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Direct Link To This Post Topic: Hot WAXING a new board please HELP
    Posted: Oct/05/2009 at 3:18pm
Hi there folks, I seen a few threads here b4 that were very good and detailed, but since the website update I cant seem to search the threads!?? Unless Im retarted then please tell me how :)
 
Any ways I know some of you gurus have that link saved or if you know it of top of your head please tell me all the TOOLS I need to hot wax my board?
 
I already have a Dakine Iron
5mm Plastic Scraper
SWIX CH6 wax i think.. the "red" 1
 
I remember there were few other things I know I need a nylon Brush what else?
 
Also I should probably hot wax a brand new board I got right? thanks alot in advance.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/05/2009 at 3:23pm
Here's Brody's video

Usually a new board's wax will last a few days but since you're in AZ, 
I would wax it and leave the wax on and scrape it the day before your go snowboarding
It's called leaving a summer coat
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/05/2009 at 3:35pm
There are a lot of things you can use like a cork but they aren't a have to have. I would say you would want a Pad.

About hot waxing your new board. It is up to you, They pretty much all come waxed, so people say re wax it and other say it is fine. If you get bored or want to go a little faster go for it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/05/2009 at 3:50pm
fyi Brody use an EXTREMELY large amount of wax in his video.  You can use about 1/4 of what he uses and be just fine and not have to scrape for 3 hours.  Brody is an X-racer so he got used to using a ton of wax.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/05/2009 at 3:55pm
you don't need a brush but it is a little better if you ride switch a lot its kinda pointless and most new boards come with a good wax on it so you really don't need it unless you arn't riding for a while and wat somebody said before, a summer coat.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/05/2009 at 4:05pm
all i use is my iron, wax, scraper, and the back of a sponge to finish it off.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/05/2009 at 6:51pm
Zag pretty much covered it all... with the exception of some elbow grease and a broom/vacuum to clean up.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/05/2009 at 6:57pm
yeah i'd recommend scraping it outside. can be a pretty big mess
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/05/2009 at 8:04pm
right on thanks mates, Zag by back of the sponge you mean scotch brite pad? and is that used as a brush or an addition to the brush?
 
Then how do I clean the base, if you dont see obvious chunks of dirt, do I need special solution base cleaner or warm water with little soap will do it?
 
Yea also the reason why I asked you guys if I need to wax a brand new board is because I heard mixed reviews, some say its a must since factory wax coat is so thin that it wont last long, plus its crappy wax they put on so base looks nice and it keeps the board not dry while in store.
Others say dont hot wax a brand new board unless its done by a pro, which will be better than factory, but other wise factory wax job is the best you will have!
 
Now Im confused idk what to do :) this is my brand new board I never waxed b4 and the reason why Im wanting to wax my board, the base looks a little too pale not nearly as shiny as the top and looks like it could use few coats of wax...
 
Lastly whats the deal on scrapping right away or letting it sit for 30-60 min b4 doing it? I hear some people say scrape the wax while its warm unless u want to scrape all night.. does that depend on what wax you use? bc I got SWIX.. thanks again! :)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/05/2009 at 8:29pm
well first of all unless the board is super dirty you dont really need to clean it, waxing it will clean your board for you.

2nd no matter how much you wax you wont get your base as shiny as you top sheet

and 3rd you should let your wax sit for about 30 min or so so the wax has a chance to seep into your boards pores
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/05/2009 at 8:31pm
yeah for scraping let it sit 30 minutes minimum, normally i just let em sit over night or until i feel like scraping em.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/05/2009 at 8:31pm
dont use base cleaners unless your base is REALLY damn dirty, or at the end of the season if its really damn dirty.  a hot scrape (wax and scrape right away) will work better, and keeps wax in the base.. base cleaner removes the wax.

just sayin.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/05/2009 at 8:32pm
using scotch pad is most likely last thing you do after using brush..   and waxing new board is just preference
you can either wax it or just ride couple of times then wax..

and top and bottom base they are different, bottom base either sintered or extruded and the topsheet is generally composed of a plastic, fiberglass or composite ( so i guess top is more likely more shiny )

and scrapping you can scrape after about 30min but, thats only if you are in rush, people usually wax atleast 1day b4 they go ride...

lastly you dont need swix wax, those are for professional racer wax, you can just use normal wax that well known brand has to offer.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/05/2009 at 8:55pm
all i do is drip, iron, let it sit, then to scrape it, just scrape it clean with the scraper, then run the piece of scotchguard over it a few times all over tip to tail so its smooth and your good to go
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/06/2009 at 2:05am

awesome info, thanks! yeah I guess that was a dumb thing of me to say that base is not as shiny as top. duhh.. Now that I read that back to myself it sounds silly.

Got all the info/tips on tools needed for the hot wax, still wondering about scrapping techniqe though, like some people say including very active member on this board Spenser :) hot scrape is better, bc its easier to scrape, Spenser also says that it keeps wax in base and others say wait at least 30min if you got time.. lol I guess I will have to try both to see which one is better?
 
Anyways thanks to everyone who shared their valued knowledge here, beer for everyone Hug
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/06/2009 at 5:41am
If your base is dirty, it is better to hot scrape it than to use base cleaner.  If your base is not dirty put the wax on let it sit for ~30 minutes and then scrape.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/06/2009 at 5:57am
hot scrapes are generally just for cleaning off old dirty wax...hot scrapes are also frequently followed by a second waxing using the 30 min cold scrape method mentioned above (this ensures a very clean and deep penetrating wax)

the factory wax that came on your board could probably be considered old, considering you don't really know how long it's been on there (plus the quality and type of factory wax is questionable on most boards)

like ForeRL said: I would drip some more wax on the factory wax, iron it in, let it cool and put the board in the closet without scraping - this will be your storage layer until until AZ gets snow.  When it finally does snow, iron the storage layer and hot scrape it.  Follow this with a second waxing/cold scrape

...the rest of your waxing throughout the season will probably be just single cold scrapes
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/06/2009 at 10:22am
Perfect you guys made it so clear, will do. Once again appreciate all the input folks. Hopefully this will be usefull thread to read for someone starting/getting a new board type of thing, Peace.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/06/2009 at 11:53am
Originally posted by sullyj42

you don't need a brush but it is a little better if you ride switch a lot its kinda pointless and most new boards come with a good wax on it so you really don't need it unless you arn't riding for a while and wat somebody said before, a summer coat.

I didn't think it was anything to do with the direction you use the board in... it's to prevent stiction... (like the effect when you put a mirror on water and try and pull it up... it kind of sticks to the water)... the little imperfections prevent that from happening.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/06/2011 at 4:27pm
(IF YOUR SPRING RIDING)... and after you buffed out the base with a scotch brite pad take a nylon/ copper wire brush and send strokes diagnolly across the base
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/06/2011 at 4:48pm
If it is a brand new board then you should not have to wax it. It shoud come with a factory wax.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/06/2011 at 4:52pm
You *definitely* need to buff the wax with either a brush or scotchbrite pad after you scrape it to break up the surface tension that would cause you to be stuck to the snow and go really slow.  Depending on the snow conditions, you may just want to buff in a linear fashion from tip to tail or perhaps create a "cross-hatch" pattern going diagonally both ways on the base.

As for whether or not it is necessary to wax a brand new board, it is really up to you.  New boards usually come with a factory wax that isn't necessarily the greatest, but should be fine for a day or two on the slopes.  I personally always wax a new board before taking it out for the first time, but that's just me, and I enjoy doing it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/08/2011 at 10:15am
Thanks for the cross-hatching advice for spring riding.  We've typically got a long spring season, but it gets incredibly grabby towards the end of the day.  Hopefully that advice, along with the warm temperature wax that I picked up will do something to help with that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/08/2011 at 10:24am
The house board shop youtube page has a lot of really helpful videos for almost everything snowboarding. Check out this video on how to tune your snowboard including waxing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3wQ5glxJrc&feature=channel_video_title
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/08/2011 at 10:41am
dude since you have a new board you don't need to wax it because it will come with a factory wax. Now, that aside you need to find out what type of base you have extruded or sintered...because a sintered board needs to be waxed almost never and an extruded base needs wax after like 2 times out. You have all of the tools you need and generally before you wax...just wipe your board off with a moist towel to get all the dirt off...once your base is completely dry, drip the wax onto your board evenly, then iron it evenely and then scrape and your g2g!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/08/2011 at 11:02am
Its always good to read the date of a post....this thread is really old...like a year and a half..lol. I even did a double take
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/08/2011 at 1:36pm
Originally posted by zagfan5

yeah i'd recommend scraping it outside. can be a pretty big mess

just do the entire thing outside, dont want to breathe in that burning wax (if you burn it that is) DONT BURN IT
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/08/2011 at 1:41pm
Originally posted by Marumm

Thanks for the cross-hatching advice for spring riding.  We've typically got a long spring season, but it gets incredibly grabby towards the end of the day.  Hopefully that advice, along with the warm temperature wax that I picked up will do something to help with that.


I definitely would not recommend cross hatching. Just get a scotchbrite pad and rub it from tail to tip. That will give you ridges so your board will move fast.
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