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    Posted: Dec/23/2008 at 7:52pm
how do i spin off a jump?

i know i have to come off the jump carving or heelside, followed by an ollie. but exactly at what point do i spin my shoulders?

im just not able to get the entire process right... any tips?

**oops i accidentally posted in gear talk section, if any mods could move this thread that would be cool.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/23/2008 at 8:02pm
Look over your shoulder and your body will follow. Try it on a Trampoline first if you can.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/23/2008 at 8:14pm
wish i had one.

do i look over right before the ollie?

basically start spinning right before i get air?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/23/2008 at 11:29pm
approach the lip with your knees bent.  I like back side when I used to do'em so I take off carving toe-side.  as you are about to leave the lip stand up to pop off (ollie) stick your chin into your back shoulder and keep it there until you start to see the landing when you're coming around (270) and once you see it you should be able to get around all the way and stick your landing.  key is keeping your chin tucked until you can spot your landing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/24/2008 at 7:12am
turning your head is probably more important than turning your shoulders.  if you concentrate on turning your shoulders and not your head, you wont be spinning anywhere.  head first, the rest will follow. and dont put too much weight on toeside or heelside.  youll fly off axis.

i also found whipping my arms around helped me complete the spins. 

you should start with 180s.  i learned bs 180s first...keep your weight centered on the board...i shift my weight slightly to my tail.  ill approach the lip on my toes.  i like to keep my eyes on my back foot as i launch off the lip.  youll need to be good with riding switch backwards with speed since thats how you'll land.  make sure you ride away clean.  revert landings arent clean.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/24/2008 at 2:58pm
Originally posted by percept

turning your head is probably more important than turning your shoulders.  if you concentrate on turning your shoulders and not your head, you wont be spinning anywhere.  head first, the rest will follow. and dont put too much weight on toeside or heelside.  youll fly off axis.

i also found whipping my arms around helped me complete the spins. 

you should start with 180s.  i learned bs 180s first...keep your weight centered on the board...i shift my weight slightly to my tail.  ill approach the lip on my toes.  i like to keep my eyes on my back foot as i launch off the lip.  youll need to be good with riding switch backwards with speed since thats how you'll land.  make sure you ride away clean.  revert landings arent clean.
 
One of the biggest mistakes you can make is carving too hard off a jump.  Before you even get to the tranny (if you are going to spin backside) turn from a heelside carve into a LIGHT toeside carve as you ride up the jump.  WITH AN EMPHASIS ON LIGHT.  You pop of your toes but that doesn't mean you need to be railing a hard carve.  Even though you are heading up the jump in a light toeside carve and will be popping off your toes, you want to make sure you are centered over your board, this will prevent you from spinning off axis.   Keep you knees nice and bent as you ride up the jump (this will help you to stay centered over your board and aid with your balance as you leave the jump), then as you approach the lip start your rotation with your head and upper body, while popping off your toes.  Suck those legs up and enjoy.   You need to start the rotation before you have left the jump and are in the air, so that you have something to push off of. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/24/2008 at 5:43pm
Huck it. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/24/2008 at 5:52pm
thanks a lot for the tips guys, ill make sure to try these next time i go.

i just was never able to get the spin motion going because i kept my head straight. its hard to tell on snowboarding videos that they actually move their heads, i only noticed the shoulders.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/25/2008 at 3:55am
its hard to tell on vids cuz they are pros and have fine tuned their spin and trick arsenal.  Some don't have to look quite so hard to initiate a spin.  

Like i said, they are pros, never a good place to look for trying to learn tricks.    Unless it is an instructional video they are in, kinda like 20 Tricks (or whatever it is called).   Even then, In my opinion, it is better to learn a new trick from somebody that already does them confidently and consistently
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/25/2008 at 7:36am
^^ very good point
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/25/2008 at 8:14am
lots of times you can even find trick tips on youtube or similar sites, but finding somebody to teach you in person is your best bet
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/25/2008 at 8:15am
no the only problem is finding somebody to teach me a triple cork 1800
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/25/2008 at 12:39pm
lol i have no clue what that is but... good luck!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/25/2008 at 2:40pm
its a virtually impossible trick for todays standards unless you jump outta an airplane doing it

It was supposed to be a joke
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/25/2008 at 3:17pm
carve at the top of the jump, and throw your shoulders(that are wound up) as your leaving the jump


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Great vid, Ride.
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Yeah, I like it.  It helped me learn them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/27/2008 at 12:30am
thanks for all of you that helped out. i took all of your advices into much consideration and watched the video multiple times before riding.

I ended up pulling it off after 3 attempts...

I was doing frontside 180s, next time i go im gonna try back side.

again, thanks a lot
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/03/2009 at 9:20pm
for some reason i think backsides are easier for me, but thats just me

glad to hear you got it down, keep up the good workWink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/03/2009 at 9:29pm
I spin frontside some much easier than back. I can put down 3s frontside and have trouble 1s backside 
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Originally posted by Eastcoast27

Originally posted by percept

turning your head is probably more important than turning your shoulders.  if you concentrate on turning your shoulders and not your head, you wont be spinning anywhere.  head first, the rest will follow. and dont put too much weight on toeside or heelside.  youll fly off axis.

i also found whipping my arms around helped me complete the spins. 

you should start with 180s.  i learned bs 180s first...keep your weight centered on the board...i shift my weight slightly to my tail.  ill approach the lip on my toes.  i like to keep my eyes on my back foot as i launch off the lip.  youll need to be good with riding switch backwards with speed since thats how you'll land.  make sure you ride away clean.  revert landings arent clean.
 
One of the biggest mistakes you can make is carving too hard off a jump.  Before you even get to the tranny (if you are going to spin backside) turn from a heelside carve into a LIGHT toeside carve as you ride up the jump.  WITH AN EMPHASIS ON LIGHT.  You pop of your toes but that doesn't mean you need to be railing a hard carve.  Even though you are heading up the jump in a light toeside carve and will be popping off your toes, you want to make sure you are centered over your board, this will prevent you from spinning off axis.   Keep you knees nice and bent as you ride up the jump (this will help you to stay centered over your board and aid with your balance as you leave the jump), then as you approach the lip start your rotation with your head and upper body, while popping off your toes.  Suck those legs up and enjoy.   You need to start the rotation before you have left the jump and are in the air, so that you have something to push off of. 
 
 
This is pretty much it.  A lot of the same things I was taught when I started spinning about 5 years ago.  Nothing has really changed, because it works.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2009 at 3:02am
Ride, that's a great video.
 
I too find backside to be much easier. So far, I have only done 3s and 5s off of small kickers... haven't fully gotten them figured out on tables. Watching that video helped a lot to distinguish my mistakes. I'm going up today; I'll definitely be trying this out.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2009 at 6:37pm
i always have a problem moving my body in synch with my board.
 
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