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    Posted: Sep/14/2010 at 7:21pm
hmmm that boa thing looks pretty cool im just wondering how easy it is to tighten and loosen...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/14/2010 at 7:44pm
^^ The Boas are amazing, all you do is push the wheel in and crank it to tighten it, to loosen it you just pull the wheel out and vuala boots immediately loosened.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/14/2010 at 8:07pm
BOA are very easy to tighten and loosen... I haven't tried em but my friend has BOAs and he just spins his wheel and done.

Some people will tell you to stick with laces but it is your prerogative to get BOA if you so desire. They work just fine... you may expect more effort to replace the wire if it breaks/frays on you but it can be done... regular laces are just so much easier to replace at normal stores :p.

Personally I'm fine with sticking with laces for the time being.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/14/2010 at 8:26pm
BOA are fine until something goes wrong LOL
shops here in Australia arent helpful to help you fix them if you dont buy the gear in Australia Cry

my mate went down to ESS to get his vans fixed they wanted to charge him 60 bucks to unkink a wire. Some other customers came in he immediately went to serve them instead.
so my mate just played around with the wire in store and fixed it before he got back and promptly left Smile

if you insist on boa definately go the double BOA
the single one just does not tighten the most people (i know) like it to

however most people isnt everybody so there must be people out there that like the single BOA cause they still making them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/15/2010 at 5:22pm
I usually tie it like normal and have a friend at the end step on the end of your toe while I tighten it. I then just double knot my lace.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/23/2010 at 9:25am
Originally posted by kimchijajonshim

Originally posted by Muse25

I found this helpful:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbuCotDuRLM

That.  Buddy who plays hockey taught it to me.  It won't help if you just have poor boot fit, but it'll help if your problem is that the boot's getting loose over the course of the day.


Hockey style is the way to go if you like em tight. The most important part of the video is the cross he does with the laces in between looping the eyelets. You can do the cross vertical like he does or horizontal like the cross you do on regular shoes before the rabbit ears. It holds the laces in place when you loop the eyelets.
Whether you go over or under the eyelets depends on you and your boots.
My laces are long enough that before I do the top set of eyelets I wrap them around the back of the boot. Some people like to skip the center eyelets and go straight to the top before wrapping around the back and then tie them off in the center. But again familiarity is more important than technique.

Number one problem with laces is boot fit! (speaking specifically about traditional laces) I know this might sound crazy. I mean what is the point of laces other than making your boot fit your foot right? wrong. The laces are so you can get in and out of your boots, if they don't fit then you are going to tie them too loose or too tight and that is a whole other nightmare. I found that 90% of the time when I thought my laces were too tight and cutting off circulation, or too loose to stay tied I was often wearing socks that were too thick. If you have good boots you shouldn't need two pair socks! Good liners do a better job of keeping you warm than socks, so adding a second layer just ads room for cold to get in. And whatever cool technology the company put into making boots that fit you is wasted by the inch of cotton you put between your foot and the boot.
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BOA are fine until something goes wrong LOL
shops here in Australia arent helpful to help you fix them if you dont buy the gear in Australia Cry
my mate went down to ESS to get his vans fixed they wanted to charge him 60 bucks to unkink a wire. Some other customers came in he immediately went to serve them instead.
so my mate just played around with the wire in store and fixed it before he got back and promptly left Smile


Wow, those bastards at the shop were totally being a jerk to your friend!  I had a similar experience when I took my Mustang to the GM dealership and they wouldn't honour the warranty.

Or maybe they want to actually be paid for performing some repair work?  I guess free repairs on the gear that you bought somewhere else just wasn't a viable business model.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/23/2010 at 11:27am
i think the boa system is awesome for convenience... get them on and off really quickly... get the double boa.. i had a pair of single boa and they just didn't fit well... tight around my calves but loose around my toes... or just way to tight switched to the regular lace up boots and haven't had a problem!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/23/2010 at 11:35am
i wanna try the new Rome designed ones... the Pureflex..
but. being a hockey player. i tie my boots like i tie my skates. not too tight. but not too loose..but i tie them the secret hockey way where they dont loosen throughout the day...so ill stick to traditional until i try something like a pureflex...no boa for me
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/23/2010 at 11:38am
I had bad experiences with boa, too many pressure points. Plus they break down on your after a while.

I usually cross my laces at the middle as they crosses each other usually seem to do the trick for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/04/2010 at 6:26pm
A technique I learned a few years back and works great is to lace up the boots thru the hooks like normal, but then lace them down one hook again. when you lace back down one hook, it helps to keep it from slipping/loosening when you are tieing the knot (especially if you get dressed in the parking lot instead of lodge and your hands are numb/freezing). A boot will never be tight if you let it get loose when tieing the knot.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/04/2010 at 6:53pm
I got to try that tip with traditional laces, thanks for the vid.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/04/2010 at 6:58pm
Originally posted by BoxStomper

i wanna try the new Rome designed ones... the Pureflex..
but. being a hockey player. i tie my boots like i tie my skates. not too tight. but not too loose..but i tie them the secret hockey way where they dont loosen throughout the day...so ill stick to traditional until i try something like a pureflex...no boa for me

I do the same.  Here's to us hockey players!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/05/2010 at 1:34pm
I have been using the speed laces on the Burton Rulers and they have been mostly ok. They are quicker than traditional laces but they tend to loosen up a bit after a few hours. I would like to try the BOA's someday.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/05/2010 at 1:55pm
lace it up the boot then rap around once with a note that works perfect for me ! 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/06/2010 at 5:28pm
Originally posted by fishkur

Originally posted by humdingaling

BOA are fine until something goes wrong LOL
shops here in Australia arent helpful to help you fix them if you dont buy the gear in Australia Cry
my mate went down to ESS to get his vans fixed they wanted to charge him 60 bucks to unkink a wire. Some other customers came in he immediately went to serve them instead.
so my mate just played around with the wire in store and fixed it before he got back and promptly left Smile


Wow, those bastards at the shop were totally being a jerk to your friend!  I had a similar experience when I took my Mustang to the GM dealership and they wouldn't honour the warranty.

Or maybe they want to actually be paid for performing some repair work?  I guess free repairs on the gear that you bought somewhere else just wasn't a viable business model.


Yeah.. I get the feel that it's pretty much just the ethos in Aussie shops... and funny thing, there's an article in today's paper (Herald Sun) on how most retailers want the rules on GST and charges changed to reduce from $1000AUS when you get stuff from overseas as they're losing business due to ppl buying it from ebay and the like.

Well really they've got to take a long hard look at how they're conducting their business, because if they had something to differentiate them from the overseas sellers such as AFTER SERVICE and CUSTOMER CARE, they wouldn't be in this predicament.
Yes they can pretty much call the shots previously due to them having monopoly, but if they keep thinking that's how they're going to do business, they'll find that they have to close up shop asap.

Oh yeah, and to stick back to topic, one of the reasons I keep using traditional lacing is coz I don't want to deal with the above if/when something happens to my boots... =(  I'd try a double boa otherwise.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/14/2010 at 2:47pm
well tying them is a pain. i pull them as tight as i can before lacing to the next ringlet. and the end wrap around the boot before tying. and double knot.
I prefer boa boots. they're easy, quick, stay tight, and easy to adjust to the right tightness. as much as you like.
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