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  Quote kushman182 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Review Spam
    Posted: Dec/17/2012 at 4:45am
Just posted 4 or 5 reviews of some t-shirts. They leave something to be desired...
 
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  Quote ctoma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/17/2012 at 5:50am
His review is:  "I want these!!!!!!!!!"?  Seriously?

http://www.trusnow.com/profile.asp?PF=147515

Bindings and helmet review are lacking.

http://www.trusnow.com/profile.asp?PF=359375

Pants review is severely lacking.

http://www.trusnow.com/profile.asp?PF=138177
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  Quote Ryanpmajor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/17/2012 at 8:06am
Whenever i post a review, it gets marked as spam. why is that?
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  Quote jhoang6 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/17/2012 at 8:21am
Originally posted by Ryanpmajor

Whenever i post a review, it gets marked as spam. why is that?
I can't even see your posted reviews through your profile. But chances are your reviews are lacking useful information to help potential buyers, premature reviews. scroll back a page to look what some of the posts say about reviews.
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  Quote derbytownjoe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/17/2012 at 8:57am
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Whenever i post a review, it gets marked as spam. why is that?

because they contain(ed) no REAL information.....

maybe you should read the "Writing Quality Reviews!!" thread before proceeding further....
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  Quote ctoma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/18/2012 at 8:16am
C'mon, try to do better....


I wish everyone would give this a once-over before attempting to write a review (as derby has mentioned above and posted the same link):

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  Quote MATTSTERBATOR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/19/2012 at 11:59pm
I think that I had a couple of reviews that were flagged  quite a while back, but they were legit reviews of the products that I had, one was about a pair of Burton leather gore gloves (Black) that bled onto my white jacket, anyway I believe I had some spelling mistakes in the review & was unfairly flagged. I think the reviews need to be looked at closely before being flagged.  What do you think?
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  Quote fj5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/20/2012 at 12:43am
Originally posted by MATTSTERBATOR

I think that I had a couple of reviews that were flagged  quite a while back, but they were legit reviews of the products that I had, one was about a pair of Burton leather gore gloves (Black) that bled onto my white jacket, anyway I believe I had some spelling mistakes in the review & was unfairly flagged. I think the reviews need to be looked at closely before being flagged.  What do you think?

I took a look at your reviews, even the one you brought up above.  As mentioned by ctoma and derby, read the thread regarding how to write proper product reviews.  Your spammed reviews as well as many of your currently rewarded reviews leave much to be desired.  1-2 liners are insufficient.  You need to describe in better detail your experiences and objective opinions about the product so that an uninformed shopper can make an educated decision before making the purchase.  

Take a look at Ippolite's reviews if you'd like some great examples:


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As for above, I don't see how this is a hypothetical question.
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  Quote derbytownjoe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/20/2012 at 12:47am
while the glove review might've been legit.... it was still lacking in info....
all it said was that the gloves were awesome and that the color bled.....

now, do you really reel like that is a quality review????

personally i dont, and therefore I dont see how/why it should be unflagged....


oh and there are also SEVERAL of your other reviews that are quite questionable as well.... Im surprised that they havent also been flagged...
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  Quote ippollite Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/20/2012 at 2:07am
dude, your reviews are rather terrible im afraid. We really dont need any more poor reviews. Good luck getting them reinstated, i can find another five or so id flag right after. Ill let you keep those five though because it seems mean to knack you for all of them after youve been locked out. But come on? Seriously?  Confused

PS. Im not trying to single you out, but no one gets sympathy for reviews. Either do them properly or dont bother. 
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  Quote derbytownjoe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/20/2012 at 2:20am
See..... at least im not the only one that thought so.....

I said that they were questionable.... but in all reality they are really quite poorly written!
the biggest problem though is that they dont contain any valid, useful info.

I also think that you'll have a fairly tough time getting them unflagged. 
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  Quote ctoma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/20/2012 at 6:29am
Pretty shabby reviews but the hoodie review is 100% crap and a blatant point-grab:

http://www.trusnow.com/profile_reviews.asp?pf=61848
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  Quote JDiggidy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/20/2012 at 6:48am
^^ The three reviews for stickers were legit. Wacko
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  Quote batmanwest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/20/2012 at 7:04am
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^^ The three reviews for stickers were legit. Wacko


Soo legit. Wow...there isn't a single review there that should stay. I am pretty sure my 8 year old niece could write better than that. The point system for reviews really needs to be changed....Ouch
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  Quote fj5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/20/2012 at 7:18am
Originally posted by batmanwest

Originally posted by JDiggidy

^^ The three reviews for stickers were legit. Wacko


Soo legit. Wow...there isn't a single review there that should stay. I am pretty sure my 8 year old niece could write better than that. The point system for reviews really needs to be changed....Ouch

The dude has 4 identical sticker reviews (copy paste).  I "No"-ed and flagged them all, including the hoodie review.  I'm not going to touch the 2008 one since that was before the points and criteria were made.
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  Quote fj5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/20/2012 at 7:22am
FYI

JUST so everyone knows, once you flag a review as spam, you can no longer add to it's tally of "No's"... I tested this last night and verified this happens.
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  Quote fj5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/22/2012 at 8:57am
Many of his brand reviews lack any depth:

90 brand reviews... 450 pts... 

Double post on Randomness thread:

Appears to be another up and coming 5 and out.

Really gunning for that Board Member level.
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  Quote Angry Midget Yo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/22/2012 at 9:34am
There is too much abuse in the brand section because it goes undetected by users so you can't flag it in the newsfeed until you click on their profile to see the break down of their points.  
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  Quote derbytownjoe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/22/2012 at 9:56am
Originally posted by Angry Midget Yo

There is too much abuse in the brand section because it goes undetected by users so you can't flag it in the newsfeed until you click on their profile to see the break down of their points.  

we know this... it sucks....
every now and again, some of us go on hunting parties through the brand reviews.... but its just such a PITA and it takes forever....
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  Quote fj5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/22/2012 at 11:17am
Originally posted by derbytownjoe

Originally posted by Angry Midget Yo

There is too much abuse in the brand section because it goes undetected by users so you can't flag it in the newsfeed until you click on their profile to see the break down of their points.  

we know this... it sucks....
every now and again, some of us go on hunting parties through the brand reviews.... but its just such a PITA and it takes forever....

So Derbs, when I find someone like above with a bunch of spam reviews, you have to go to each brand and find his review to flag it?  There's no way you can do it from his profile?
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  Quote derbytownjoe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/24/2012 at 1:39am
Originally posted by fj5

Originally posted by derbytownjoe

Originally posted by Angry Midget Yo

There is too much abuse in the brand section because it goes undetected by users so you can't flag it in the newsfeed until you click on their profile to see the break down of their points.  

we know this... it sucks....
every now and again, some of us go on hunting parties through the brand reviews.... but its just such a PITA and it takes forever....

So Derbs, when I find someone like above with a bunch of spam reviews, you have to go to each brand and find his review to flag it?  There's no way you can do it from his profile?

this is correct.....
you have to go through each brand to search for each person's "one" review......

thats why its a PITA
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  Quote fj5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/25/2012 at 8:25am
Originally posted by derbytownjoe

Originally posted by fj5

Originally posted by derbytownjoe

Originally posted by Angry Midget Yo

There is too much abuse in the brand section because it goes undetected by users so you can't flag it in the newsfeed until you click on their profile to see the break down of their points.  

we know this... it sucks....
every now and again, some of us go on hunting parties through the brand reviews.... but its just such a PITA and it takes forever....

So Derbs, when I find someone like above with a bunch of spam reviews, you have to go to each brand and find his review to flag it?  There's no way you can do it from his profile?

this is correct.....
you have to go through each brand to search for each person's "one" review......

thats why its a PITA

Is there any way you or Ipps can grant me just that "power"?  I'll gladly do it if that helps you guys out.
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  Quote derbytownjoe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/25/2012 at 1:19pm
*we dont even have the powers...... all we can do is flag posts or reviews......


dont ask.... as weve been trying fo a cpl years now to get our own powers.....



it sux.... but those of us that are around the most, can only do the least......
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  Quote fj5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/25/2012 at 2:34pm
Yeah, that's what I meant, just so I can flag them once and that's enough to take it down, rather than my current 1/5 flag.  But I get you, that's too bad.  Those of us will do what we can to help as well.

I look at it like this:
- Cops = all the full power mods (eg. gsrrr)
- Neighbourhood Watch = unofficial expert members (eg. ippo, derby)
- Hall Monitors = regulars (eg. ctoma, chillwill, fj5)
- Delinquents = bad regulars (eg. snowboardinrox357, snowflakez)

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  Quote chillwill Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/27/2012 at 4:39am
ctoma, you hit the holiday spam mother load!

Merry Christmas! Here's some terrible reviews for your website! Clap
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  Quote ctoma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/27/2012 at 5:17am
Originally posted by chillwill

ctoma, you hit the holiday spam mother load!

Merry Christmas! Here's some terrible reviews for your website! Clap

And someone hit most of those entries with the spam-hammer already!  That was quick!

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  Quote derbytownjoe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/29/2012 at 7:40am
Originally posted by ctoma

Spam from another country:



its the same cheap chinese spam... just spun through google translate into german....

the german doesnt even really make all that much sense....
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  Quote fj5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/01/2013 at 8:35pm
Tsk tsk kikko... 630 pts from poor (many empty) brand reviews, AFTER we already caught all those others.


I think she did it to break the goggle level threshold, I hope we're not too late.  I started to flag.
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  Quote fj5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/01/2013 at 9:51pm
Where the hell are all these spammers coming from?  Wtf!?

All forum posts.
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  Quote chillwill Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/02/2013 at 9:40am
Hmm, normally they post their spam late at night.....Daytime for them.

http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21321&PID=1222671#1222671

I would imagine these guys are in India or China.  Probably China.  Knock-off capital of the world.


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  Quote fj5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/02/2013 at 9:46am
Originally posted by chillwill

Hmm, normally they post their spam late at night.....Daytime for them.

http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21321&PID=1222671#1222671

I would imagine these guys are in India or China.  Probably China.  Knock-off capital of the world.


Yeah, just saw that guy's same posts in multiple threads.  Here's the direct link to the profile just in case more people reply to the funny pictures thread.

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  Quote CassinoNorth Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/03/2013 at 3:40pm
She just got her free goggles by empty brand reviews.

http://www.trusnow.com/profile_reviews.asp?PF=221428&view=brandreviews

EDIT: seems she was already caught.
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^ WOW, double offender... I can't believe that, how was she able to post more brand reviews after reaching the spam limit?  That's a bad bug indeed.  

Does she actually get a second coupon code for breaking the 1500 point level again?
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  Quote derbytownjoe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/03/2013 at 10:12pm
really..... wtf......
well i guess I(we'll) have to wait until someone who can do something about it comes online....

i really done feel like tracking down 100+ BRs
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  Quote gsrrr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/04/2013 at 12:01am
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^ WOW, double offender... I can't believe that, how was she able to post more brand reviews after reaching the spam limit?  That's a bad bug indeed.  

Does she actually get a second coupon code for breaking the 1500 point level again?

No they won't get the code again.
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  Quote derbytownjoe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/04/2013 at 12:08am
Originally posted by gsrrr

Originally posted by fj5


^ WOW, double offender... I can't believe that, how was she able to post more brand reviews after reaching the spam limit?  That's a bad bug indeed.  

Does she actually get a second coupon code for breaking the 1500 point level again?

No they won't get the code again.

at least they shouldnt.... 

ok, so i gave in and have been chipping away/hunting down all her BRs..... Dead
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  Quote return2heaven Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/04/2013 at 4:30am
Ok so she does a ton of bs brand reviews, someone takes the time to flag her so she is 10/10
Spam reviews... YET she is STILL able to post a gazillion more bs brand reviews??? Sounds like
Flagging stuff is a colossal waste of time... Im done with this, seriously whats the point?
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  Quote batmanwest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/04/2013 at 5:42am
Originally posted by return2heaven

Ok so she does a ton of bs brand reviews, someone takes the time to flag her so she is 10/10
Spam reviews... YET she is STILL able to post a gazillion more bs brand reviews??? Sounds like
Flagging stuff is a colossal waste of time... Im done with this, seriously whats the point?


 
Brand reviews are the problem. Always have been the problem IMO. Too hard to detect, too hard to get rid of the bs BR's, and a perfect breeding ground for point "whoring". Idea? Blast down the entire brand review system. Get rid of it all together. From comments of mods/expert members it seems it might be easier to have a programmer just remove BR's all together from the site LOL

EDIT: Well, it looks like DTJ (and maybe others?) have done a fantastic job with stripping her of BR points. 519 review points taken away, and for that I commend all of you that still come on here and give a shit. But looking at her profile, it seems yesterday she did at least 5 BR's. Are BR's not linked to the review spam count? Wouldn't it be easier to just delete that account? It is obvious that she is just here for points and is doing a fantastic job at exploiting the point system. Ultimately troutdoors has the right to do what they like with any profile. So....just delete the user profile instead of having expert members and mods waste loads of time (from the sound of it) singling out each and every BR. Although, I guess the real problem is the lack of people that actually spend time here that have that kind of power, eh? Bleh.
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  Quote derbytownjoe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/04/2013 at 5:54am
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Ok so she does a ton of bs brand reviews, someone takes the time to flag her so she is 10/10
Spam reviews... YET she is STILL able to post a gazillion more bs brand reviews??? Sounds like
Flagging stuff is a colossal waste of time... Im done with this, seriously whats the point?


 
Brand reviews are the problem. Always have been the problem IMO. Too hard to detect, too hard to get rid of the bs BR's, and a perfect breeding ground for point "whoring". Idea? Blast down the entire brand review system. Get rid of it all together. From comments of mods/expert members it seems it might be easier to have a programmer just remove BR's all together from the site LOL

or just close the loophole of being able to still do BRs even after having 10/10 flags......
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  Quote fj5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/04/2013 at 7:29am
^ Yeah, I think DTJ's recommendation would be more fair to those who actually took their time to write meaningful brand reviews.

I found out a relatively faster way to flag brand reviews, FWIW.  Have two tabs open.  First tab has all the brand reviews listed for the offender.  Second tab you use for navigating through the website.  So if he/she has a bs brand review for Merrell... instead of having to find the brand in the various categories, I just type Merrell in the search bar.  I click on the first Merrell product that comes up.  At the top left of the page, you'll see:

Home > All Shoes > Merrell > Merrell Jungle Moc Nubuck Shoes Men's

I then click on "Merrell" just before the actual product and that brings me to the brand review page for Merrell.  Then you find her review and flag it.  It's still a bit cumbersome, but at least you don't have to hunt for brands through the brands tab.  I was able to flag a lot faster this way.

I PM'ed her to ask her why she would so it again after we already caught her the first time.  We'll see how she responds.


EDIT:  OMG, she's back up again to 400 points from brand reviews!  3 strikes and you're out, that deserves a ban from the community, in my opinion.
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EDIT:  OMG, she's back up again to 400 points from brand reviews!  3 strikes and you're out, that deserves a ban from the community, in my opinion.

shes not back up 400.... i just didnt get all of em this morning...

and as far as having multiple tabs open.... yea i know that one...
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  Quote ippollite Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/04/2013 at 2:20pm
Originally posted by fj5

EDIT:  OMG, she's back up again to 400 points from brand reviews!  3 strikes and you're out, that deserves a ban from the community, in my opinion.

Im fairly sure shell not only be banned, but also lose her coupons. Were this dual exploit allowed to stand (for there are two, but we always kept the second one super hush-hush :)), then the company is going to run out of goggles. :) 


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Seems sad that there seems to be more posts about spam then about snowboarding.
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