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    Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 9:22am
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/42177...erpunch15.html
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Bam punched in the face..

"Seattle police are investigating what they call an assault of an officer in South Seattle. However, a police officer is seen punching a 17-year-old girl in the face during the incident captured by a video camera on Monday.
According to Seattle police, the incident began when an officer spotted a man jaywalking in the 3100 block of Martin Luther King, Jr. Way S. at approximately 3:10 p.m. The man was some 15 feet away from a pedestrian overpass, police said.
The officer was talking to the man when he saw four young women jaywalk across the same street at the same spot. The officer asked the women to step over to his patrol car, but the women were being "verbally antagonistic toward the officer," according to officials.
One of the women, later identified as a 19 year old, began to walk away from the scene despite the officer's instructions, prompting the officer to walk over to her and escort her back to his patrol car.
The girl then "began to tense up her arm, and pull away from the officer while yelling at him," investigators said. The officer told the girl to place her hands on his patrol car, but she refused. When the officer tried to grab hold of her, "she pulled away and twisted, breaking free of the officer's grip several times," the blotter report said.
When the officer tried to handcuff the girl, another girl, this one 17 years old, intervened and placed her hands on the officer's arm, "causing the officer to believe she was attempting to physically affect the first subject's escape," police said.
The officer pushed back the second girl, but the girl came back at him. The officer then punched her, police said.
The officer then handcuffed the 19-year-old woman. Other officers arrived and helped handcuff the second girl.
Both teens were cited for jaywalking. The older suspect was booked into the King County Jail for investigation of obstructing an officer. The 17-year-old girl was booked into the Youth Service Center for investigation of assault of an officer.
Nobody was injured during the incident, police said.
Seattle police have not reviewed the video of the incident. Sgt. Sean Whitcomb said investigators may review the video on Tuesday.
Whitcomb said the officer involved in the incident sent out a call for help, prompting other officers to rush to his aid.
All use of force on the job is reviewed, Whitcomb said, as use of force is under the officer's discretion. He added that punching is a trained tactic.
"There will be a thorough investigation into this incident," he said."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 9:25am
On one hand - there shouldn't be a need to punch a chick like that.

on the other hand:





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 9:29am
On a serious note - there's a right way, and a wrong way, to handle the police. The way these kids went about it was absolutely the wrong way - and they felt the consequences.

That said - You put your hands on a cop - they're going to react.  Seems extreme to get punched in the face - but really, it beats the taser or pepper spray.  Once you get past the knee-jerk reaction of "17 year old girl punched by a cop" - and you look at the reality of the situation, what these girls did, and how the cops reacted - I don't think it was as unreasonable as it first sounds.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 9:33am
I saw that on fox news last night...
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/16/seattle-police-guild-defends-officers-punch/

The 1st link looks like it was taken down.


Did you google it?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 9:36am
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 9:44am
Aren't there more pressing/serious crimes for the police to worry about in Seattle than jaywalking?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 9:47am
^^^Exactly. You put your hands on a cop you're asking for trouble.
 
Whether a cop is right or wrong is irrelevant as soon as you make an aggressive action. This girl got in his face and pushed him.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 9:47am
seems like the police officer was acting resposibly
i dont see much wrong with what he did going by the article

never touch a police officer... getting punched in the face is a direct consequence of that... why would you want to touch someone with a gun anyways... unless he has it pointed at you and demands a handjob...
then its ok... but never look him in the eye while doing it... because that would be a sure sign that you're homosexual or if you get an erection while giving him a tug...
i forget where i was going with this...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 9:51am
Falcon PUNCH!

I think the punch was taking it a bit to far.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 9:54am
Originally posted by wdi

Aren't there more pressing/serious crimes for the police to worry about in Seattle than jaywalking?
Can't they just use a cross walk?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 9:58am
Jaywalking is a way of life in Seattle/Portland.  I had no idea you could actually even get a ticket for it until I traveled the country more.  Its the stupid rule ''pedestrians ALWAYS have right of way'' that they drill into everyone's heads.  So even if they jaywalk and cause an accident, its not their fault, at least thats how everyone seem to think of it as.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 10:03am
sigh, i thought of something else when clicking this thread
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 10:06am
Remind me to avoid jaywalking the next time I'm in Seattle.

On a serious note, it's just another example of how today's youth feels they are above all rules, laws, etc. Throw them in the slammer with some hardened criminals for a few days and let's see if they disobey a police officer again.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 10:07am
Ha, I thought about posting this up earlier.  I think it's being blown up because of the issue last month of another officer filmed 'stomping' on the head of a suspect.  The Seattle PD is in a bit of hot water and are not under a nice microscope.

Honestly though, I feel that he had no right to punch her.... no matter her putting her hands on him or not, it was not the right way to react.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 10:15am
brave cop to take on a group like that alone. jay walking is a stupid thing to try and arrest someone for though. cop could due to gain some common sense from this experience
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 10:21am
touch a cop, expect to be wacked, nothing he did was excessive, two women resisting arrest, dont like getting arrested for jay walking, dont jay walk in seattle. everyone should know that they take it seriously in seattle.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 10:21am
Originally posted by shakazulu12

Jaywalking is a way of life in Seattle/Portland.  I had no idea you could actually even get a ticket for it until I traveled the country more.  Its the stupid rule ''pedestrians ALWAYS have right of way'' that they drill into everyone's heads.  So even if they jaywalk and cause an accident, its not their fault, at least thats how everyone seem to think of it as.
maybe that has something to do with why this cop was enforcing it?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 10:26am
It's a judgement call...maybe the girls weren't really much of a threat but they had already been acting unpredictably so he made the right call.  If not a punch to the face, how else could the situation be effectively controlled?  If one arm is busy trying handcuff someone and a person latches onto your other arm, what choices are available?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 10:28am
Originally posted by Phatman

Originally posted by shakazulu12

Jaywalking is a way of life in Seattle/Portland.  I had no idea you could actually even get a ticket for it until I traveled the country more.  Its the stupid rule ''pedestrians ALWAYS have right of way'' that they drill into everyone's heads.  So even if they jaywalk and cause an accident, its not their fault, at least thats how everyone seem to think of it as.
maybe that has something to do with why this cop was enforcing it?


Yeah, no idea really.  Was just pointing out that people in this area tend to just walk into traffic with no thought at all of consequences.  Not defending the chick at all really, unless a cop is beating you for no reason, I see no reason to initiate contact with one, regardless of how stupid you might think the infraction is. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 10:31am
cops abuse their power and people along with it?!?  wow, this is certainly news to me!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 10:32am
Oh, and another thought, Seattle is known for picking a week or even a few days and totally enforcing the hell out of certain laws.  Anyone who lives up there can attest to this.  They even take out ad's in the paper to let you know they are going to do it.  I remember once specifically they were going after seat belt infractions and actually posted in the paper the amount of infractions per hour in different area's they were going to attempt to write.  Anyone who has ever driven I-405 can tell you about the massive speed traps that get set up, or the carpooling lane stakeouts they do. 

I spoke with a highway safety engineer once and he even said there was an acceptable margin for speeding to them.  They felt everything was fine in most area's up to 84 mph, when the sensors in the road indicated average speeds over 84 mph they would contact the police and set up speed traps until it went back down.  I really see nothing wrong with this, they are just being reasonable IMHO as opposed to nailing every single person going 1 mph over the limit.  Perhaps this week they were after jaywalkers.  If you have been down there, you know its damn near impossible to drive sometimes because people literally walk everywhere but sidewalks and crosswalks.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 10:40am
As a society we say it is never appropriate to physically assault a woman. How does the fact that this guy is a cop change that? To say a punch to the face was his only alternative at that point is just stupid.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 10:43am
Originally posted by ctoma

Remind me to avoid jaywalking the next time I'm in Seattle.

On a serious note, it's just another example of how today's youth feels they are above all rules, laws, etc. Throw them in the slammer with some hardened criminals for a few days and let's see if they disobey a police officer again.


Agreed.
What the hell is wrong with kids these days? I learned how to deal with cops at a very young age. "yes sir, no sir, You're absolutely right sir - I'll be more careful next time, thank you sir".

If you can stay calm, and speak those phrases intelligently and clearly - 99.9% of the time, you'll be just fine.

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Hey, he was outnumbered and you never know with kids these days.  Let a big group of five year olds jump on me and I'll go Jack Bauer on them too. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 10:45am
Originally posted by 808miles

As a society we say it is never appropriate to physically assault a woman. How does the fact that this guy is a cop change that? To say a punch to the face was his only alternative at that point is just stupid.


I think it was Chris Rock that said "I'd never hit a woman, but boy I sure will smack a bitch."

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chris rock said shake a bitch, i sure as hell shake a bitch...
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chris rock said shake a bitch, i sure as hell shake a bitch...


No, he definitely said ''smack a bitch''.  He said he would shake the crap out of a woman though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 10:51am
Originally posted by 808miles

As a society we say it is never appropriate to physically assault a woman. How does the fact that this guy is a cop change that? To say a punch to the face was his only alternative at that point is just stupid.
His being a cop changes that because women can break the law and do physical damage to a cop just the same as a man, but you're right, its not his only alternative, he could've tasered her.
 
He has to get that situation under control as quickly as possible. She's resisting and being aggressive, he has everyright to punch her. What happens when she pushes him and he gets falls because of something on the ground then she proceeds to kick and stomp him, then the crowd joins in, is it ok to hit a girl then?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 10:52am
How come woman only want equal rights when it comes to making money?  Can't they get an equal right to an ass whoopin also?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 10:59am
Originally posted by myke

Originally posted by ctoma

Remind me to avoid jaywalking the next time I'm in Seattle.

On a serious note, it's just another example of how today's youth feels they are above all rules, laws, etc. Throw them in the slammer with some hardened criminals for a few days and let's see if they disobey a police officer again.


Agreed.
What the hell is wrong with kids these days? I learned how to deal with cops at a very young age. "yes sir, no sir, You're absolutely right sir - I'll be more careful next time, thank you sir".

If you can stay calm, and speak those phrases intelligently and clearly - 99.9% of the time, you'll be just fine.

 
It cracks me up that people think they are going to get anything but grief from arguing/disobeying/resisting a cop. Even if the cop is wrong it's not going to do you any good to try and argue with him at the scene. Might just lead to you getting punched AND thrown in jail to do so. And if you make any kind of aggressive action toward a cop, congrats you just signed his free pass to beat your ass.
 
 
I know the cool thing to do is to hate cops, and mouth off oto them etc. But there is a lot of SCUM out there and cops in general have to deal with that scum on a daily basis. If you are not scum then why do you want to make these guys lives any harder or make them deal with more crap Because you broke the law and now you're pissed off that you got caught for it?  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 11:07am
Originally posted by shakazulu12

How come woman only want equal rights when it comes to making money?  Can't they get an equal right to an ass whoopin also?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 11:10am
I think the cop acted appropriatly.  I mean i think those two black women outweigh him.  One girl pushed him, he started swinging.  You shouldn't push cops away.  I am sure if they women were a little more calm, this would have been avoided.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 11:10am
Originally posted by myke

Originally posted by shakazulu12

How come woman only want equal rights when it comes to making money?  Can't they get an equal right to an ass whoopin also?





haha.

But seriously I've asked that question and they all say "you just dont hit girls"



As for the story, if this was "guy gets punched by cop" no one would care. Chick shouldnt have been acting like an idiot.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 11:11am
Originally posted by Phatman

It cracks me up that people think they are going to get anything but grief from arguing/disobeying/resisting a cop. Even if the cop is wrong it's not going to do you any good to try and argue with him at the scene. Might just lead to you getting punched AND thrown in jail to do so. And if you make any kind of aggressive action toward a cop, congrats you just signed his free pass to beat your ass.
 
 
I know the cool thing to do is to hate cops, and mouth off oto them etc. But there is a lot of SCUM out there and cops in general have to deal with that scum on a daily basis. If you are not scum then why do you want to make these guys lives any harder or make them deal with more crap Because you broke the law and now you're pissed off that you got caught for it?  


Yea, I mean, a cops job requires them to basically make snap judgments about what kind of person you are. If you act guilty, or act like a person with something to hide - they're going to come down on you hard.

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They shouldn't have resisted arrest and the girl pushed him and with everyone crowding around the single cop, his life was at threat because imagine her push came with a shank the next time around or a bystander intervening against the cop.  He had to subdue them and it didn't seem he had his taser on him.  But at least he's doing something unlike those security cops in Seattle last time that let this teenage girl with a long record beat another teen unconscious right in front of them. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 11:17am
Based on the situation he was in I'm surprised he didn't put both chicks down harder/faster. At least one guy tried to restrain the chick in pink.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 11:17am
wow...I think the officer should have practiced putting cuffs on quicker so he could manage the situation better.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 11:47am
this is how it is: yes, getting stopped for jaywalking, whether it be in Seattle, Portland, or where-ever for that matter is obviously stupid. we all know that. however, the law is there for a reason which is to stop people from crossing the streets at will for whatever reason and then say... causing an accident, or holding up traffic. further, the person that said that if a PED causes an accident and said it immediately becomes the drivers fault because "PED's always have the right away" is wrong. PEDs have the right away, if I'm correct, at intersections and crosswalks, or something to that effect. if someone is just crossing the road in the middle or whatnot and someone hits them, it becomes their fault and they could be liable for damages to that persons car.

but that's all beside the point. for the sake of this story, jaywalking is against the law and therefore the cop had every right within his discretion and with his duty as a police officer to stop this individual. the fact that she was resisting and the fact that there was obvious physical force being used against him gave him the right to do what he did. granted, punching her may not have been the best option for him but i don't see him doing this as anything wrong. furthermore, shoot, with the mob of people around him and how obviously testy that they were, i'd be pretty scared and would probably want/need to do the same thing. besides... would i have rather gotten a quick punch or tasered/pepper sprayed? hmmm... probably the punch. Ouch
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 11:49am
Only one person got the "2girls 1cop" reference ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 11:51am
Originally posted by Angry Midget Yo

They shouldn't have resisted arrest and the girl pushed him and with everyone crowding around the single cop, his life was at threat because imagine her push came with a shank the next time around or a bystander intervening against the cop.  He had to subdue them and it didn't seem he had his taser on him.  But at least he's doing something unlike those security cops in Seattle last time that let this teenage girl with a long record beat another teen unconscious right in front of them. 


while those security cops in Seattle should have done something more than just sit there and watch... they actually did their job, which obviously is worthless... they observed and reported. i mean, let's just say they actually had to physically restrain those girls, and actually hurt them in doing so... they might lose their job and get charges filed against them too. it sucks how the law works that way. but in reality, they had no real authority to do anything in that situation because the people who employed them didn't give them any.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 11:52am
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Only one person got the "2girls 1cop" reference ?
lol

I am still to scared to watch that crap..


LOLhahahahaha. im pretty sure everyone got that reference.

and there is no way in hell anyone would ever get me to watch that crap. you'd have to pay me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 11:54am
What exactly jaywalking? Is it not being allowed to cross the street of your own accord?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 11:55am
He shouldn't have punched her, he should have pepper sprayed them both for resisting arrest and assaulting a police officer.  I'm a little bit surprised he didn't take that last girl to the ground.  He was obviously being gentle and playing handsie with her.

You resist arrest, you get slammed on the ground with a cop's knee in your back.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 11:57am
Originally posted by Bartleby Badger

What exactly jaywalking? Is it not being allowed to cross the street of your own accord?


Jaywalking is not using the designated crosswalk or crossing at an intersection before the walk indicator says to cross.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 12:02pm
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Originally posted by Angry Midget Yo

They shouldn't have resisted arrest and the girl pushed him and with everyone crowding around the single cop, his life was at threat because imagine her push came with a shank the next time around or a bystander intervening against the cop.  He had to subdue them and it didn't seem he had his taser on him.  But at least he's doing something unlike those security cops in Seattle last time that let this teenage girl with a long record beat another teen unconscious right in front of them. 


while those security cops in Seattle should have done something more than just sit there and watch... they actually did their job, which obviously is worthless... they observed and reported. i mean, let's just say they actually had to physically restrain those girls, and actually hurt them in doing so... they might lose their job and get charges filed against them too. it sucks how the law works that way. but in reality, they had no real authority to do anything in that situation because the people who employed them didn't give them any.


You guys keep saying "security cops" which would imply they were police. They're not.
Those people with the "security" badges/vests/segways at the mall - are nothing more then average people off the street who get handed a walkie talkie and a fake badge. They have no authority whatsoever...

I'm here for the gangbang....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 12:08pm
yea... that's what i meant. rent-a-po'po.
got'em!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 12:09pm
If it happened in Portland I wouldn't be surprised to see it escalate into a shooting.  I thought my friends were being typical reactionary bleeding hearts when they told me the cops up here were roid-raging thugs obsessed with authority, but man, they were right.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 12:33pm
This happened right down the street from my house.....
 
I drive by the area twice a day everyday. There is no crosswalk
at the intersection. There is, however a pedestrian bridge. People
are too lazy to use the bridge and just walk across the 6 lane, busy
ass street. It is not uncommon to see police here for jaywalkers. The city
built an expensive bridge to curtail it!
 
Girl got popped for jaywalking, shot her mouth off, got smacked, and then
got arrested. Did she have to jaywalk? No. Did she have to talk crap to the
cop? No. Did the cop have every right to defend himself after the ''lady''
put her hands on him. YES.
 
I am no fan of the police, but this hoodrat got what
she deserved. 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 12:36pm
see, i had no idea you could get arrested for jaywalking. maybe fined?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 12:38pm
Originally posted by supcadence

see, i had no idea you could get arrested for jaywalking. maybe fined?


she got arrested not for jaywalking but for refusing to give the police officer information for the ticket. or that's what i hear.
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