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    Posted: May/08/2010 at 2:13pm
im thinking about buying union bindings. maybe look out for some sierra contacts or something. just wondering how they ride and everything? im pretty much all mountain rider specifically into freestyle and jibs and all that. and how dot hey compare to burton triads?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/08/2010 at 2:32pm
there are night and day differences between some peoples opinions on union.  some love them (like me) and some hate them and think theyre junk.  its pretty weird to me that people can say such different things about the same bindings, but whatever.

they are made with pretty much the best plastics in the world from dupont.. thats what they specialize in.  they also use a lot of other unique materials and processes.  they are the only company to make their own hardware out of grade 8 aluminum instead of grade 4, they use extruded anodized aluminum heelcups... its only compromised once, rather than being bent and pressed 3, 4, or even 5 times, so its strong.  they use magnesium ratchets which are twice as light and 4 times as strong as aluminum, so on and so forth.  i personally love them.

the sierra contacts are going to ride pretty much like contacts, which are a slightly less responsive binding but theyre not super soft or anything.  if you dont prefer something on the more responsive side then they should be fine.

if you want something a little more responsive, more like a general mid-flex bindings, try forces.  i have owned a lot of forces, as well as burton cartels/triads, and those three are all very similar in response.  if you like how triads feel, i would go with forces.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/08/2010 at 6:48pm
thanks. ill be on the lookout next season for next years forces! :D and i was just wondering how can people's opinions be in such a wide range?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/08/2010 at 8:16pm
cuz its all preference i guess.  but unions are solid sick
dance like no one's watching
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/08/2010 at 8:18pm
I wouldn't recommend sierra contacts for all mtn ridie + jibs, go with forces. they are hard to come by right now but just wait until the 2011 ones come out. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/09/2010 at 6:30am
yeah. i was doing some research and thinking bout force sl's.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/09/2010 at 6:36am
I didnt know union made their own hardware too. Thats pretty interesting to know
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/09/2010 at 10:54am
Originally posted by dvdngu

yeah. i was doing some research and thinking bout force sl's.
SLs used to be about the same as forces, just lighter and more technical, but the newer ones are actually significantly stiffer.  they rate forces at 7/10 and SLs at 9/10 now.  if you want something stiffer than your triads (i assume thats what youve ridden, since you asked how they compare), then sure, SLs.. but if not, forces are your best bet.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/09/2010 at 12:35pm
which would be better oriented for my riding style? allmtn freestyle oriented
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/09/2010 at 12:42pm
Originally posted by youngun92

I wouldn't recommend sierra contacts for all mtn ridie + jibs, go with forces. they are hard to come by right now but just wait until the 2011 ones come out. 
Just wondering why you don't recommend the contacts is there a specific reason or just that the forces are better??? The contacts come in at a fairly reasonable price and are comparable to some of the top bindings?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/09/2010 at 1:11pm
read what spenser said. he said they contacts are less responsive.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/10/2010 at 5:22am
get the burton triads much better i had unions two seasons ago and they were alright but i wasnt a big fan
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/10/2010 at 5:50am
Originally posted by andrethegiant

get the burton triads much better i had unions two seasons ago and they were alright but i wasnt a big fan
I like the triads too but union has changed a few things since the past couple of years one includes the magnesium buckles they are lighter and stronger.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/10/2010 at 5:52am
they have had magnesium buckles since day one as far as i know, but dont quote me on that.  i do know that the year two forces (2007 model) had them, so.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/10/2010 at 8:26am
spenser I have riden the triads and do like them and you say to go with the forces.. I was wondering how the cartels are comparable to the two i dont know anybody who has these so was just needing some feedback and opinions on them. My two options that i have narrowed it down to was the cartels and the contacts.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/10/2010 at 8:38am
i already have triads! :D
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/11/2010 at 12:58am
Originally posted by bigjuicedog

spenser I have riden the triads and do like them and you say to go with the forces.. I was wondering how the cartels are comparable to the two i dont know anybody who has these so was just needing some feedback and opinions on them. My two options that i have narrowed it down to was the cartels and the contacts.
owned/ridden cartels and triads.  as far as response goes, they feel the same to me, and everything else might as well be the same too.  between the two, if i were buying one or the other, id buy cartels just because there is nothing about triads that makes the ride feel different to me when it comes down to it so id have no reason to spend more on triads.

its often said in some way or another that forces are unions cartel.  all three bindings are solid mid flex bindings that can pretty much be ridden by anyone anywhere and enjoyed, unless the rider has very strong preferences toward soft or stiff bindings.

if you like triads and cartels and want unions that ride similarly, the forces are the most similar, hands down.  or datas, but in reality those are just themed forces.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/11/2010 at 1:14am
I recommend
Union Sierra Contact SL Snowboard Bindings 2010
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/11/2010 at 1:18am
i think these bindings are awesome. Because of the staff pick sale, i almost brought a board if they included these bindings on sale. Didnt want to buy board and ended up waiting for these. These bindings performs just as well as my cartels in my opinion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/11/2010 at 6:13am
I have a pair of the union sierra contacts. I love them. They are a nice all around binding that is a little on the softer side. Allows you to tear it up in the park, but also hit the mountain if you want.
I still rock the Bandana...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/11/2010 at 6:38am
Yeah, but all they have left in stock are M/L for Union-Sierra Contacts.  If you have larger than size 10 boots you're SOL.  Gotta find something else to go with the Stunt, sounds like we've gotta wait until the 2011s come out.  Uhh, there will be 2011 Union-Sierra Contacts, right?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/14/2010 at 9:00am
i dont think there will be another union sierra contact. but union will probably do collabs with other companies and sierra with other companies as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/20/2010 at 2:13am
Do the Union Sierra Contact have the same warranty that all Union bindings have?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/20/2010 at 2:15am
of course.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/20/2010 at 2:34am
Thanks for all the goss guys great to here some info on the bindings I think it was T' that put it simple, so thanks for lossing the smoke screen
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/20/2010 at 2:39am
i loved my unions but found that the straps seemed to wear down tear and buckles lost their sprint after maybe 20 days on the snow, and also you need to use some lock tite for some of the hand screws as i lost a few on the snow one day and it wasnt fun riding down to the bottom with only one foot strapped in!
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