of time, so don't expect to be riding if you take little ones, at least until they start to shred.
Fortunately, I will have opportunties to ride on the weekdays this coming season, so i will be able to bring them up the slopes and provide them thorough instructions without being deprived of riding time.
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Posted: Sep/03/2009 at 9:49pm |
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from a straight developmental psychology standpoint, children should not be put into sports before age 4 ~ there's a ton of research out there... but some studies say introduction to sport is good around 4 but it's best to hold out on teaching anything complicated technically until 5or6 (varies per child developmentally).
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Posted: Sep/04/2009 at 1:58pm |
That makes no sense to me. It is thinking like thins that helps create the fatass culture we live in. Kids today are too coddled all strapped up in their strollers. Kids need to be toughened up. The Shaolin Monks consider a 5-6 year old kid over-the-hill in regards to learning Shaolin Kung Fu. |
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Posted: Sep/05/2009 at 8:08pm |
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my old man set me up on a board when i was 4 1/2 years old.
i'm really thankful i got introduced to the sport that early. i f i were id let him shred this winter
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Posted: Sep/07/2009 at 1:29pm |
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I was first on skis before I was even 3 years old so you can totally get kids up, it just depends on the kid. I listened well and wasn't scared so I was pretty easy too teach according to my dad. We started in our backyard on a little hill and then to a local place for lessons on saturdays.
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jeff.barrett
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Posted: Sep/07/2009 at 7:14pm |
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Not sure if this helps anyone else or not - we started my son off last winter (at 3 years of age) by having him stand on a sled / toboggan as we pulled him around. This helped us determine his stance and get him used to the idea of balancing himself on a moving object.
Then, this summer, he's been rockin' a skateboard by just standing on it and even getting the odd push on it. He can even kinda do a tail slide. Now, I have him practicing in our living room, we have laminate floors and I throw down a dry towel. I have him run at the towel and hop on - causing him to slide across the floor in stance on the towel. I also pull him around the house on the towel for added balance practice. He turns 4 at the end of this month. I bought him a Burton Chopper 100 to rock this winter. It's going to be his first season on the board. We're going to start in the backyard and work our way to a few small hills, then the slopes. I'm totally looking forward to it!! |
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powpowpirate
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Posted: Sep/12/2009 at 3:52am |
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kids should be active!!! It's just what the brain can handle as far as technical stuff goes that I was talking about. Developmental psych... American kids are too idle, that's an entirely different conversation to be had (and if you want to read my research papers on obesity in youth, just PM me hahaha)
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