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    Posted: Jul/19/2010 at 1:04am
Trying to spin of small kickers just 360's but i seem to get stuck in mid air at about 180 and cant continue to rotate, any tips?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/19/2010 at 1:07am
youre hucking and/or youre afraid.  figure out how to stop doing it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/19/2010 at 12:22pm
Start your rotation before you get air.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/19/2010 at 12:27pm
You are probably stopping your rotation because you aren't looking in the right spot. When you take off the jump, you want to make sure you are looking over your shoulder in order to spot your landing. Start the rotation from the head, and follow with the shoulders, then hips, then knees/feet. As long as your eyes are looking in the right spot, the rest of the body should follow suit. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/19/2010 at 12:27pm
Wind your body with your arm.  When you jump, rotate your arm and your upper body.

At least that's what I get from all the instructional video I've seen. I haven't tried it yet, waiting for next season LOL

Try jumping exercise without your board? Jump and rotate 360 degree?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/19/2010 at 12:28pm
spenser, maybe you could explain what hucking is. I kinda have the same prob
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/19/2010 at 12:35pm
hesitation is bad! follow through!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/19/2010 at 12:35pm
Hey Joel,

I just got 360s to start working for me last season and I've been through the same problem as you.  You really need to commit when you start going for bigger spins and that means you have to want the full rotation with no chance of stopping half-way.  A really good tip is to just keep looking over your shoulder in the direction of the spin as it will keep your spin going.  Like backflipmasterdana says: "Start the rotation from the head, and follow with the shoulders, then hips, then knees/feet. As long as your eyes are looking in the right spot, the rest of the body should follow suit."

Good Luck!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/19/2010 at 12:35pm
hucking is basically throwing your body into a spin with no control or thought to it.. its just for the sake of trying to spin as much as you can.

a controlled spin is much easier, but its harder to teach your body.

personally i find that with a 360, the first 180 is the most important part.  dont focus on the whole spin, focus on that first 180 where the momentum comes from.  the second 180 is just the follow through.  make sure you have enough air for it... start turning your shoulders as youre nearing the lip of the feature youre jumping off and rising up to pop, and then bring your legs up, do a grab (it helps with spinning) like an indy or something simple, keep your head turned, and once you feel your first 180 completed, youre winding down with the second 180.. follow through with your head, looking where you want to go, and set it down as your momentum dissipates.

but the real key is just practice.  you cant automatically learn something just because you know the "proper" way to do it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/19/2010 at 12:35pm
I have the same problem unfortunately.  I have a really hard time trying to spot my landing which could explain it.  Once I'm in the air I just kind of cruise and my depth perception never feels right so I don't do spins very often due to that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/19/2010 at 12:36pm
With me I have to concentrate on not not opening up too soon before the lip/leaving the jump.  I'll either come into the jump open, or pre spin and loose all my momentum.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/19/2010 at 12:39pm
i like to use this video for help on 360s.  mainly helps with backside spins since its backside, but almost all the same ideas apply to frontside.

so watch makai, the second rider.  if you watch this video a few times, you can see that all his power and spin came from that first 180, and that the second 180 is a wind-down after the first part.

also, it really does help to get a little bit corked.  if you do a flat 360, its a lot harder to see where you are in the air.  as you can see in the video, makai has already spotted his landing pretty much before the first 180 is complete, because hes pretty much completely sideways in the air.  he is also a REALLY damn amazing rider so obviously you cant expect to boost sideways back 3 tails of small side hits right away, but you get the idea.  anyway, if you get a little corked, you can actually see the landing the entire way through the trick, backside or frontside.  one of the biggest things you have to train your body to do for spinning is to look in the right places/directions at the right time.

pop your solid first 180, but keep your head turned, and use the second 180 as a follow-through to set it down.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/19/2010 at 12:55pm
do a youtube search for snowboard addiction and they have a good instructional vid on how to do a backside 3.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/19/2010 at 1:15pm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/21/2010 at 3:23pm
I hate to be a debbie downer but I just want to say be careful. My friend was trying to learn 360s off of these small jumps and just rotated wrong and then tried to adjust the wrong way. He ended up slamming his shoulder into the landing and blew out his shoulder.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/21/2010 at 3:51pm
hit the jump on the edge  you want to rotate to then your head plays an important part in where you end up, keep looking to where you want to go and your body will follow. practice practice...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/23/2010 at 2:50pm
I have the same problem..i think i freak out right before i go for the jump.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/24/2010 at 3:22pm
one of the most important thing that works for me is to visualize yourself doing it, without any trouble
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/05/2010 at 4:56am
COMMITTMENT IS #1LOL....BUT HEAD SPINS FIRST AND ALLOW THE SHOULD AND THE REST OF THE BODY TO FOLLOW. YOU GOT IT. BUT GET THE FUNDAMENTALS OF 180'S DOWN AND YOU GOT IT  YOU GOT IT
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/05/2010 at 5:26am
head and shoulders lead your body. look the direction you want to spin
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/05/2010 at 6:15am
Head shoulder knees and toes...
If you look in the direction you want to spin and ur relaxed, ur shoulders, knees and toes should follow. don't force it. hippie out, relax and it will eventually all fall into place.
I got told I looked like a lawnmower when I started trying to spin: I had almost done the 360 before take-off and bit off more edges than I could chew. I'm still not 100% happy with my steez but at least I don't look like a lawnmower anymore!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/05/2010 at 8:57pm
i just close my eyes and pray, works pretty well.
or just turn your head in the direction you are turning and the rest of the body shall follow
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/15/2010 at 10:21pm
Visualise yourself stomping them. It sounds easy (and kinda stupid) but i reckon that is a massive part of it. Get it dialled in your head, then go out and try it again. Zen man its all in the head
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/16/2010 at 8:13pm
One other thing, it will help you a lot if you start a little carve just before you reach the lip, that will help you a lot starting the rotation 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/16/2010 at 8:24pm
Hit a kicker 2x as big.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/16/2010 at 8:42pm
Always look for the landing, just keep looking.  I've just learnt 360s on a bike this summer. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/28/2010 at 12:58pm
You need to start spinning before you take off and make sure you turn your head and keep it turned the way you are spinning.
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