Two wheels discussion thread! (Motorcycles only!)

Haha, I know Geo' is going to take this as an opportunity to thread jack me back, but thats ok.

Figure we have enough MotoGP and WSBK fans, as well as guys who are about to hit riding season that we might as well start discussions here.  Its that time of year when my boards go away and I start riding again.  Looking forward to a track day on May 20th at PIR, I know Bru' should have a Lee Parks class coming up soon as well.

Post up your scoots, ride spots or race news!

Oh, and to start off, did anyone see this absolute crap about GP2's new engine rule for 2010?

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2009/05/honda-named-official-engine-su.html

So all the manufactures will be required to use a spec Honda engine?  How much you want to bet everyone pulls out of that pretty fast, no way Yamaha is going to make a race machine with a Honda engine in it.  Aprilia, ktm?  No way.

I honestly think GP's are in for a world of hurt in the coming years and WSBK and WSST are going to reigh supreme.

i guess it will prove who the better rider is?

definitely won't survive. AMA will probably be more exciting than GP2. 

Originally posted by esy.iam definitely won't survive. AMA will probably be more exciting than GP2.

I have to admit, outside of the debacle with the Buel's being able to run twice the engine, chassis changes, suspension changes and damn near whatever they want else, AMA Supersport has kicked ass this year, the rest of the 600's are really tight and the racing is pretty good.

Mladden is running away with Superbike, that guy could probably win on 250, he was the only guy that gave Spies fits last year, now there is nothing left for him to compete with.  I bet he goes undefeated this season.  I like how they wouldn't let him run the 09 bike at Daytona (AMA said it was not homogolated which is total BS) so they took an 08 off the showroom floor, bolted on some goodies and still won, and won the next 4 races on it (you can buy it now, its up for sale since they are allowed to use the 09 now).

Next year is going to be crazy in AMA though.  They basically have to run near production spec these days, but the Aprilia has full on chassis changes stock which they will be allowed to race with.  Look out for the V4 monster! 

I don't follow motorcycle racing on tv, but I have had my moto out 4 times so far this year and am looking forward to warmer weather.

nice...sounds good to me. you better get it.k?:)

I am thinking of an 06 R6 or like an 05 636...I have been searching but all the ones currently are beat and trashed

joe

So they're essentially replicating the Red Bull Rookies cup.

Originally posted by grantmm So they're essentially replicating the Red Bull Rookies cup.

Yeah, dumbest thing ever.  I didn't mind when the idea was spec requirements and limited costs, but one make engines is bunk.  If anything, use someone like Rotax for the engine that is not loyal to any one brand. 

2 so I can still use the rest of my hand to blip the throttle.

I brake with 2.  My fingers are really long and strong.  I have actually locked up the front under braking before and lived to tell about it.  As stated in another post, I basically don't use the rear brake ever.  Sometimes I brake with 4 if its the end of a long straight with a 4 gear kickdown like at PIR into a 35 mph turn, for some reason I match rev's better that way, but most of the time I use 2.

I know the actual sequence of cornering pretty well, its just that what you think you are doing vs what you are actually doing are two different things.  The one thing I excel at is late apexing, for some reason I have no problems at all trusting the front end and flinging the bike onto its side as hard as possible and gassing the crap out of it.  Also due to the fact that my bike is sprung for a 125 pound midget, my wheelbase being so short, and me being so tall, I'm pretty used to the back end sliding around under braking and actually kind of enjoy it.

But I don't get a good enough grip with my knee's and weight falls on my wrists, I need to get some stompgrip or something, and of course its a technique thing.  Just need to find that groove in the tank that works best.  Fortunately I kicked my crossed up riding habit and my head and shoulders are appropriately low and forward.  I just want to get more flexible and open my hips to the corner better.

Part of it is the bike is so small as well, tougher for me to climb around on it sometimes. 

yeah they do....I almost moved there 2 years ago. To cascade station or nyberg wood or whatever that place is called. They have a great Ducati club up there too...

joe

www.ducatipacifica.com

check it out

joe

I need to get one of these



Then I need to find out how to get that thing they call "Skill", does anyone know where I can buy it? 

Are you serious about the deposit on that bike, Shaka?

dont blame u there Shaka, very sexy bike.

Those bikes are pretty sweet, I've always wanted to try one.

I am looking at an 03 600rr this weekend. I am torn...I wanna wait till winter this coming year and get an 06 r6 or something newer than 03...but its a good deal. $5000...said he would do $4500.

joe

If you are going to go Honda, grow a pair and buy this for the same price

http://denver.craigslist.org/mcy/1153147953.html

I even saw a 2003 R1 with low miles on it for that much.  Just don't buy that damn Honda.

Have I mentioned I hate that year Honda?  I seriously don't know how it won all those bike of the year award the year it came out.  Yes the chassis is amazing.  But the seat is like a damn 2x4 and the engine blows.  I would say to find an older R6 if Bru' didn't already have one and you two would look really cute together.  I would honestly rather have a 2004 GSXR600 and I hate Gixxer's (with the exception of the GSXR 750 which is truly iconic for a reason), find a 2002 750 if you can, should be the same price.

ZX6RR 5300 willing to negotiate, thats the one with the slipper clutch and the 599cc engine and a closer ratio transmission if i remember right. 

http://denver.craigslist.org/mcy/1154270989.html

Just show up and start talking for a few hours about your GF, wedding rings, and wedding ideas and I'm sure he will let it go for 3 grand. 

Originally posted by BRUIZZA looks like wed-fri are going to be riding days for me.  Weather is supposed to be beautiful!!!

So what day you gonna let me take it for a spin??? Don't worry, I have experience!

Originally posted by Geology Rocks The RR has 2000 miles and is pristine.:)...seriously...lol I talked to the guy with the ZX6R...he trashed the crap out of that bike. his other postings were him doing wheelies and crap. how did you find the zx6rr...thats nice...gonna call him joe

I don't care if it has 2,000 miles on it, in fact, I bet thats worse.  That means in the past 6 years, its probably only had two oil changes.  I would rather have something thats got some miles on it and service records.  Especially if its a Honda.

Not to mention, have you ridden one?  Funkiest powerband ever.  Moves away from the line just fine, then there is a HUGE massive dip until about 10k, during which time anyone on any other motorcycle and old people on bicycles will pull away from you, then it all comes back and then ends really suddenly.  Tons of over-rev, but it doesn't build anymore power after that.

I honestly think that Honda bought all the awards they won that year in magazines, that motor sucks until you do a supersport build on it and treat it more like a race motor.  Plus you are never going to get that money back you spent on it in resale down the road, at the end of the day, its another japanese rice rocket.  A Ducati or Moto Guzzi with low miles, sure, pay a premium.  But not from one of the big 4. 

I found the ZX6rr just by searching Kawasaki on Denver's craigslist.

If you do go with the Honda, get an 05, you will thank me so much for this later on.  Especially if you are coming from a 749s.  That 600rr makes the R6 feel like a Hayabusa on the streets.

Also, if this is just a track hack, then who cares about the mileage and buy something cheaper.  I can't find a single redeeming quality about that bike for that amount of money.  They make great track bikes because the engine does respond very well to some minor internal work, and the chassis responds very well to suspension mods.  But as far as a rode bike goes, the only thing they got going for them is the styling and reliability.  Unless you tell me it already has a full exhaust, power commander and re-valved suspension or something like that, buy the Kawasaki I linked you to, or man up and buy that RC51.

I want a black 636....I am hesitant with green. green is bad luck.

joe

Joe is going to end up with this bike.

Geo's new motorcycle club

Troy Bayliss to test Ducati MotoGP bike.  That is all, please carry about the Kawi talk.