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panther
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Topic: waxing--metal or plastic scraper--Posted: Mar/23/2010 at 4:04pm |
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i went to my local snowboard shop this week just to get some rub on to tide me over for the last one or two times i go this season, but the dude there convinced me to just buy regular wax, a scraper, and to go get a cheap iron and do a hot wax myself. but he sold me a metal scraper. online i've read that some people say to use plastic, others say metal is ok if you're careful.
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legend136
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Posted: Mar/23/2010 at 4:12pm |
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Exchange it for a plastic scraper. A metal one can damage the base of your board.
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idshredhead
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Posted: Mar/23/2010 at 4:13pm |
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I use metal to hot scrape when I am cleaning my base and a good "sharp" edged plastic scraper to scrape the reg. hot wax. Remember that you want to get as much wax off as possible. But he probably did you favor in the long run, rub on wax is a good temporary or on the spot kind of thing but it doesn't last nearly as long as a good hot wax. So I would say pick up a plastic one for reg. wax scraping. |
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Scorer099
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Posted: Mar/23/2010 at 4:14pm |
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MEtal is sooo much quicker than plastic
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jasonFTW2
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Posted: Mar/23/2010 at 4:16pm |
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You more likely to scratch you base with a metal scraper but I wouldn't sweat it if that's all you've got. Actually sometime when I let my wax set overnight I will hit it with my metal dakine scraper first.
If you eventually get a plastic you should still hang on to that for any ptex jobs you may have to do in the future |
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ShredbettyZoe
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Posted: Mar/23/2010 at 4:16pm |
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I use both... but personally prefer a metal scraper.
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supreme
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Posted: Mar/23/2010 at 4:20pm |
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metal
you can get one from the hardware store that as wide as any board, just makes it easier you have to be careful w metal to make sure you dont gouge out your deck |
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panther
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Posted: Mar/23/2010 at 5:03pm |
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sweet, thanks guys, some good posts here
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Piranha
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Posted: Mar/23/2010 at 5:34pm |
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metal works for some people, if you're doing a quick job where you don't really worry about getting off all the wax (and don't mind possibly scraping off a little p-tex structure)
if you take the time to do a full wax where you get all the wax off possible, the chances of scraping off a bit of your structure with the metal scraper is really high (you can even scrape off structure with a sharp plastic one, if you don't know when to stop) I always use plastic, except on the begining stages of p-tex repairs. I wouldn't take the chance with metal for a wax job, especially since you're a noob and you probably aren't getting new boards every season |
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CLEE1013
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Posted: Mar/23/2010 at 5:40pm |
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It doesn't really matter which one you use..
For me I use which ever i see first.. and far as people saying you can dmg with metal scrapper? this can only happend if you poke the base with the scrapper with sharp pointer. I can't see or don't understand how people say you can dmg base of the board by scrapping off of metal scrapper.. |
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vicente
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Posted: Mar/23/2010 at 5:41pm |
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Metal scrapers take away a good big more of your base structure then you prob won't to keep losing so use a plastic one unless your board got scratched a little and has those fuzzy things.
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Glaceau
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Posted: Mar/23/2010 at 8:14pm |
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The one thing I don't like about plastic scrapers is how they get dull after like... 2 uses :-/
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The Chez
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Posted: Mar/23/2010 at 8:19pm |
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You can always sharpen a plastic scraper. I used to hit mine with an edge tool(or file) and you have a new edge. I still prefer a metal scraper. I like being able to bend them into a parabola shape when I do a fine scrape.
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Piranha
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Posted: Mar/23/2010 at 8:22pm |
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I just keep a big sheet of sandpaper at my waxing station and do a quick sharpen on the wall before every wax...it only takes a couple of passes on each edge to sharpen plastic.
Pulling a metal scraper probably can't damage a base...pushing it is where things get sketchy |
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azn_dan
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Posted: Mar/24/2010 at 7:53am |
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i personally use plastic as i have read alot too about the damaging that can occur with metal, probably all non sense? Should start sharpening my plastic scraper too
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heischjr
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Posted: Mar/24/2010 at 8:16am |
This is typically what I do as well. I usually use a plastic scraper throughout the season. Towards the end of the season my base tends to get dirty from the spring conditions, so I scrap the wax off when it is still hot with the metal scraper to get all the dirt off.
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Kenmanh
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Posted: Mar/24/2010 at 8:26am |
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I've always thought that metal scrapers were for scraping excess p-tex in base repairs. I might get myself a metal scraper myself for hot waxing :)
Can you use a plastic ruler for a scraper after you snap it in half and sharpen it? Just wondering. |
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Jigkidd
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Posted: Mar/29/2010 at 2:55am |
I've actually used a plastic one, to scrape of ptex for repairs, but that was because I didn't have a metal one on me. I've yet to try a metal one, but it sounds logical that it would take more wax off.
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volador
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Posted: Apr/01/2010 at 10:59am |
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I heard plastic is better for quick waxes, metal's good for ptex/base repairs.
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board_to_death
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Posted: Apr/02/2010 at 5:03am |
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there are no shop techs on here that can help resolve this? or add some pro know to the discussion, sounds like we are all guessing.
I've used metal too and I have taken some structure out by accident. For me, plastic is a little lower consequence, and out here in the icy east the whole mountain is a bit scraper after a few runs -- so I am usually down with plastic.
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Charb
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Posted: Apr/02/2010 at 5:08am |
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plastic.
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stehoul199
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Posted: Apr/02/2010 at 5:09am |
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Never use a metal scraper. Just use the plastic ones they work fine.
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volador
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Posted: Apr/02/2010 at 9:44am |
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Actually I'd say plastic works really well for me, and rather than risk damage to your board I would use the plastic scraper and just work a little harder with it. I'd say watch out for looking for a cheap iron because the temperature settings can really mess up your board if it gets hot enough. I would invest in a good one.
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snoflewis
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Posted: Apr/02/2010 at 11:07am |
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metal works a lot quicker...but plastic is better for your base.
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jman91
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Posted: Apr/05/2010 at 2:38pm |
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use a plastic one. get the burton triangle with the little cut off on the bottom for the metal edges on ur board. metal scraper will mess ur bottom up
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Posted: Apr/05/2010 at 2:41pm |
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i use plastics and they work pretty well. but wouldn't metal scrapper scratch the board?
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Posted: Apr/05/2010 at 2:43pm |
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i use plastic for ur basic hot way but when it needs more work i used a metal scraper to shave off ptex or flaten out a gouge.. or when i hot scrape the board to get all teh grime out i prefer the metal sicne the wax does not stick to it as much
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Posted: Apr/05/2010 at 2:47pm |
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Posted: Apr/05/2010 at 2:47pm |
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I've never waxed before but i plan to start soon. ive just been taking my board in. i guess ill start trying it and use a plastic one.
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Posted: Apr/05/2010 at 3:27pm |
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i just did my first wax job with a plastic scraper, no problems here....
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Posted: Apr/05/2010 at 3:34pm |
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i just waxed my board for the first time with a plastic scraper and i think i should have used a metal one, worked good just felt like i was scraping forever
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Posted: Apr/05/2010 at 3:37pm |
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my plastic scraper does just fine. don't want to risk it with a metal one.
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Posted: Apr/05/2010 at 3:42pm |
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just so i dont have to make a new thread would it be ok to use one of the plastic "putty kinves" that you can get at a hardware store for like a buck?
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Posted: Apr/05/2010 at 3:49pm |
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The metal scraper is so much faster, but I'd love to get hear more input from shop techs.
FWIW, the video guides over at snowboardingforum.com mention that it's OK to use a metal scraper, just that you have to be careful to avoid gouging the base with the blade ends. |
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Posted: Apr/05/2010 at 4:57pm |
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Got a Burton triangle one off sierra for $1. Works Great
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Posted: Apr/06/2010 at 4:06am |
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A metal scraper is ok you just have to be careful with it. Make sure you don't dig the corners into your base or it will rip through it.
Sometimes I use a metal scraper instead of a perspex scraper when I want to do it quickly but yeah, the safer option is a perspex one. |
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Posted: Apr/06/2010 at 4:16am |
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Couldn't you round the corners off on the metal scraper so much so that the corners can never cut into the base? Detune the scraper
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Posted: Apr/06/2010 at 4:24am |
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I have used metal scrapers only for base repairs and plastic for iron on wax.
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Posted: Apr/06/2010 at 4:42am |
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Plastic FTW, take your time and do it well.
The other tip is what we call scotchpads in australia (maybe the same in the US). Green rough pads that will shine your new wax job up beautifully. |
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Posted: Apr/06/2010 at 4:48am |
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Metal scrapers is only after base repairs with ptex or smth else. Plastic after waxing.
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Posted: Apr/06/2010 at 5:23am |
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Posted: Apr/06/2010 at 12:23pm |
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someone up there ^^^ said to use a high quality ski iron. is this a good idea? i just a bought a $5 piece of shiz at a thrift store. as long as it melts the wax but doesnt burn the base??
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Posted: Apr/06/2010 at 12:26pm |
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if you are experienced metal is the way to go but it sounds like you would want a plastic scraper
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Posted: Apr/09/2010 at 12:42am |
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Local department stores have triangular rulers. It works well and it's cheap.
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Posted: Apr/11/2010 at 1:31pm |
Yes, this is exactly what I have used for two seasons. Make sure to get a sharp one, or have a way of sharpening it while keeping the edge straight. Most of them have rounded or dull edges. |
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Posted: Apr/12/2010 at 2:12pm |
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the metal one is too much for waxing
you don't have to return it... it will come in handy it will really help when you're reapairing your base.... but you still dont' want to do it too hard with scraping off drip candles... |
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Posted: Apr/22/2010 at 2:48pm |
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I don't have money to buy snowboard scrapers(plastic nor metal), I just use the ice scraper, it takes a while, but it works.
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Posted: Apr/22/2010 at 2:53pm |
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i don't want to risk it, so i just use a plastic scraper. But i 've heard that a metal one is better for scraping ptex off if you are doing a repair.
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