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    Posted: Feb/28/2010 at 3:49pm
I feel comfortable with fs and bs 180's.

I starting doing bs 360's today and tried about 12 times, nailed it once!

I tend to land with all my weight on my back foot and end up doing a HUGE ass wheelie and fall over.

To fix this, i believe what I need to do is finish looking forward (so ive heard) which would help me with my weight distribution I guess.

I dont know if thats true, but anyone got any suggestions on how to land flat and ride away?

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http://www.sierrasnowboard.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=33127



here you go, thats a link to some tips on doing bs 3s
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i find that what helps me with backside is to not think too hard about the full spin.  the first 180 is really important.  i find that for just a back 3, it helps me if i concentrate on a solid back 1 but allow myself more air to finish it.  suck your legs up, or better yet, do a grab.. indy, melon, mute.. all good simple grabs.  it helps a lot.  anyway, youll get the first solid back 1, and then keep looking around as you wind down, following through with the second 180.  never just huck the 360, it looks terrible and its a lot sketchier to land cause essentially youre just hoping to land after youve spun a squirrely 360.

i also find it to help to just barely cork it out.  not REALLY a cork, but staying totally flat is actually harder in general.

this video is actually pretty helpful if you watch it a few times in my opinion.  take note of makai (second guy).  he pops the first solid back 1 and you can see he gets a little corked (okay, hes pretty much sideways at one point, but you get the idea), and you can see that he completely spots the landing pretty much before he even has the first 180 down, and the second 180 is just him winding down and landing... make sense?  the more corked you get, the longer you can actually see where you are above the ground, and the sooner you can spot your landing.  the flatter you are, the more completely backwards you are during the first 180 or so.

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  Quote big b0i Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/28/2010 at 4:18pm
the video isnt showing
and what does huck mean?

the rest of your advice is good but if you could fix those 2 things ill be set

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  Quote spenser Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/28/2010 at 4:21pm
fixed the video.

huck partly just means to throw everything into the spin, all sloppy.. not really controlled.. youre just "hucking" it to try to spin around a bunch.  a 360 is not just your body spinning around and you happen to land after a 360... if properly done, it should be a controlled, smooth motion.  almost all the momentum happens with that first half of the spin.. the second half is just winding down.

pop the solid back 1, spot your landing, and your body will follow through.  and ultimately its all about practice.
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  Quote big b0i Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/28/2010 at 4:29pm
aiite man i appreciate your help and I think i can incorporate what youve said next time i ride

thanks for the video ive watching it a couple times and I think ill do better

one more question

Backside 360 is a counter clockwise spin (left-bound) when riding regular. right? with you back facing the top of the mountain during the first 180
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  Quote spenser Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/28/2010 at 4:32pm
no, backside is where the first 180 is blind, or in other words, you arent facing forward.  thats why its called backside. frontside is the opposite, where youre looking where youre going for the first 180.  both spins in the video i posted are backside - both riders are regular footed.

for regular footed riders, a backside spin is clockwise, and frontside is counter clockwise.. and for goofy, the opposite is true.

for frontside 3s, the same is true about the momentum and power in the first 180 and the second 180 is the wind-down, but its a little different, because youre backwards through the second 180, wheras with a backside spin, youre looking forward through the second 180.  pop the first 180 and keep your head turned, and you almost kinda look over your shoulder to spot the landing as you wind down.  personally im much better at frontside and always have been, whereas makai has always been really good at backside and not so much frontside... although he is actually still super good either way.  hes an incredible rider.. one of the most natural talents ive ever seen.
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  Quote big b0i Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/28/2010 at 4:39pm
okay but a backside 180 for regular riders would be clockwise turn?
with ur back facing the mtn
or is that wrong too?
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  Quote spenser Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/28/2010 at 4:48pm
yes, clockwise.  first 90 degrees, your back is downhill.
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