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  Quote eldolocal68 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Do you consider snowboarding an ELITIST sport-
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i don't use spell check like the professionals...
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  Quote Scorer099 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/06/2010 at 9:47am
I only used it when drunk last night, other than that spelling is just something i learned in grade school. 
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so, i guess grammar wasn't taught in your grade school?
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  Quote Scorer099 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/06/2010 at 9:54am
What is grammatically incorrect about that?
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There is a difference between people who ride snowboards and snowboarders, and you sir clearly fall into the earlier category. People who ride care about what others are doing and how they look to others, while snowboarders are out there having fun, getting stoked on each other, and the overall enjoyment of trying new things, falling, being with friends, and being on the mountain.
 
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There is a difference between people who ride snowboards and snowboarders, and you sir clearly fall into the earlier category. People who ride care about what others are doing and how they look to others, while snowboarders are out there having fun, getting stoked on each other, and the overall enjoyment of trying new things, falling, being with friends, and being on the mountain.
 
agree 100%


You, sir, are so core.
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Originally posted by Alkasquawlik

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There is a difference between people who ride snowboards and snowboarders, and you sir clearly fall into the earlier category. People who ride care about what others are doing and how they look to others, while snowboarders are out there having fun, getting stoked on each other, and the overall enjoyment of trying new things, falling, being with friends, and being on the mountain.
 
agree 100%


You, sir, are so core.
 
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  Quote not-ewrx Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/06/2010 at 10:23am
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You, sir, are so core.

Dewd.  Core is so last year. 

I don't get why you guys are so quick to point fingers at me.  All I'm trying to illustrate is that snowboarding could use a more humble attitude.  All the sudden I'm the asshole for pointing out that "Snowboarders" aren't really "core", there just blessed with good circumstance. 
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  Quote Scorer099 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/06/2010 at 10:27am
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You, sir, are so core.

Dewd.  Core is so last year. 

I don't get why you guys are so quick to point fingers at me.  All I'm trying to illustrate is that snowboarding could use a more humble attitude.  All the sudden I'm the asshole for pointing out that "Snowboarders" aren't really "core", there just blessed with good circumstance. 


Originally posted by Scorer099

Originally posted by not-ewrx



I think it's funny that kids, in this sport, try to portray themselves as gangsters, thugs, hippies, Gypsies and punks.  To me it's all such a joke because the majority of snowboarders are SPOILED shtooking ROTTEN. 




This is the most naive statement in this thread. So because riders like to dress or express themselves differently from you, that makes them a joke? So when walking around your local town and you see someone express themselves slightly different than yourself do you also consider them a joke? You realize you aren't the poster boy of what a human being should be like, right?

Also, since you seem so well in touch with the snowboard world, how can you tell that a "majority of snowboarders are spoiled shtooking rotten"? Oh, thats right, your basing that, again, off of what someone looks like. You are a major part of the problem and i can see why you have an 'elitist' attitude.

There is a difference between people who ride snowboards and snowboarders, and you sir clearly fall into the earlier category. People who ride care about what others are doing and how they look to others, while snowboarders are out there having fun, getting stoked on each other, and the overall enjoyment of trying new things, falling, being with friends, and being on the mountain.


I'll re-quote and post for you to look at.
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  Quote not-ewrx Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/06/2010 at 11:46am
Originally posted by Scorer099


I'll re-quote and post for you to look at.

I looked at it and I stand by it. 

It's the INTERNET.  Generalizations are the shit. 
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id say sometimes.
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to certain extent i would said it is - but it all depends on the individual
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I have to say no.  Like all sports it has its expenses.  Paintball isn't cheap either.
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i agree with scorer099!!!
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snowboarding is just cooler than anyother sports thats all i have to say
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  Quote dave_sgnl_05 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 7:21am
All sports have their segments that think they are above other sports. Skiers who say skiing is better because it has been around longer, snowboarders who say snowboarding is better because skiers are all stuffy and old, snowbladers who.... errrrr... In my experience it's been the beginners and people new to the sport who are the elitists. Most experienced and older riders don't care, as long as someone is there to ride it doesn't matter what equipment they're on. Just my opinion anyway!
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  Quote CurtM710 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 8:22am
This is a yes and no answer. Snowboarding is deff an elitist sport but at the same time there are more people that you can count who love snowboarding and are not elitists at all. I save every dime I have year after year for snowboarding trips, passes, and updated gear, then I hit the mountain and see a group of people with over $2000 dollars worth of gear on and there just there to chill in the lounge (drinkin 4 dollar waters, and eat 8 dollar french fries) and just look good doing it. Every board sport has its number of elitists there is an even mix of broke kids like me in the surfing snowboarding and skating world as there are rich elitists who will always have the latest and greatest gear and not necessarily the skills to back it up. If they have all the cash and time to dedicate to the sport they should be amazing at it. Thanks to Sierra I think the price on boarding is much more manageable but I wish everyone would care about the growth of the sport and the community of people who love it and less about the money factor. If you cant afford snowboarding learn to surf and skate. surfing was born out of pure recreation.. all you need is 200-300 bucks for your first used board and you have season passes for life. skating costs only about 60 dollars and your free to skate all over the place. I wish ski resorts were free or dirt cheap. but its just not the case. 
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I don't think the sport is elitest, but I do think that people of a sport can be elitest. When people already engaged in the sport think they're better than beginners and stick their nose up at them, I think that is elitest.

I've found snowboarders to be pretty welcoming and friendly. To me, skiers tend to be more on the elitest side than snowboarders since they often made me feel like crap when I was learning (still am).

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  Quote balibesnier Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 12:22pm
Pretty much comes down to where youre snowboarding. I'm from south america and let me tell you it is an elitist sport very very much
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Not as much as golf.
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  Quote Superorb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 12:31pm
Originally posted by ddomski

Not as much as golf.


Golf isn't inherently elitest, it's the people who play the sport that make it that way.

Any shmo can buy/rent some crappy clubs and whack a ball all they want.
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  Quote fini Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 2:39pm
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I don't think the sport is elitest, but I do think that people of a sport can be elitest. When people already engaged in the sport think they're better than beginners and stick their nose up at them, I think that is elitest.


This statement can be made for almost anything.. not exclusively to snowboarding or even sports in general.

Ex: someone passes their first year of high school. they immediately think they are the sh!t and that they are better than anyone else in their first year.

or when you see a young driver in driving school, and you snicker at them cause they are "noobs".  I've seen it.  I've had it done to me.

It's stupid to classify an activity as elitist.  as it was said over and over again in this thread. it's the attitude of people that are elitist.  not the activity itself.
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  Quote koji3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 2:43pm
For the average Joe, No. It's all about having fun right?
As for the Pro's, it may be considered as an "Elitist" sport.
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  Quote torpedopilot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 4:18pm
Definitely pricy, but not elitist. Ive been using the same setup and gear for the past 5ish years. Thats about $100/season plus lift tickets. Although last year I got a season pass to Keystone and A-basin for $190... Maybe Winter Park and Copper this year? Is the ski train running again yet??
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I fly to Whistler every year to snowboard.  Does this make me elitist?  I don't think so.  My gear is all at least 2-3 years old, mostly older.  I stay in the cheapest accommodation that I can find.  I certainly don't hang around the lounge eating fries and drinking (supermarket and buy what's cheap).  I have never paid full price for lift tickets either.

Whistler is awesome.  The snow is almost always good and is reliable.  I want to ride big mountains with heaps of different runs.  Which is why I go there. 

There are heaps of people there that have a similar outlook.  On the other hand there are certainly enough people at Whistler to draw the conclusion that snowboarding is an elitist hobby. 

I guess it depends on your perspective.  From me, snowboarding is still not an elitist hobby, but is certainly heading in that direction.

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Originally posted by torpedopilot

Is the ski train running again yet??


What's the Ski Train?
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Originally posted by Razkul99

Originally posted by Scorer099

People who ride care about what others are doing and how they look to others
Posting that with a tag line... "I am just here to look cool"  Oh the irony. 
I hate to do it, but i'm gonna go ahead and drop the "your a noob to the forums" card on you here...
Guilty as charged and noted.  I will try to limit my observations  to those that are not such long-standing, "elitist" forum member.  HA!
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  Quote Scorer099 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 7:20pm
Originally posted by Razkul99

Originally posted by Scorer099

Originally posted by Razkul99

Originally posted by Scorer099

People who ride care about what others are doing and how they look to others
Posting that with a tag line... "I am just here to look cool"  Oh the irony. 
I hate to do it, but i'm gonna go ahead and drop the "your a noob to the forums" card on you here...
Guilty as charged and noted.  I will try to limit my observations  to those that are not such long-standing, "elitist" forum member.  HA!


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well, again, i guess how u look at it. once u buy your gear, it is pretty affordable to ride every week or so.
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I'm leaning toward yes. it's an expensive sport.
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I would call it an enthusiast sport. It requires commitment and can cost a lot, but not so much that it is only for the "elite"... kinda like car enthusiasts... you dont have to be elite to own a classic, just committed.
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You don't get it, that's fine.


I see what you did there LOL
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Maybe at some degree just because it's expensive. However compared to skiing it is by far not an elitistic sport

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Originally posted by Scorer099


You don't get it, that's fine.


I see what you did there LOL


What did i do there?
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  Quote vasnowboarder Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/12/2010 at 8:36am
yea because its so expensive unless you get cheap crap or are smart about what you get .
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  Quote snowmen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/12/2010 at 8:40am
Cost alone doesn't make it Elitist but Elitists do use cost to exclude groups they feel superior to. I don't think snowboarding is Elitist but it is an expensive sport.
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not really in my opinion i mean yea it costs some money to do, but then so does like hockey and most other sports. when i think elitist yachting and polo are more the kind of sports that come to mind
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I was thinking of some really elite hobbies like Bald Eagle Hunting or Gold Eating! Now thats elite! MMMM odorless tasteless gold delicious!
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Gold Eating???
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Gold Eating???


Google edible gold and you'll find tons about it. Basically they're thin sheets of real gold that you can eat.




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Gold eating? just drink some Goldschl├Ąger...
is it just me? or is common sense not that common.
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That is bizzare
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The gold is so thin that it vanishes as soon as you put it in your mouth. Doesn't taste like anything either. Looks pretty though. Used heaps in decorating sweets in india and middle east.
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Oh yeah and I don't think snowboarding is elitist. Expensive yes but lots of bums ride so it can't be elitist. Skiing is definitely more elitist. Especially when they try and ban snowboarders from some resorts still (JAPAN!!)
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  Quote Superorb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/17/2010 at 8:13am
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Oh yeah and I don't think snowboarding is elitist. Expensive yes but lots of bums ride so it can't be elitist. Skiing is definitely more elitist. Especially when they try and ban snowboarders from some resorts still (JAPAN!!)


There are still a few resorts in the USA that don't allow snowboarders. THAT is elitest.
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There are still a few resorts in the USA that don't allow snowboarders. THAT is elitest.


It's not elitist -- it's about tradition for some of these places.  I can tell you that Mad River Glen would be way to busy if it allowed riders.  Trails are really narrow and it's a small place.  Frankly, it' awesome the way it is.  And yes, that is without snowboards.
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Originally posted by Superorb



There are still a few resorts in the USA that don't allow snowboarders. THAT is elitest.


It's not elitist -- it's about tradition for some of these places.  I can tell you that Mad River Glen would be way to busy if it allowed riders.  Trails are really narrow and it's a small place.  Frankly, it' awesome the way it is.  And yes, that is without snowboards.
Mad River states "protecting and preserving our unique ski experience is what our owners clearly want". The owners are all skiiers who own a piece of the cooperative. This is most definitely elitist, these skiiers feel that they are superior to snowboarders and don't want them on their mountian. "Tradition" was the same argument all White and all Men clubs used to discriminate against minorities and women. Overcrowding can simply be solved by limiting the number of lift tickets sold.
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There are still a few resorts in the USA that don't allow snowboarders. THAT is elitest.


It's not elitist -- it's about tradition for some of these places.  I can tell you that Mad River Glen would be way to busy if it allowed riders.  Trails are really narrow and it's a small place.  Frankly, it' awesome the way it is.  And yes, that is without snowboards.
Mad River states "protecting and preserving our unique ski experience is what our owners clearly want". The owners are all skiiers who own a piece of the cooperative. This is most definitely elitist, these skiiers feel that they are superior to snowboarders and don't want them on their mountian. "Tradition" was the same argument all White and all Men clubs used to discriminate against minorities and women. Overcrowding can simply be solved by limiting the number of lift tickets sold.


I couldn't agree more.  If there was a snowboard-only resort I'd consider that elitest as well. BUT, I'd obviously like it though as I've had several problems with skiers in the past. A bunch of my friends that go to the hill are skiers so I'm happy most places allow both.
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There are still a few resorts in the USA that don't allow snowboarders. THAT is elitest.


It's not elitist -- it's about tradition for some of these places.  I can tell you that Mad River Glen would be way to busy if it allowed riders.  Trails are really narrow and it's a small place.  Frankly, it' awesome the way it is.  And yes, that is without snowboards.
Mad River states "protecting and preserving our unique ski experience is what our owners clearly want". The owners are all skiiers who own a piece of the cooperative. This is most definitely elitist, these skiiers feel that they are superior to snowboarders and don't want them on their mountian. "Tradition" was the same argument all White and all Men clubs used to discriminate against minorities and women. Overcrowding can simply be solved by limiting the number of lift tickets sold.


Way to pull the race/minority card out in a snowboard discussion.   Are you serious?? Wacko

I don't understand why it's elitist that a co-op group of owners of a mountain want to dictate who uses their place.   Did you know that MRG offers some of the best ticket prices in VT?  Or that they one of the only operating single chairs in existence?  Talk about tradition.   I would think that a bunch of elitist skiers would want a high speed quad so they didn't have to wait in line like commoners. 

MRG has a great vibe.  As a snowboarder who also skis (and "looks" like a snowboarder with my gear), I have never.. EVER had a bad experience with anyone at MRG.

Having skiers and snowboarders together on that terrain would be downright dangerous in my opinion.

People on this board bitching about ski-only areas is ridiculous.  The way everyone complains about skiers around here isn't elitist in any way?  The name calling?  Stereotyping? 

And again.. way to pull the race, minority card in the middle of a snowboard discussion. 


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The sport has strong elitist tendencies. There's a million Dave-Matthews listening trustafareans in Denver that hit the slope 5-10 a year. Just as many rich kids who fly into Eagle Airport or Tahoe and hit the slopes either with the 'rents or the 'rents dime.

Those people aren't BAD, per se, but they tend to be elitists. Plus, a lot snowboarding requires that you have excess capital and time to get it done--for some people, this just isn't possible. And people LOVE to s--t on other people's equipment went it isn't up to stuff. The website is often populated with 30 something corporate types who vacay here or there buying whatever the coolest equipment out there is. Again they aren't BAD, just elitist (and often d-bags).

BUT...there are plenty of people who are making sacrifices, work shitty jobs, etc. to get stoked up on the mountain. But these people can be elitist in their own way--having weird notions of being "real" or "core" or whatever and talking s--t on all the posers. There are posers who pretend they're good--$1000 gear, $10 game-- and they deserve s--t talk. But it IS elitist to be like "you're only REAL if you work as an instructor or at the Dillon McDonalds."

What sport isn't elitist these days, anyway? Personal coaches in baseball, football, tennis, soccer (especially in America) meant money has hit ALL sports. Maybe, just maybe, basketball still isn't elitist. Then again, I'm a KU fan, and we are elite. Rock Chalk, b---hes!
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