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If Carwin wanted to win he should have actually knocked him out cold, but he didn't.

Originally posted by azn_dan eh the main event was questionable, but i think lesnar did end up deserving it. Sure he got rocked in the first round, but the ref did make sure that he was ok and that he was "intelligently" defending himself. Sure you might say he turtled, but he did do something to try and avoid damage. I was alittle surprised that he finished via submission too. Akiyama's fight was alright, but i thought it would have been a cake walk with leben.

Goddammit... Just watched the event.  I was so disappointed when Lesnar sunk in the arm triangle.  I don't think Velasquez stands a chance with Lesnar... Right now Carwin's the only guy who stands a chance in the heavyweight division for me.  He's got the size and the knockout power to finish Lesnar... I just don't think anyone else can do it.
Awesome fight Leben!  Nothing but props for him.

UFC 116 was pretty much amazing... other than the main event.
I was terribly disappointed Lesnar won that, he doesn't deserve to be the champion. I'm glad he is at least not being a complete meat head about his win.

in his after fight interview he thanks the ref for letting the first round continue (when hes cowaring and not defending himself and Carwin is totally devastating him). He says he went into 'survival mode'. pfff

I cant wait for someone to take Lesnars belt, Carwin was soooooo close. It must be hard to train for a heavy weight, gotta give Lesnar credit for his cardio - he is one fast mo fo for his size.

Originally posted by dbowles Carwin got robbed. 99% of the time the ref ends it. BUT props to Brock for surviving and winning it. I'm ready to see the rematch. Hopefully carwin works on his cardio some more.

they ususally dont like to stop championship belts and let they duke it out a bit more just so it doesn't become questionable. l honestly think carwin should have won though. brock started to turtle up for awhile

cant say i lokc brock but have to hand it to him got smashed inthe face literally and still able to win.

Big discussion over at mma forums like sherdog on whether the fight could've been stopped in the first. Seems like only a minority thought it would've been a good stoppage though.

I would also say it would've been a bad stoppage. Brock kept busy and that's all the ref needs to see. There was like 2-3 seconds where he had both hands covering his face but he was moving his head and right after, Brock was going for Carwin's arms and trying to grab on to them. And for non-mma fans, getting beat on doesn't mean much and won't get a stoppage if he's defending even with one arm. Brock was covering his face with one arm and the other arm was pushing/grabbing during the entire ordeal. That equals "intelligently defending oneself." Usually they only stop it if you cover up with both arms AND turn your head away from the opponent.

Originally posted by barnyard yeah, I'd love to know the force of a punch from each of them.  they should do that as part of the weigh ins.

You can pretty much guarantee there will be a rematch at some point in the next couple years.  I can see these guys ruling the top of the division for some time to come.  Although I will say Valazquez and Dos Santos are very legit as well.  It's so nice to finally see multiple talent in the HW division instead of 1 or 2 decent guys and a bunch of scrubs.

Originally posted by CoMtnRider You can pretty much guarantee there will be a rematch at some point in the next couple years.  I can see these guys ruling the top of the division for some time to come.  Although I will say Valazquez and Dos Santos are very legit as well.  It's so nice to finally see multiple talent in the HW division instead of 1 or 2 decent guys and a bunch of scrubs.

Dos santos is someone to watch out for, he's got that huge knockout power and i am pretty sure he has a somewhat decent ground game. Interesting to see how he fares against Nelson.

Looking forward to Velasquez V Lesnar now!
Was hoping Carwin would win :(

guys I recommend watching "Undisputed" movie series. There are currently 3 parts to the movie and if you're a UFC fan, watch this. Although some of the moves they pull off are pretty bs, its still quite real :D 

agreed, if carwin landed more clean heavy shots, he might had the match. I guess brock turtled up pretty good and was pretty fresh for the second round.

tree trunk forearms.

Originally posted by Blur510 Originally posted by azn_dan agreed, if carwin landed more clean heavy shots, he might had the match. I guess brock turtled up pretty good and was pretty fresh for the second round. brocks's forearms are so big that when he covers up with both his forearms, he covers his entire face.. and he has a huge face..

Carwin should have backed away when he realized that the majority of his shots were being blocked.  Or at least attempted something else.  He was very one dimensional with just punching.  He could have tried to knee and kick brock while he was so busy covering his face.  A few well placed shots in the legs of brock and that would have slowed him down.  Also when brock was turtling and the time was close to running out.  He could have gone on top of him and did some grappling. 

In the end Brock did a better job of fighting and Carwin gassed himself out way to quick.  It sucks, happens to me when I grapple.  Go all out thinking you got it but it just burns you out. 

you can bash rosenthal, but i would be more disappointed to see a bad/early stoppage. Better to have a clear cut winner then a wishy washy stoppage that may have been questionable. Can you imagine if he stopped the fight and brock jumped up right away? he really didn't seem hurt, and you may say they were unanswered blows, but i think he was still somewhat intelligently defending himself, though he did eat that one huge elbow

I was disappointed in Carwin's ground game. He had a lose half guard brock easily took the mount. Carwin is from Grey Jackson's camp why couldn't he close up his guard and prevent brock from passing?

Another thing to note while Carwin was on top brock's guard was pretty open and Carwin could of went for a better position or possibly mount.

Originally posted by azn_dan Originally posted by Surfs_up I was disappointed in Carwin's ground game. He had a lose half guard brock easily took the mount. Carwin is from Grey Jackson's camp why couldn't he close up his guard and prevent brock from passing? Another thing to note while Carwin was on top brock's guard was pretty open and Carwin could of went for a better position or possibly mount.   Like i said, the man doesn't train full time and if you ask me, he only has knockout power. Other then that i did not see any form of a ground game.   In other news, anyone excited about Jake shields being signed to the UFC? They say he is going to be fighting the top contender in the WW division, which is most likely the result of the Alves/Fitch fight. It will be a nice mix up in the division.  UFC 117 is just around the corner too.

I'm not a big shields fan... although i have a huge respect for him for beating hendo... i was as shocked as anyone... even though i was hoping he'd win...
we'll see how he does in the ufc... i don't see him really contending for the title though... at his skill level i see him as a gatekeeper at WW

I hate Sonnen... silva is going to kill him... unless he gets bored/disinterested.. which has a very good likelyhood of happening..
silva won't lose in yet another squash match..

i would love to see silva lose too... but not to a guy like sonnen...
i would have loved to see maia tap him or marquardt beat him...

maybe someday we'll see the gsp/silva superfight....
but im not sure even gsp can beat him honestly.. and i love gsp..

i'll be at the silva sonnen fight! also supportin my friend's fiance fitch!

Maybe UFC 121 may call for a so cal trip...

Sonnen has been talking heaps of crap about Silva, i think he needs to keep his mouth shut, Silva is one of the best fighters going around, his natural talent is way above sonnen's lets just see if he has given him the respect to work hard and fight properly!

I have to give it to Silva, he is a great fighter with speed and precision. But crap I honestly hate that cocky douche monkey butt licker. Just waiting for someone to get him good in the pocket and take him down with a punch 

Silvia is going to win again. But I would love the dude to knock him around first.