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    Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 2:57am
Hi all, I just bought a Sierra Stunt and Bluebird. When the 2 snowboards arrived I had a look at the board base & to me it seems like they are waxed but as I'm not too good at differentiating between a waxed and non-waxed board, can someone who have bought Sierra boards tell me if the Sierra board come waxed and if they are waxed is it good enough to bring it straight to the snow or should I wax the board ?
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 5:29am
I'm pretty sure every board comes with a factory wax.  My stunt did.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 6:21am
most board comes waxxed, but its highly recommended that you rewax it again anyways, just to make sure it soaks it up good. it wont hurt if you think about it, will cost you like 2 bucks, y not
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 7:24am
I just checked and yup both both did came with factory wax.
 
The thing it is going to cost me A$25 to wax one board, is it worth it as I'm only intending to use the board for less than one week of snow boarding this season?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 7:53am
Im new to snowboarding, Im curious to know if waxing really matter? Wouldnt you scrape it all off after the first run down the hill? I just bought a siera RC and debate if I should rewax it considering ill be snowboarding prob 4 days out of the season.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 7:58am
you should rewax it every season. if you have a reverse crew you have a board with a more fragile but faster stintered base. you need to wax it to make sure it doesnt get damaged.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 8:01am
Waxing does matter for some boards more than others.  You can tell a board really needs wax if the base gets really dry and feathery.  $25 is way too much to pay for a wax, you can usually get one at the board check at the mountain for less than that.  Really if cost is a concern then you should do it yourself, it's easy.  Do a search there are numerous threads on it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 8:03am
You will be fine for a week with what the board comes with.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 8:34am
Yes waxing is important especially for sintered base boards because you want to fill up all the tiny little pores with wax...if not your board will be slow and sluggish.

Waxing is simple so I would recommend doing it yourself.  If you are only going to be on the hill for a few days and it is freshly waxed then you will probably be good.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 8:43am
are there any boards out there that dont ever need to be waxed?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 9:09am
Originally posted by tomek77pl

are there any boards out there that dont ever need to be waxed?

There have been some in the pass but i don't think anyone is making them now. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 9:34am
If your a beginner is it possible a slower board/ less waxed would be better to learn on?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 1:09pm
you want to buy a beginner board and to always wax it will destroy your board if you dont so always wax your boards even if your a beginner or advanced rider
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 2:05pm
yes, wax. if you use the handy search box at the top of the page about it, you'll find many existing threads about waxing and why you want to. sorry i am lazy myself and don't want to link you.. but basically sintered boards have tiny pores which, when you wax, get filled up with the wax, and then what you scrape off is all the excess wax. makes the board slide faster. extruded bases don't have the pores, but wax anyway, just not necessarily as often

remember SPEED IS YOUR FRIEND. i find it is much easier to catch an edge when you're going slow than otherwise. speed and confidence my man. keep that in mind and you'll have a great time
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 2:43pm
so true, a bit of speed makes everything a little easier. When your a beginner you can wasted days of development because your scared to go a little faster (im not suggesting warp 10, or keeping up with skiers, just a little more pace).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 2:45pm
The stunt should be fine with factory wax but the bluebird will probably want another coat after your first day.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 2:47pm
Im pretty sure all factory boards come waxed.
But you might wanna rewax them anyway. A new layer of wax never hurts, plus theres a chance that the existing wax has dried up anyway.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 2:48pm
Originally posted by dr86

you should rewax it every season. if you have a reverse crew you have a board with a more fragile but faster stintered base. you need to wax it to make sure it doesnt get damaged.
1. you should wax regularly throughout every season, not just once a season.

2. sintered bases are MORE dense thus MORE impact resistant/etc than extruded bases.

3. wax does NOT prevent your base from damage (scratches, gouges, etc)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 3:19pm
Originally posted by spenser

Originally posted by dr86

you should rewax it every season. if you have a reverse crew you have a board with a more fragile but faster stintered base. you need to wax it to make sure it doesnt get damaged.
1. you should wax regularly throughout every season, not just once a season.

2. sintered bases are MORE dense thus MORE impact resistant/etc than extruded bases.

3. wax does NOT prevent your base from damage (scratches, gouges, etc)

Thank you spenser, you beat me to the punch.  I thought these things were common knowledge, but my jaw dropped when I read his post.  The only thing I would like to add is that wax does help your base from being damaged by oxidation.  Maybe he meant that...?

I just put these links on another thread, but they fit well here too.
hot wax
Help with waxing
What wax do you use
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To answer the original question (although it has already been answered) yes, the bluebird does come waxed.  I haven't had the opportunity to ride my bluebird yet, but I rode my V-spot with the factory wax on it.  I demoed it the first day, which is why I didn't put my own wax on, and by mid-day, I could feel the dry bottom.  Anyway, most boards come with a factory wax, and some factory waxes are actually okay and can last for a couple of days.  Unfortunately, if Burton used the same wax on the Bluebird as they did the V-spot, you will HAVE to wax it.  My v-spot didn't even make it a full day (much less a week) on the factory wax.  Here are some pics I took after a day of riding:
How the base looked after a day of riding


How the base should have looked


In conclusion WAX YOUR BLUEBIRD
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 3:20pm
Will come with factory wax.  Good for a couple of days, but after that get it done properly.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 3:26pm

It doesn't hurt to rewaxed your board. It is really easy. I already did mines the other day.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 4:53pm

Thanks for the replies in this post guys, considering the shop here in melbourne are charging me A$25 to wax per board I will not be waxing my Sierra stunt as I'm only using it for a couple of days on the mountain this season. But for my Sierra bluebird since most of you guys are suggesting bluebird is a must to rewax even as a new board I will try and find out how to wax a board myself and wax it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 5:10pm
Waxing is a labor of love. I wax my boards anytime the edges get scratchy over the bottom graphic. You'll have increased performance with a sintered base.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 5:16pm
yea u deff want ur board to come waxed..cuz if its not u got to spend mad money for it...and it just wears down so its best to buy a kit or something so u can do it urself wen ur board gets scratched bad
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 5:18pm
but idk if thye come waxed..nvr bought a board on here but most boards that u do buy come waxed already
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 6:24pm
i would say wax it. haha i just use rub on wax right now to try to keep my bases nicer. i need to get a good iron and such for hot waxing, but sierra is out of stock right now. i hope they get stuff in.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 6:26pm
yeah it does, up to you if you want to do another wax job
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 8:53pm
most board do come pre waxed... i think its a manufacturer thing not really up to sierra?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2010 at 9:37pm
Most boards come with a factory wax so you can ride it for the first time out without putting a wax job on it but you can still wax it too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/12/2010 at 12:52am
thanks for the links, in regard to waxing if your not sure what you are doing should you give it a go still or just get it done at a shop?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/12/2010 at 12:59am
it really is an easy thing to do.  basically.. drip on, iron slow and smooth so its smooth all over the board, let it cool for a while, and scrape.  youtube it to see it in action and then give it a go.  its a lot cheaper to get your own iron and do it yourself, especially in the long run.

you can get good irons that retail at less than $40, and buy basic bulk wax for cheap.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/12/2010 at 5:00am
What is the general of when you guys get it wax? Just have to eye ball it or just do it every few weeks.

I found this good article explain the different bases in regard to wax.

http://www.sierrasnowboard.com/snowboard-ski-articles/snowboard-article.asp
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/12/2010 at 6:27pm
factory wax for sure
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/13/2010 at 1:49am
Don't shell out the $25 for a wax at a store. Just head to Kmart or Big W and pick up the cheapest household iron you can get, and then get a block of wax and scraper from your local shop and wax away yourself. That would probably only cost about $30 all together and you will get about 5 waxes out of a regular sized block.

Don't be afraid of doing it yourself, its an incredibly straight forward process, just look it up on youtube or somewhere on here to get the gist of it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/13/2010 at 2:17am
Actually I just saw a youtube video on how to do it, it looks fairly easy so I think A$25 bucks for a wax is kinda rip off don't you guys think.
 
Anyway I heard there are different kind of wax you can get because I called up the mountain yesterday to see if they do waxing up on the sports center and they said they now have "Premium Wax" avaliable for boards.
 
Is there really a "Premium Wax" ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/13/2010 at 3:05am
i just ordered a Sierra RC not sure if i should detune it? I'm at beginner level..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/13/2010 at 7:27am
Originally posted by pwedmund

Actually I just saw a youtube video on how to do it, it looks fairly easy so I think A$25 bucks for a wax is kinda rip off don't you guys think.
 
Anyway I heard there are different kind of wax you can get because I called up the mountain yesterday to see if they do waxing up on the sports center and they said they now have "Premium Wax" avaliable for boards.
 
Is there really a "Premium Wax" ?

How much do different waxes really vary performance wise?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/13/2010 at 7:34am
My Sierra RC came waxed. I'm probably gonna ride it at least twice before I get it waxed. Depends how it feels after the 1st day.
is it just me? or is common sense not that common.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/13/2010 at 7:39am
Factory boards come with a very thin layer of wax, so technically you could ride it out of the plastic, but it's generally a good idea to give it a legit wax job before riding it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/13/2010 at 7:40am
yep..same with me..just got a 151 sierra RC..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/13/2010 at 8:13am
My Sierra came ready to ride, just bring it in after a couple of rides to get a good coat of wax re-applied.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/13/2010 at 8:17am
would houshold irons work just fine really? or is there actually a difference with the waxing iron, like does the waxing iron produce a better job or something? where can you get basic bulk wax?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/13/2010 at 8:33am
Originally posted by sketchanderase

would houshold irons work just fine really? or is there actually a difference with the waxing iron, like does the waxing iron produce a better job or something? where can you get basic bulk wax?


Snowboard (ski) specific irons regulate the heat better and there is little guessing since the dials are usually by temp and not by fabric.  I have also noticed that the ones with holes can hold on to the wax, so when you are done, it drips all over (becomes a waste).  People also have issues sometimes with the holes, making the wax smooth, or hitting the steam button (although, this shouldn't be much of an issue unless you put water in it first).
If you have the money, using a wax specific iron is a little easier.  If you don't, thrift store irons do the job!

I buy bulk wax from the manufacture, but I know the owner, so it is easy to do that.  If you have a specific wax in mind, go to their website, some sell it direct.  Also, some snowboard shops carry it in bulk, you can check there.   Amazon and e-bay are other places you can find it.  Google it!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/13/2010 at 8:36am
yeah it is waxed but you should wax it right away anyways because its better to do that then get base gauges. which u pretty much need to take it and get fixed. Blue bird is good stuff so you are all set.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/13/2010 at 2:41pm
Originally posted by Shadowrak

Originally posted by pwedmund

Actually I just saw a youtube video on how to do it, it looks fairly easy so I think A$25 bucks for a wax is kinda rip off don't you guys think.
 
Anyway I heard there are different kind of wax you can get because I called up the mountain yesterday to see if they do waxing up on the sports center and they said they now have "Premium Wax" avaliable for boards.
 
Is there really a "Premium Wax" ?

How much do different waxes really vary performance wise?
I'm not quite sure the performance wise but it does cost A$8 more in the shop to apply premium wax compared to normal wax. Not sure if it's worth it actually as I though wax are just wax?!
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Factory waxes all last differently however I have found that most factory waxes do not last longer than 1 day. I now wax all my brand new boards before taking them to the snow for the first time as I like to enjoy the whole day. The biggest bonus is you don't have to spend time cleaning the base as it's still new which makes the first wax job a speedy process.
IMO it's worth the money to spend that little extra to get a hydrocarbon wax as it lasts longer than universal wax and it makes your board more controllable.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/13/2010 at 3:06pm
I'm guessing the 'Premium Wax' contains more flourine which makes ur board/skis go faster than the normal hydrocarbon wax.

If it cost $25+$8 to do a premium wax, I suggest you buy the kit online (pity Sierra sold out).

Dakine Deluxe tuning kit + Iron ~ USD150. Buy the wax in bulk as suggested cost another 30-50 (120-250grams). That would last you lotsa times depending on how many times u ride a season.

Averaging the cost to be <$10 initially, and it will decrease further.

I apply hot wax to my SC every 2 days of riding.   

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/14/2010 at 12:59pm
After chatting to a few Sierra staff members aswell you should definitely hot wax your board if you can do it yourself, like people have said the factory wax doesn't last long, only about two days and can damage your base very quickly. Get a mate to help you out.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/14/2010 at 1:04pm
Im using my newly board without waxing.
Im going to be just 6 days on the mountain, so i didnt do it before, but i will wax for next season :)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/14/2010 at 1:06pm
As the others have said the board comes waxed but again it's not the best and u will want to wax it urself before u go up. Wax kits are pretty cheap and easy to use
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