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Poll Question: Which is better Squaw or Kirkwood
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    Posted: Apr/19/2010 at 8:57am
I am debating wether to renew my kwood season pass or ride squaw next year.  I am not really a park rider.  I like back country, groomers and riding natural features.  I also like bombing long runs and riding through steeps as well.  I also like POW riding (who doesn't though?).  I've been to squaw once but didn't get a good feel for the resort.  Has anybody ridden both that can give me a fair assessment.  If money was no object which resort would you decide on?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/19/2010 at 9:58am
I've had a season pass to both but I'm still having trouble making the decision for next season. I'm from the Bay Area so the location also makes a big difference to me. Some things to consider that will maybe help:

-Squaw has a better location and it is faster to get to. It is right off the high way and also closer to cabins.
-Kirkwood on the other hand is at south lake and it's harder to get to -- there is a lot more back driving and in my experience a lot slower especially if there is chain control.
-Squaw is more expensive than Kirkwood (I know you said money was no object but I think it's still worth noting -- since if it really was no object, you could just get both). It's significantly more expensive, something like $200 more, which means even if you get a Kirkwood pass for $300, the $200 savings means you can still hit up Squaw 3x that season (If you get your tix at Sports Basement for $63)
-Break even point, if you get the Squaw pass, you need to go at least 8 times to break even on your pass. If you get the Kirkwood pass, you need to go at least 6 times to break even (discount tickets are $58)

I like both resorts and I've had a lot of fun at both. The other consideration is of course housing/cabins and where your friends are going.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/19/2010 at 10:05am
I voted for kwood.  I got the pass this year
 
good:
- it's closer to the bay area.  3-3.5 hrs if you go through jackson
- no lines
 
bad:
 - chairs can be slow.
  - wind hold often closes the backside so you're limited to the frontside  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/19/2010 at 10:10am
When I lived up in the bay, I had a Kirkwood pass. I didn't ride Squaw too often, but when I did, it was when I was still learning, so don't really remember the terrain. If price wasn't an issue, I think I would go with Squaw. It's more central to the Tahoe area rather than Kirkwood which is south of everything. I forget the drive, but I remember the drives to Kirkwood, and it's pretty bad when chains are required...although I would think a lot of out of the way resorts are crazy and slow. There must be a reason why you chose a season pass to Kirkwood, so keep in mind why your buying a season pass for and I think you will figure out which resort you will pick.
Did you google it?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/19/2010 at 10:11am
I had a Kirkwood season pass last year, went up plenty of times but by the end of the season, i was getting pretty bored. Plus, the lack of anything to do at night at Kirkwood made staying out there a bummer.

Squaw on the other hand is a lot bigger, plus there's always the night riding too. 10+ hours of snowboarding in a day? yes please! But also their season passes are pretty expensive too Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/19/2010 at 10:12am
I voted kirkwood.

Less crowded.
Less people on a pow day = fresh tracks much later in the day, even in the following days if you know where to look.
Less crowded = Traffic isn't insane on 80 trying to get home.
Better crowd of people. People don't go there because it's a place to go. I always tended to get a much more layed back vibe from the people there. Everybody's just psyched to be there. can't really explain it.

Overall - while smaller, i think Kirkwood is just a more enjoyable experience. Squaw is bigger for sure - and maybe even has some better terrain. Kirkwood is certainly not lacking in the terrain department though, and it just has a better overall feel about the place.

I'm here for the gangbang....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/19/2010 at 10:46am
Originally posted by vanango

I've had a season pass to both but I'm still having trouble making the decision for next season. I'm from the Bay Area so the location also makes a big difference to me. Some things to consider that will maybe help:

-Squaw has a better location and it is faster to get to. It is right off the high way and also closer to cabins.
-Kirkwood on the other hand is at south lake and it's harder to get to -- there is a lot more back driving and in my experience a lot slower especially if there is chain control.
-Squaw is more expensive than Kirkwood (I know you said money was no object but I think it's still worth noting -- since if it really was no object, you could just get both). It's significantly more expensive, something like $200 more, which means even if you get a Kirkwood pass for $300, the $200 savings means you can still hit up Squaw 3x that season (If you get your tix at Sports Basement for $63)
-Break even point, if you get the Squaw pass, you need to go at least 8 times to break even on your pass. If you get the Kirkwood pass, you need to go at least 6 times to break even (discount tickets are $58)

I like both resorts and I've had a lot of fun at both. The other consideration is of course housing/cabins and where your friends are going.


I like the way you explained this, this is exactly how i was vetting the season pass decision process to my fiancee
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/19/2010 at 10:56am
kirkwood is my favorite. always seems to have the freshest powder :)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/19/2010 at 10:56am
I have never been to Squaw, but got to go to Kirkwood a few months ago. Out of all of the South Tahoe resorts, Kirkwood is now my favorite.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/19/2010 at 10:58am
been to squaw, but not enough to give it a fair rating. I voted k-wood because you can't deny the value, amount of snow, quality of snow, crowd factor, traffic on I80 etc.... I live in rocklin and the 80 side resorts are way closer, but when I considered all the above and an unlimited pass for $299 it was a no brainer. I had the k-wood pass this season and scored epic pow days! I was hoping for some better values on 80 side resorts to consider but they just aren't there.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/19/2010 at 10:59am
If you really ride backcountry, like real out of the boundary's stuff, then Kirkwood is a better choice.  Squaw has no boundary gates and they will arrest you if you access the backcountry from anywhere within that resort.  Kirkwood has gates and gives you pretty good slackcountry access...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/19/2010 at 11:44am
Is housing cheaper near squaw?  I usually stay in south lake tahoe at casino's from anywhere from 100-150 bucks a night.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/19/2010 at 11:49am
kirkwood..no question..pass is cheaper too..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/19/2010 at 11:50am
Originally posted by Dirtydragon

Is housing cheaper near squaw?  I usually stay in south lake tahoe at casino's from anywhere from 100-150 bucks a night.


You can go right down the street from the casinos for probably half the price.

I'm here for the gangbang....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/19/2010 at 11:52am
DD is there really a decision here?

This is what i know about you
1. Manage a Hedge Fund in the Bay
2. Like Techy gadgets like cars and cameras
3. ride powder
4. own many boards, but do not like excess
5. like ss.com

Ride in civilization, ride where your friends ride, ride where other people like techy gadgets, RIDE SQUAW!!!

You might as well take a horse and carriage to kirkwoodSmile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/19/2010 at 1:00pm
+1 for Kirkwood. It's hard to argue against their mountain, terrain and quantity of snow.

To be fair, I haven' t been to squaw for years and have had KW passes on and off for the past ten years.

The downside to KW is lodging availability and cost, but I'm not a huge fan of north lake lodging options either. South Lake seems to have the best lodging options.
No Sig... I'm just not that witty or creative
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/19/2010 at 1:17pm
kirkwood because its so much cheaper
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/19/2010 at 1:21pm

SQUAW!!! I love that place, Squaw is where its at! KT-22, the village is sweet, endless runs. Its a no brainer for me!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/19/2010 at 1:22pm
Kirkwood!!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/19/2010 at 1:31pm
also voting for kirkwood
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/19/2010 at 1:38pm
Originally posted by Mike.M

DD is there really a decision here?

This is what i know about you
1. Manage a Hedge Fund in the Bay
2. Like Techy gadgets like cars and cameras
3. ride powder
4. own many boards, but do not like excess
5. like ss.com

Ride in civilization, ride where your friends ride, ride where other people like techy gadgets, RIDE SQUAW!!!

You might as well take a horse and carriage to kirkwoodSmile


That is scary accurate, although i'd probably put like SS.com as number 1. 
Wow... I wish i managed a hedge fund haha.  I am lowly man on totem poll or else i'd buy both squaw and kirkwood season pass haha.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/19/2010 at 1:44pm
Squaw is my least favorite mountain, maybe even below Donner Ski Ranch.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/24/2010 at 11:06am
Jus rode Squaw for the first time yesterday nice place, great ppl, cool runs, not so great park but it was something to do.  The place is a lil pricey!  Had fun but season pass buying wise I'd def go Kirkwood.  The drive sucks, but I get a better feel there, not so crowded, and cheaper prices.  "If money was no objet" I'd buy both but since thats not the case I wud pick Kirkwood
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