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    Posted: Feb/17/2010 at 6:32pm
Anyone have information on the U.S. gloves rocked by the halfpipe team? They form the U.S. Flag when you put the palms together. Reminded me of the Nike football gloves, especially the awesome Florida gloves:


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I saw louis vito just show the flag. That was sick. Nike is the official glove provider so they are def. nike. I'd dig having some pipe gloves like that!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/17/2010 at 6:45pm
I noticed the swoosh on their gloves too. That's pretty sweet!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/17/2010 at 6:58pm
Florida STATE, n00b.

I spent 20 seconds staring at that photo looking for any semblance of Americana symbolism before I noticed the yelling Injun' Dead

Assuming it's part of the uniform and not something the riders pick out themselves, the snowboard uniform is head to toe Burton, so I would guess that that extends to gloves as well.  If that's the case, Burton has said repeatedly they will not release anything they design specifically for the Olympics.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/17/2010 at 6:59pm
^The gloves have the nike swoosh

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/17/2010 at 7:03pm
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Florida STATE, n00b.

I spent 20 seconds staring at that photo looking for any semblance of Americana symbolism before I noticed the yelling Injun' Dead

Assuming it's part of the uniform and not something the riders pick out themselves, the snowboard uniform is head to toe Burton, so I would guess that that extends to gloves as well.  If that's the case, Burton has said repeatedly they will not release anything they design specifically for the Olympics.


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??? Were the team uni's not made specifically for the olympics by burton? Were they color variations of already existing items?
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In my defense I was thinking FSU as I typed out Florida. Either way I hate all Florida teams.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/17/2010 at 7:06pm
Guess Burton doesn't do the gloves, just outerwear.  Weird that they're not listed above.

In that case I'd imagine you'd be able to buy them... I doubt Nike has the same compunctions about selling the official gear of Olympians that Burton has, heh.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/17/2010 at 7:23pm
I have googled my ass off and can't find anything on the pipe gloves. Maybe Hopefully Nike is waiting to reveal them after the Olympics.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/17/2010 at 8:00pm
Burton's Spectre pipe gloves from last year (08) had an American flag on the palm and when you put it together it formed the whole flag. They are not the Olympic ones though
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am I the only one who thinks its sad that they wore gloves with the flag? I mean they represent the USA and it states right in the code of conduct that.....

Rule 36 - d:
The flag should never be used as wearing apparel
, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free.

and in Rule 36 - j
No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.

ummm...yeah...sorry but I think its disrespectful to the country and the flag in which they are there competing for.

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The flag itself is not the uniform or the costume, it is embedded as a graphic. Olympic clotheirs have used the flag on their apparel for years.
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Originally posted by airjesse123

The flag itself is not the uniform or the costume, it is embedded as a graphic. Olympic clotheirs have used the flag on their apparel for years.


the flag should not be depicted on clothing either. bathing suits, coats, anything. that is how it was taught to me.

In the code it also states...
36-(i)
It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard.

I think its safe to say that those articles of clothing will be or could be discarded at some point.

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Where did you get that geo?
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from US Code for use of the US Flag. I first learned of it when I was going into the military.

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oh ok, i remembered hearing stuff like that from my uncle but couldnt remember where it was from. we found a flag up at lake shasta last summer when the water was down like 40 ft and he told us about the proper way to lay it to rest
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yes? I am just stating something that I find important to respect.

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A little selective hearing

It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard.

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cushions, handkerchiefs, napkins != clothing
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Originally posted by natesnowboards

oh ok, i remembered hearing stuff like that from my uncle but couldnt remember where it was from. we found a flag up at lake shasta last summer when the water was down like 40 ft and he told us about the proper way to lay it to rest


If a flag has been flown and now shows signs of tearing, or is considered not fit to be displayed its meant to be destroyed in a respectful manner. Burning is the best way and you can even take flags to places like the VFW for them to retire it. Boy scout troops will also do this for you...

from the manual it states this is the proper retiring..
1. All assemble around the fire. The leader calls the group to attention.
2. The color guard comes forward and places the Flag on the fire.
3. All briskly salute.
4. After the salute, but while still at attention, the leader should conduct a respectful educational program as the Flag burns: e.g. singing of "God Bless America" or "National Anthem" offering an inspiring message of the Flag's meaning followed by the "Pledge of Allegiance"; performing a reading about the Flag; reciting the "American's Creed"; etc.
5. When the Flag is consumed, those assembled, with the exception of a leader and the color guard, should be dismissed. They should be led out in single file and in silence.
6. The leader and color guard should remain to ensure that the Flag is completely consumed, and to burn additional Flags, if any.
7. The fire should then be safely extinguished.


The boy scouts will play taps during it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/17/2010 at 9:27pm
Originally posted by airjesse123

A little selective hearing

It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard.

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cushions, handkerchiefs, napkins != clothing


OR ANYTHING THAT IS DESIGNED FOR TEMPORARY USE AND DISCARD.

Are you saying they will keep those gloves forever? I doubt it...clothing falls into that category.

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I have done the above Joe, but I don't like how we are looking to the Boy Scouts as the authority on patriotism. 
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Originally posted by airjesse123

I have done the above Joe, but I don't like how we are looking to the Boy Scouts as the authority on patriotism. 


I agree...thats why I take my flags to the VFW and have them retire it.

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Originally posted by Geology Rocks

Originally posted by airjesse123

A little selective hearing

It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard.

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cushions, handkerchiefs, napkins != clothing


OR ANYTHING THAT IS DESIGNED FOR TEMPORARY USE AND DISCARD.

Are you saying they will keep those gloves forever? I doubt it...clothing falls into that category.

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If it fell in the category, they would surely mention it before a hankerchief or a napkin. Maybe you classify clothes at disposable but I surely do not. I don't use a shirt once and discard it; or pipe gloves for that matter.

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I've heard of the proper conduct when working with flags themselves but never knew there were rules governing how the flag symbol could be used on clothing or other products.

I can't remember, but I don't think it was the full on flag on the gloves, it was the pattern and inferred the flag but I think parts of the glove had to cut away at the pattern in order to get it to fit. Which... according to what Joe posted is banned too? And what about White's bandanna? Guess that's banned too.

If the boots below were part of the Olympians uniform where would that fall? It would be done to represent the athlete's country but it specifically states no athletic uniforms.


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how are they disrespecting the flag? they're representing the country...
nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking much?

I am sure you are not the only person in the country who knows the rule..
The Gov't approved it, other wise they wouldn't be on the uniform as we speak..
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I am sure you are not the only person in the country who knows the rule..
The Gov't approved it, other wise they wouldn't be on the uniform as we speak..


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I disagree with Joe 1000000000000%  Showing patriotism in the Olympics is not disrespectful in any way.
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if you cant show your flag on your jacket or something from where you are from, then how will they know what country your from?!?! 
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Yeah Yeah the T-Rice Jacket is dope and I don't see it as disrespecting the flag. He's just showing that he is proud to be from the land of the free!
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just because we are winning in medals, dont be hattin'
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just because we are winning in medals, dont be hattin'

I think you need to read the thread... Joe is far from hating on the U.S. of A. What we are discussing is the permissible usage of our flag. While many of us know that there are proper ways to handle an actual flag, most of us are surprised that there are also strict rules governing the usage of the symbol itself.

Anyway while the rules exist, who enforces it and has there been a case where it has been enforced?
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joe is sticking up for the U.S. of A. 
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The rules put forth for the flag are controlled by the Gov't and fines and penalties of up to 1 year in jail should you disgrace the flag.

I am all for showing that you are proud to be an American. i am VERY proud...but the flag is something to be respected and not used as clothing. The US Gov't didn't approve anything...its all passed by the Olympic Committee.

there are no rules against having a small flag as representation on a uniform from my understanding of the rules. Or having the main colors of red white and blue...but there are rules for the actual patch of the flag. Take a look at most other teams. They wear the colors with a little small flag, but not a printing of the flag on them. Something also to consider is the flag is typically over the left breast area as its meant to be close to your heart.

I know most of you disagree with me...thats fine and can understand that.Smile i did a little survey today at work. i asked all 15 of my clients who i saw as well as coworkers. Those under 27 really didnt care, yet those over 40 thought it was wrong. Those who served in a war were really upset. Interesting in my opinion....

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Originally posted by Geology Rocks

The rules put forth for the flag are controlled by the Gov't and fines and penalties of up to 1 year in jail should you disgrace the flag.


Joe you know as well as I do that you may do any damn thing you want to the flag as an exercise of your 1st amendment right of freedom of expression without any fear of Fine or Jail time, KTHXBYEWink
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Today, defacing a flag is an act of protected speech under the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, as established in Texas v. Johnson491 U.S. 397 (1989), and reaffirmed in U.S. v. Eichman496 U.S. 310 (1990).

it's from wikipedia, but if you want you can look up the case law
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correct....you can...however there are still codes of conduct that a respectful US citizen would abide by.

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Geo,

While I understand your frustration, I still don't see where you showed the gloves to be an example of being in violation of the rules. Clothing is NOT a disposable item so that one dosn't apply, and the gloves themselves were not a flag, but had a flag embedded in them as an image. Anyways, it is good to think about these things, but I don't see these gloves as breaking the rules. The closes thing to a breach would be the gold medal winners draping themselves in the flag and trotting in a victory lap.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/19/2010 at 4:42am
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I am all for showing that you are proud to be an American. i am VERY proud...but the flag is something to be respected and not used as clothing. The US Gov't didn't approve anything...its all passed by the Olympic Committee.


if they are representing the country... isn't it logical to think that the Gov't would have SOME control over what they're wearing??
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/19/2010 at 4:48am
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correct....you can...however there are still codes of conduct that a respectful US citizen would abide by.

Hi Phatty...hows the misses and the baby.

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Things are good mang, misses is looking round and it's down to just "normal" random pains. Baby is growing as HE should dunno if you've been around enough to know I found out he's a boy.
 
 
Would you rather have someone disrespect the flag, or you yourself disrespect the Constitution, by trying to limit their expressive speech? 
 
Choice seems pretty simple to me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/19/2010 at 4:59am
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Originally posted by Geology Rocks


I am all for showing that you are proud to be an American. i am VERY proud...but the flag is something to be respected and not used as clothing. The US Gov't didn't approve anything...its all passed by the Olympic Committee.


if they are representing the country... isn't it logical to think that the Gov't would have SOME control over what they're wearing??
Joe is right it's the USOC(US Olumpic Committee) that approves the uniforms. USOC receives a small amount of its money from the Government, but it's mostly funded via sponsorships. That gives the government very limited control over what the USOC does.    
A thermos keeps hot stuff hot, and cold stuff cold.....BUT HOW DOES IT KNOW???
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