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    Posted: Mar/23/2010 at 2:04pm
i went to my local snowboard shop this week just to get some rub on to tide me over for the last one or two times i go this season, but the dude there convinced me to just buy regular wax, a scraper, and to go get a cheap iron and do a hot wax myself. but he sold me a metal scraper. online i've read that some people say to use plastic, others say metal is ok if you're careful.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/23/2010 at 2:12pm
Exchange it for a plastic scraper. A metal one can damage the base of your board. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/23/2010 at 2:13pm

I use metal to hot scrape when I am cleaning my base and a good "sharp" edged plastic scraper to scrape the reg. hot wax. Remember that you want to get as much wax off as possible. But he probably did you favor in the long run, rub on wax is a good temporary or on the spot kind of thing but it doesn't last nearly as long as a good hot wax. So I would say pick up a plastic one for reg. wax scraping.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/23/2010 at 2:14pm
MEtal is sooo much quicker than plastic
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/23/2010 at 2:16pm
You more likely to scratch you base with a metal scraper but I wouldn't sweat it if that's all you've got. Actually sometime when I let my wax set overnight I will hit it with my metal dakine scraper first.

If you eventually get a plastic you should still hang on to that for any ptex jobs you may have to do in the future
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/23/2010 at 2:16pm
I use both... but personally prefer a metal scraper.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/23/2010 at 2:20pm
metal

you can get one from the hardware store that as wide as any board, just makes it easier

you have to be careful w metal to make sure you dont gouge out your deck
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/23/2010 at 3:34pm
metal works for some people, if you're doing a quick job where you don't really worry about getting off all the wax (and don't mind possibly scraping off a little p-tex structure)

if you take the time to do a full wax where you get all the wax off possible, the chances of scraping off a bit of your structure with the metal scraper is really high (you can even scrape off structure with a sharp plastic one, if you don't know when to stop)

I always use plastic, except on the begining stages of p-tex repairs.  I wouldn't take the chance with metal for a wax job, especially since you're a noob and you probably aren't getting new boards every season

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/23/2010 at 3:40pm
It doesn't really matter which one you use..
For me I use which ever i see first.. and far as people saying you can dmg with metal scrapper? this can only happend if you poke the base with the scrapper with sharp pointer.   I can't see or don't understand how people say you can dmg base of the board by scrapping off of metal scrapper..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/23/2010 at 3:41pm
Metal scrapers take away a good big more of your base structure then you prob won't to keep losing so use a plastic one unless your board got scratched a little and has those fuzzy things.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/23/2010 at 6:14pm
The one thing I don't like about plastic scrapers is how they get dull after like... 2 uses :-/
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/23/2010 at 6:18pm
Originally posted by vicente

Metal scrapers take away a good big more of your base structure then you prob won't to keep losing so use a plastic one unless your board got scratched a little and has those fuzzy things.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/23/2010 at 6:19pm
You can always sharpen a plastic scraper. I used to hit mine with an edge tool(or file) and you have a new edge. I still prefer a metal scraper. I like being able to bend them into a parabola shape when I do a fine scrape.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/23/2010 at 6:22pm
I just keep a big sheet of sandpaper at my waxing station and do a quick sharpen on the wall before every wax...it only takes a couple of passes on each edge to sharpen plastic.

Pulling a metal scraper probably can't damage a base...pushing it is where things get sketchy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/24/2010 at 5:53am
i personally use plastic as i have read alot too about the damaging that can occur with metal, probably all non sense? Should start sharpening my plastic scraper too Embarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/24/2010 at 6:16am
Originally posted by idshredhead

I use metal to hot scrape when I am cleaning my base and a good "sharp" edged plastic scraper to scrape the reg. hot wax. Remember that you want to get as much wax off as possible. But he probably did you favor in the long run, rub on wax is a good temporary or on the spot kind of thing but it doesn't last nearly as long as a good hot wax. So I would say pick up a plastic one for reg. wax scraping.

This is typically what I do as well.  I usually use a plastic scraper throughout the season.  Towards the end of the season my base tends to get dirty from the spring conditions, so I scrap the wax off when it is still hot with the metal scraper to get all the dirt off.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/24/2010 at 6:26am
I've always thought that metal scrapers were for scraping excess p-tex in base repairs.  I might get myself a metal scraper myself for hot waxing :)

Can you use a plastic ruler for a scraper after you snap it in half and sharpen it?  Just wondering.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/29/2010 at 12:55am
Originally posted by Kenmanh

I've always thought that metal scrapers were for scraping excess p-tex in base repairs.  

I've actually used a plastic one, to scrape of ptex for repairs, but that was because I didn't have a metal one on me.
I've yet to try a metal one, but it sounds logical that it would take more wax off.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/01/2010 at 8:59am
I heard plastic is better for quick waxes, metal's good for ptex/base repairs.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/02/2010 at 3:03am
there are no shop techs on here that can help resolve this? or add some pro know to the discussion, sounds like we are all guessing.  

I've used metal too and I have taken some structure out by accident.  For me, plastic is a little lower consequence, and out here in the icy east the whole mountain is a bit scraper after a few runs -- so I am usually down with plastic.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/02/2010 at 3:08am
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/02/2010 at 3:09am
Never use a metal scraper. Just use the plastic ones they work fine. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/02/2010 at 7:44am
Actually I'd say plastic works really well for me, and rather than risk damage to your board I would use the plastic scraper and just work a little harder with it. I'd say watch out for looking for a cheap iron because the temperature settings can really mess up your board if it gets hot enough. I would invest in a good one.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/02/2010 at 9:07am
metal works a lot quicker...but plastic is better for your base. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/05/2010 at 12:38pm
use a plastic one. get the burton triangle with the little cut off on the bottom for the metal edges on ur board. metal scraper will mess ur bottom up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/05/2010 at 12:41pm
i use plastics and they work pretty well. but wouldn't metal scrapper scratch the board?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/05/2010 at 12:43pm
i use plastic for ur basic hot way but when it needs more work i used a metal scraper to shave off ptex or flaten out a gouge.. or when i hot scrape the board to get all teh grime out i prefer the metal sicne the wax does not stick to it as much
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/05/2010 at 12:47pm
I've never waxed before but i plan to start soon. ive just been taking my board in. i guess ill start trying it and use a plastic one.
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i just did my first wax job with a plastic scraper, no problems here....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/05/2010 at 1:34pm
i just waxed my board for the first time with a plastic scraper and i think i should have used a metal one, worked good just felt like i was scraping forever
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/05/2010 at 1:37pm
my plastic scraper does just fine.  don't want to risk it with a metal one.  
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just so i dont have to make a new thread would it be ok to use one of the plastic "putty kinves" that you can get at a hardware store for like a buck?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/05/2010 at 1:49pm
The metal scraper is so much faster, but I'd love to get hear more input from shop techs.

FWIW, the video guides over at snowboardingforum.com mention that it's OK to use a metal scraper, just that you have to be careful to avoid gouging the base with the blade ends.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/06/2010 at 2:06am
A metal scraper is ok you just have to be careful with it. Make sure you don't dig the corners into your base or it will rip through it.

Sometimes I use a metal scraper instead of a perspex scraper when I want to do it quickly but yeah, the safer option is a perspex one.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/06/2010 at 2:16am
Couldn't you round the corners off on the metal scraper so much so that the corners can never cut into the base?  Detune the scraper Smile

If you need the pointy corners, there's still the other side of the scraper.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/06/2010 at 2:24am
I have used metal scrapers only for base repairs and plastic for iron on wax.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/06/2010 at 2:42am
Plastic FTW, take your time and do it well.

The other tip is what we call scotchpads in australia (maybe the same in the US). Green rough pads that will shine your new wax job up beautifully.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/06/2010 at 2:48am
Metal scrapers is only after base repairs with ptex or smth else. Plastic after waxing.
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someone up there ^^^ said to use a high quality ski iron. is this a good idea? i just a bought a $5 piece of shiz at a thrift store. as long as it melts the wax but doesnt burn the base??
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/06/2010 at 10:26am
if you are experienced metal is the way to go but it sounds like you would want a plastic scraper
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Local department stores have triangular rulers.  It works well and it's cheap.
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Originally posted by larry26

just so i dont have to make a new thread would it be ok to use one of the plastic "putty kinves" that you can get at a hardware store for like a buck?


Yes, this is exactly what I have used for two seasons.  Make sure to get a sharp one, or have a way of sharpening it while keeping the edge straight. Most of them have rounded or dull edges.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/12/2010 at 12:12pm
the metal one is too much for waxing
you don't have to return it... it will come in handy

it will really help when you're reapairing your base.... but you still dont' want to do it too hard with scraping off drip candles...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/22/2010 at 12:48pm
I don't have money to buy snowboard scrapers(plastic nor metal), I just use the ice scraper, it takes a while, but it works.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/22/2010 at 12:53pm
i don't want to risk it, so i just use a plastic scraper. But i 've heard that a metal one is better for scraping ptex off if you are doing a repair.
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