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    Posted: May/07/2009 at 7:40am
Just read the article.  He is joining the test team to develop the bike and figure out why Casey Stoner is the only one that can ride it.  I honestly think he simply trusts the electronics way more than anyone else riding the Ducati does.  Look how hard he pushes the front tire, and notice he is the only guy that the majority of his crashes are front end tucks.  
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I bet Nicky really hates Honda now


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Originally posted by shakazulu12

I bet Nicky really hates Honda now


 
 
Why are you knocking on Honda's middleweight?  My 07 won the shootout in every magazine that year....  Or is it just the earlier models you're not fond of?
 
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My car has 4 wheelsLOL  Can I partake in the conversation anywaysTongue
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  Quote Shakazulu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/07/2009 at 8:23pm
Originally posted by krispysteve

Originally posted by shakazulu12

I bet Nicky really hates Honda now
 
 
Why are you knocking on Honda's middleweight?  My 07 won the shootout in every magazine that year....  Or is it just the earlier models you're not fond of?
 
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You were smart enough to wait for the latest engine.  Go ride the early one and you will hate it too.  The later one is more like a damn 750 with all the power honda gave it.  When they came out with the first version of the 600rr, it was pretty much to homogolate a new 600 for racing.  As such, there were no concessions made for street use, or even street parts really.  It doesn't do anything until you actually build the inernals a bit.

Hond realized their mistake and tried to fix it in 05, then totally junked that engine and came up with the all new one that has dominated the past couple years with all its mid-range.

Sorry if I wasn't clear on that, but its the 03-04 that I can't stand.  Great chassis, but can't make up for the engine sucking balls.  They finally gave it the engine it needed a few years later. 

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yeah, the older RRs ('03-'04) handled really well. it was very nimble and i had lots of fun throwing it around. you could hammer back the throttle like nothing. i remember teaching a lot of people how to ride on an '03 RR and telling them not to be afraid of the throttle. it wouldn't hurt them that much. but when they wanted to ride my '02 GSXR600, i told them to be careful. it had quite a bit more pull (especially since a TRE was installed on it as well).

the '05 definitely had more power. too bad we sold that to some guy for DIRT cheap. the '07s also have lots of pull, but i felt its turn-in and nimble-like feel (i.e. '03 chassis) was definitely missing.
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Isn't that pretty far from you?  The money you are going to spend on shipping it wouldn't make it worth it I would think.  Though it is a fine bike and you could probably get it for 5k.

You really love Honda's now huh?  The 05 is much better than the 03-04 though, they re-tuned the engine and give it some mid-range finally.  The chassis was always pretty good on them.
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  Quote Geology Rocks Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/08/2009 at 8:47am
honestly I hate hon-dah...but they make great reliable bikes.

not far at all...maybe 2 hours.

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Oh, two hours isn't that bad, I need to bone up on geography. 

Go for it for 5 grand.  I'm not really into the tribal thing, but since its black, you don't really notice it.  Way better than the yellow or orange ones for sure. 

When are you picking it up?
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Oh and Hon-duh isnt the only company i havent owned...

1967 bonneville Triumph
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2003 Kawasaki
2006 Yamaha R6
2005 Ducati

Honda and aprilia..lol oh and Bimota

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You need an MV
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I had a deposit on a 312R at one point...insurance $5400 for like 12 months! yeah right!

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Who the hell are you getting coverage through?  Do you have a ton of tickets or something?

I asked about insurance on the aprilia and they ran it as a 1098r just to get an idea and it was 80 bucks a month, which is almost triple what I pay on the NC35
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  Quote Geology Rocks Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/08/2009 at 10:40am
Progressive...If Iwent through statefarm is would be $12 a month. but the car is about $190 through statefarm.

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oh and nothing on the record...perfectly clean.:)

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Why was an MV so high?  They have low insurance rates.  They dont get involved with many accidents, same thing with Ducati's etc.  They are usually no more to insure than any other bike.  
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dont know why dude...i asked. maybe because when they are involve in accidents they cost more to fix. couldnt tell you....

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Strange, I have never heard an insurance quote that high for one of those, most I have ever heard was about 1200 a year.  Bikes aren't really insured for costs as much as frequency of accidents.  Expensive bikes are rarely dumped so you usually end up with lower premiums. 

Check this one out local to me

http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/mcy/1149843011.html
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exact bike I had the deposit on.:) the black and gray looks sick in person

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The pearl white is actually growing on me a ton though after seeing them both in the same showroom. 

I'll take either!  Best looking motorcycle of all time




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yup...exotic and actually somewhat reliable. not for long as Harley Davidson now owns them...:(
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yup...exotic and actually somewhat reliable. not for long as Harley Davidson now owns them...:(


I don't think that will affect MV negatively at all actually.  In fact, it will probably save that company.

MV is made up of great engineers (something harley lacked) but has no idea how to market the most awesome sportbike on the road. 

Harley can sell pieces of crap for 30 grand a pop, and knows how to market anything.  They don't want to mess with sportbikes themselves and have no intention of moving the plant or anything.  MV needed the cash (though Harley is going broke too).

In the long run, it gets us more money, better parts distribution, consistent flow of new products and designs (they have not re-designed the F4 because its so good, they simply don't have the money to) etc. 

Harley knows better than to dilute it.  Same reason why they kept Buel totally seperate and let them do their own thing. 


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Judging by the fact the majority of the posters in this thread so far are riding sportbikes, that would actually be more of an insult than anything.  
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state farm wants $21 to ensure me on the cbr600rr...not bad!
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Did you actually get a hold of the guy and make an offer?  
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Qualifying times for Monza WSBK

Interesting that Sykes is ahead of Spies this week.

1. Michel Fabrizio ITA Ducati Xerox 1098R 1min 45.447s
2. Tom Sykes GBR Yamaha WSB YZF R1 1min 45.758s
3. Noriyuki Haga JPN Ducati Xerox 1098R 1min 45.790s
4. Jonathan Rea GBR HANNspree Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR 1min 45.919s
5. Max Neukirchner GER Alstare Suzuki GSX-R 1000K9 1min 45.962s
6. Yukio Kagayama JPN Alstare Suzuki GSX-R 1000K9 1min 45.985s
7. Ben Spies USA Yamaha WSB YZF R1 1min 46.013s
8. Max Biaggi ITA Aprilia Racing RSV-4 1min 46.054s
9. Carlos Checa ESP HANNspree Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR 1min 46.140s
10. Shane Byrne GBR Sterilgarda Ducati 1098R 1min 46.164s
11. Ryuichi Kiyonari JPN Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR 1min 46.171s
12. Leon Haslam GBR Stiggy Motorsport Honda CBR1000RR 1min 46.208s
13. Jakub Smrz CZE Guandalini Racing Ducati 1098R 1min 46.363s
14. Ruben Xaus ESP BMW Motorrad S1000RR 1min 46.545s
15. Troy Corser AUS BMW Motorrad S1000RR 1min 46.565s
16. Luca Scassa ITA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R 1min 46.566s
17. Karl Muggeridge AUS Celani Suzuki GSX-R1000 1min 46.690s
18. Regis Laconi FRA DFX Corse Ducati 1098R 1min 47.078s
19. Matteo Baiocco ITA PSG-1 Kawasaki ZX-10R 1min 47.220s
20. Makoto Tamada JPN Kawasaki SRT ZX-10R 1min 47.317s
21. Tommy Hill GBR HANNspree Althea Honda CBR1000RR 1min 47.362s
22. Jake Zemke USA Stiggy Motorsport Honda CBR1000RR 1min 47.751s
23. Broc Parkes AUS Kawasaki SRT ZX-0R 1min 47.955s
24. David Salom ESP Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R 1min 47.963s
25. Shinya Nakano JPN Aprilia Racing RSV-4 1min 48.284s
26. Brendan Roberts AUS Guandalini Racing Ducati 1098R 1min 48.667s
27. David Checa ESP Yamaha France GMT 94 1min 48.920s
28. Vittorio Iannuzzo ITA SCI Honda CBR1000RR 1mins 48.981s
29. Roland Resch AUT TKR Switzerland Suzuki GSX-R1000 1min 49.119s

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Originally posted by shakazulu12

Qualifying times for Monza WSBK

Interesting that Sykes is ahead of Spies this week.

1. Michel Fabrizio ITA Ducati Xerox 1098R 1min 45.447s
2. Tom Sykes GBR Yamaha WSB YZF R1 1min 45.758s
3. Noriyuki Haga JPN Ducati Xerox 1098R 1min 45.790s
4. Jonathan Rea GBR HANNspree Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR 1min 45.919s
5. Max Neukirchner GER Alstare Suzuki GSX-R 1000K9 1min 45.962s
6. Yukio Kagayama JPN Alstare Suzuki GSX-R 1000K9 1min 45.985s
7. Ben Spies USA Yamaha WSB YZF R1 1min 46.013s
8. Max Biaggi ITA Aprilia Racing RSV-4 1min 46.054s
9. Carlos Checa ESP HANNspree Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR 1min 46.140s
10. Shane Byrne GBR Sterilgarda Ducati 1098R 1min 46.164s
11. Ryuichi Kiyonari JPN Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR 1min 46.171s
12. Leon Haslam GBR Stiggy Motorsport Honda CBR1000RR 1min 46.208s
13. Jakub Smrz CZE Guandalini Racing Ducati 1098R 1min 46.363s
14. Ruben Xaus ESP BMW Motorrad S1000RR 1min 46.545s
15. Troy Corser AUS BMW Motorrad S1000RR 1min 46.565s
16. Luca Scassa ITA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R 1min 46.566s
17. Karl Muggeridge AUS Celani Suzuki GSX-R1000 1min 46.690s
18. Regis Laconi FRA DFX Corse Ducati 1098R 1min 47.078s
19. Matteo Baiocco ITA PSG-1 Kawasaki ZX-10R 1min 47.220s
20. Makoto Tamada JPN Kawasaki SRT ZX-10R 1min 47.317s
21. Tommy Hill GBR HANNspree Althea Honda CBR1000RR 1min 47.362s
22. Jake Zemke USA Stiggy Motorsport Honda CBR1000RR 1min 47.751s
23. Broc Parkes AUS Kawasaki SRT ZX-0R 1min 47.955s
24. David Salom ESP Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R 1min 47.963s
25. Shinya Nakano JPN Aprilia Racing RSV-4 1min 48.284s
26. Brendan Roberts AUS Guandalini Racing Ducati 1098R 1min 48.667s
27. David Checa ESP Yamaha France GMT 94 1min 48.920s
28. Vittorio Iannuzzo ITA SCI Honda CBR1000RR 1mins 48.981s
29. Roland Resch AUT TKR Switzerland Suzuki GSX-R1000 1min 49.119s



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First year on a new bike that still chasing suspension setup.  He was running top three in the first four races.  For some reason he is eating up tires though.  I bet by the end of the year he is competing though.

Of course the same could be said for Ben Spies.  I actually think the R1 is still chasing setup right now as well, its just Ben is riding the living crap out of that bike right now.  The R1 is not doing well in any other racing series other than BSB.  The teams are saying there is not enough weight over the front end and the suspension settings are a bitch to figure out.  Even Sykes has not been up front until now.  Makes me respect Spies that much more for going out and competing.

Notice the CBR's are way faster this year than they were last year when they had problems with rear grip.  It takes most of the season to iron out a totally new chassis. 
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Top speeds during qualifying

FIM Superbike World Championship
Monza, Italy
May 8, 2009
Best Top Speed From Qualifying Session One (all on Pirelli tires):

Carlos Checa (Hon CBR1000RR), 201.3 mph

Max Biaggi (Apr RSV4 Factory), 199.5 mph

Neukirchner (Suz GSX-R1000 K9), 198.8 mph

Tom Sykes (Yam YZF-R1), 198.2 mph

Michael Fabrizio (Duc 1098 F09), 197.6 mph
Noriyuki Haga (Duc 1098 F09), 197.6 mph
Yukio Kagayama (Suz GSX-R1000 K9), 197.6 mph
Ben Spies (Yam YZF-R1), 197.6 mph
Ryuichi Kiyonari (Hon CBR1000RR), 197.6 mph

Shane Byrne (Duc 1098R), 197.0 mph
Troy Corser (BMW S1000 RR), 197.0 mph

Rea (Hon CBR1000RR), 196.4 mph
Ruben Xaus (BMW S1000 RR), 196.4 mph

Makoto Tamada (Kaw ZX-10R), 195.7 mph

Jakub Smrz (Duc 1098R), 195.1 mph
Tommy Hill (Hon CBR1000RR), 195.1 mph

Leon Haslam (Hon CBR1000RR), 194.5 mph
Regis Laconi (Duc 1098R), 194.5 mph
Broc Parkes (Kaw ZX-10R), 194.5 mph
Shinya Nakano (Apr RSV4 Factory), 194.5 mph

David Salom (Yam YZF-R1), 193.9 mph
Brendan Roberts (Duc 1098R), 193.9 mph
Vittorio Iannuzzo (Hon CBR1000RR), 193.9 mph

Matteo Baiocco (Kaw ZX-10R), 193.2 mph

Luca Scassa (Kaw ZX-10R), 192.6 mph
Jake Zemke (Hon CBR1000RR), 192.6 mph

Karl Muggeridge (Suz GSX-R1000 K9), 192.0 mph
David Checa (Yam YZF-R1), 192.0 mph

Roland Resch (Suz GSX-R1000 K9), 187.7 mph

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i am just looking at the fact that he went from 250 champ, to motogp to wsb....poor max...rossi rained on his parade.

I like the tribal cbr...but I dont think he will take $5000...

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Rossi really did a mind job on Biaggi, that was sad and funny at the same time.  Did the same thing to Gibernau a couple years ago as well. 

He needs to take 5k, or you can just find something else.  Tons of bikes out there, be patient. 
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correct....i will be patient..its hard. i wanna ride.lol

why does everyone use KBB? Nada is the true listing.

Nada: $5320
KBB: $6010

yeah....what people dont see is that kbb takes dealer cost, profit, and everything into account for the dealer to stay afloat.

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I wouldn't even use either right now, the economy has made both useless.  an 05 Ducati 999s has a NADA value of 15k right now, you can buy one for 9 grand, 10 tops.  
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agreed....but everyone still wants to use them as the bench mark...

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Wait until they are losing their houseWink

I once bought 20k worth of office furniture from a guy off craigslist that he had listed for 15k for 600 bucks. 
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Weather isn't looking good tomorrow for riding.  50s and raining.  Cry
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Lookin great for me!!!!!!  72 and no rain.  Trying to ride solo tomorrow, but looking online, there are a bunch of newbie rides scheduled all over.  Trying to figure out a route I want to take, thinking about hitting the Oregon coast and getting a piece of Highway 101.  
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My bro is FINALLY flying in town for some interviews tomorrow so no riding for me this weekend.
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My bro is FINALLY flying in town for some interviews tomorrow so no riding for me this weekend.


100% awesome....tell him good luck and tell him to hurry the fudge up!

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My bro is FINALLY flying in town for some interviews tomorrow so no riding for me this weekend.


I'll borrow your bike for the weekend, hell, i'll even wash and wax it for ya...
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When I get home in July, I'm thinking of heading east (Oregon/Washington).  I'm thinking a mixture of SR-14 for the fun, and I-84 for the scenery.  I'd like to get a few riders on this one.  The only hook-up I have is through PNWriders and a few friends that ride.  I guess that's not bad since they usually supply a big turnout - especially if it's on a weekend.
 
I know that's still a couple of months out, but just thinking and talking about it helps with a momentary escape.
 
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Yeah, we can get a ride going for that one.  You know everyone on PNWriders is going to bitch about taking 84 back though, most of them would probably rather jump back over and take 14 up into washington more, or go back the way we got out there.  Or could head around Hood and come back through Sandy.  
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WTF Geo?  You are thinking of an FZ1 now?  How do you go from looking at 600SS bikes and then come up with that?  Yet say you don't want a Liter?  Is this so your GF can ride with you?

If thats the case, look for an Aprilia Falco, Honda VFR or even a Busa'
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New BMW liter killer.  Supposedly 10hp up on every other bike out there, ABS and traction control standard and priced near the japanese.

I was hoping for something a little more unique looking, but will hold judgement until someone rides it.


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Yeah, we can get a ride going for that one.  You know everyone on PNWriders is going to bitch about taking 84 back though, most of them would probably rather jump back over and take 14 up into washington more, or go back the way we got out there.  Or could head around Hood and come back through Sandy.  
 
 
 
I thought of 84 because Mulnomah Falls.  I would rather ride 14 myself too, which is why I mentioned it.  Geographically speaking, I know little about anything east of Hood River, so I don't know of many options.  I was just throwing that out there....
 
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We can take the old scenic highway to Multnomah falls.  It runs parallel to 84, in fact, its a better view because its elevated and more in the trees.  Plus that takes us by rooster rock and about five other smaller waterfalls that nobody seems to mention because they all go to Multnomah. 

The only downside is the road is very narrow, if you get caught behind a motorhome going 20,  there is almost no way of getting past. 
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Forget knee and elbow down, Hacking managed to get hip and ass down and still road away

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My bro is FINALLY flying in town for some interviews tomorrow so no riding for me this weekend.


I'll borrow your bike for the weekend, hell, i'll even wash and wax it for ya...
You can borrow my bike anytime you want.  I just require a $5000 cash deposit.
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