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    Posted: Apr/15/2009 at 2:34pm
Hey guys,

I was wondering if any of the members here suffer from flat feet?  I have wide flat feet and am wearing burton Hails.  My feet have been killing me!! after the first 1 or two runs my fit are crazy hurting.  I believe that my boots fit fine, it's probably due to my flat footedness.   I was contemplating buying a insole for my boot.  Does anybody have experience with the Black Superfeet insoles?  Or could recommend another cheap insole?  Thanks guys!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/15/2009 at 2:55pm
Have you tried heat molding boots? I think they are the best for flat feet. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/15/2009 at 2:55pm

A lot of insoles have money-back guarantees.  Superfeet is 60 days, SOLE has one (can't remember the exact length), A-line is 30 days, etc.  Just pick up a pair and see if they help. 

I'd probably go with Superfeet Blues.  Get a pair locally so you can return them easily if they don't work out.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/15/2009 at 3:12pm
My boots have the heat lining in it.... not sure how to heat mold the boots though.  I bought them from SS so not sure if i bring the hails to the store that somebody will mold them for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/15/2009 at 3:16pm

Most shops I've been to are pretty chill about that sort of thing, long as there isn't a big rush of paying customers around.  Try to buy something to help them out, though.

However, I don't think heat molding will do squat if your problem is flat feet.  It's not going to change the way your foot is being supported.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/15/2009 at 4:54pm
I pretty flat feet and i have the Burton Serow.  I have been fortunate enough to not have problems as of yet.  I think the best thing to do is to get really good, supportive insoles.  Every time i have issues with my sneakers that's what I do.  Problem solved.  Give it a try.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/15/2009 at 4:58pm
heat molding isnt going to help the soles of your feet.

first, make sure you know how to fit a snowboard boot for real, then find some that fit right (especially width, since you said you have wide feet), and then get some insoles that fit with your natural arches.

foot pain can also largely come from sloppy fitting boots, since you have to use so many more of your foot muscles (especially your arches) to turn, since a sloppy boot is far less responsive.  i used to have bad foot pains on the bottom on my arches especially, until i figured out my boot situation.  100x better.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/16/2009 at 1:33pm
i usually have hurt all over my feet the first two runs. after my feet bend everything in and feet numb out and its all good to go
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/16/2009 at 1:50pm
alright imma try the superfeet today.  Please i hope this works.. thanks guys for your help, i'll let you know how it turns out.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/16/2009 at 1:57pm
yea i'm going to try superfeet next season, it's not a huge issue, it only hurts for the very first few runs but it would be nice to do in *pain free*
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/16/2009 at 4:40pm
Originally posted by Dirtydragon

alright imma try the superfeet today.  Please i hope this works.. thanks guys for your help, i'll let you know how it turns out.

Please give a review of the superfeet when you try them
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/16/2009 at 6:22pm
The green superfeet gave me some added arch support.  Before them my arches would burn for the first few runs of the day, but now it's completely gone.  I would say I have a medium sized arch.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/17/2009 at 6:00pm
I can help with this. I have very flat wide feet. (size 12s) I normally wear a custom arch support in my regular shoes. While snowboarding I use the blue superfeet insert. I started using it 2 seasons ago and it makes a considerable difference. Sometimes i will still feel pain in my feet, but not as quickly as I was before. I bought them from this website, i think i paid around 35 bucks for them.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/19/2009 at 10:17am
So guys i tried the blue superfeet this weekend.  My arches still hurt, but not to the point where I felt I had to stop mid ride due to feet pain.  I think there is a definite improvement. I might exchange for green ones to see if it gets rid of the pain all together.  I'll let you guys know my findings then.  Thanks for the input!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/19/2009 at 10:54am
greens have even more arch in them.  I tried them and they pushed the top of my foot into the tongue of the boot too much, so I had to back down to blues.  Nothing's perfect, but blues with salomon dialogues and I'm fairly content bootwise.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/19/2009 at 11:16am
Glad they're working out for you.  Don't give up on the blues so easily though, they definitely feel weird if you don't have additional support in other shoes.  Do you have custom orthodics or anything?

To find out which of the Superfeet molds suits you best, take a seat, grab some superfeet (or other insoles) and see how they match up to your arch when you're unweighted.  Orange might also be worth a look, it's in-between blue and green.  Maybe Red Hot as well, it has the same shape as orange with some additional shock absorption and insulating material for warmth.

Also, don't necessarily follow Superfeet's sizing guide, everyone's foot is different.  I'm about a size 10.5, so I should be right in Superfeet's E size (9.5 - 11), but my arch is a little long relative to foot size, so I'm better off with an F.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/22/2009 at 12:09pm
i have flat feet and my feet dont hurt when i snowboard.My feet are so flat i rotate my ankles in and walk on my arch. So idk why your feet hurt,maybe im just used to it. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/22/2009 at 12:31pm
do your boots fit you snugly? If they are loose, you might be putting unnecessary pressure on your arches. The superfeet should help, I've never used em but I've heard nothing but good things about them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/22/2009 at 12:57pm
I picked up the Burton Jeremy Jones boots and so far they're comfy for my Fred Flintstone kickers.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/22/2009 at 10:39pm
can snowboard boots be heated moulded like ski boots
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/22/2009 at 10:45pm
almost all boots have heat moldable liners these days.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/24/2009 at 9:10am
true, although it's probably still more expensive considering some lower end boots only have specific areas of the liner heat molding
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/27/2009 at 5:09pm
I have collapsed arches (flat feet) as well, pretty bad.

I used the wintergreen SuperFeet for a season and it just exacerbated the problem. I'd start to get some serious foot cramps within 15 minutes, and they'd come and go throughout the entire day.

The season after, I ditched them and went back to the "crappy" stock soles that came with my F22s and while occassionally may get a bit of cramping, is nowhere near as bad.

Odd, the inserts actually made it worse - for me.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/27/2009 at 5:18pm
thats because wintergreen superfeet are made for medium to high arches... of course they didnt work well for you with flat feet.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/28/2009 at 11:25am
I do not have flat feet, But i have burton hails and my feet ALSO hurt, but not after a couple runs. mine start to hurt after the first hour or so.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/28/2009 at 11:49am
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/28/2009 at 12:16pm
I'm in the same boat.  Super overpronated  feet.  Right foot a little flatter so its about a quarter size bigger.  I wear custom orthotics.  Was able to catch some SLX's on sale, so I'll see how they fit and feel next month when I pick them up.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/28/2009 at 9:05pm
Originally posted by spenser

thats because wintergreen superfeet are made for medium to high arches... of course they didnt work well for you with flat feet.

they were the designed for winter boots so I figured that was the best choice. the arch factor though is pretty significant.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/28/2009 at 10:48pm
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Originally posted by spenser

thats because wintergreen superfeet are made for medium to high arches... of course they didnt work well for you with flat feet.

they were the designed for winter boots so I figured that was the best choice. the arch factor though is pretty significant.

The arch factor is the most significant part.  I suspect if anything that the whole Outlast thing is really more marketing than anything substantive, since you're not really going to be losing heat through the soles of your feet.

You should be in blues, or if your feet are really flat, maybe blacks or even custom orthodics.  Salomon insoles are pretty flat, so if those work well for you, there's no way in hell you should have had a green insole.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/28/2009 at 11:02pm
i had regular greens (no outlast or anything) and i had redhots this year, with outlast and the new foil thing on the front part... didnt notice a difference at all.

arch is definitely the most important.  the whole point of insoles is to fit your feet well, so.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/29/2009 at 12:25am
go to a podiatrist and get them to have a look at your feet, if you have to get some orthodics, there the greatest investment you will make for everything.
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