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    Posted: Aug/11/2010 at 2:33am
I'm looking to purchase a Forum Youngblood but I am not sure if I should get the Chillydog rocker or the traditional camber. I would be riding in both the park and the mountain, but mostly mountain. Which do you think would be the better board to go with, Camber or Rocker?
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  Quote Digitalism Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/11/2010 at 2:43am
If you're riding mountain, you want a regular camber board because a reverse camber is unstable at high speeds.
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Rocker Vs camber has a lot to do with preference, so be prepared for a lot of opinions in this thread.  Personally i would go with the traditional camber version for an all mountain stick.  Id probably change my mind if i was planning on riding a lot of powder.  Again, just my preference.
 
Also, prepare for a giant e-fight to ruin your thread...good luck!
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  Quote foshizzlemynizzle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/11/2010 at 2:47am
i dont really get too much pow so i do groomed most of the time
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  Quote spenser Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/11/2010 at 2:49am
Originally posted by Digitalism

If you're riding mountain, you want a regular camber board because a reverse camber is unstable at high speeds.
its not that simple.  "less stable" than the same board in a cambered version maybe, but mostly its just different, and its 100% preference like everything else.

are you a more playful rider that likes to "butter" around, do presses, float a little natural snow, and have a looser ride?  do you "skateboard" on snow, if you will?

or do you like to use your edges more and carve, have traditional ollies with the feel of camber, and ride a little more aggressively?

if the former, rocker.  if the latter, camber.  thats in general, though.  you could still be either type of rider and like the opposite of what i suggested.
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For groomers, carving, higher speeds; I would go with the camber board

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  Quote dvdngu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/11/2010 at 4:53am
i would try and demo or try out a cambered and rc cambered board. everyones likes are different :) that would be the surefire thing to do.
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  Quote dnbreaks Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/11/2010 at 5:07am
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i would try and demo or try out a cambered and rc cambered board. everyones likes are different :) that would be the surefire thing to do.
Exactly, it's a pretty different feeling riding on a rockered board.  Definitely try before you buy.
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  Quote Alkasquawlik Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/11/2010 at 5:09am
Even if you try out a reverse cambered board, I don't think you'll fully get the hang of it within one day.
 
I demo'd the ELFV last year and was so stoked on it. I rode my buddy's board for 3 full days after that before buying mine, and then I rode mine a couple of days before realizing it wasn't for me.
 
It took me over a full week of riding the board to realize I didn't like it, and that I liked traditional camber better.
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  Quote fishkur Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/11/2010 at 5:11am
I prefer camber for high-speed carving but that is just my choice.  I'll admit that I bought into the hype and purchased a reverse camber board as well.  There are no board demos where I live and I really wanted to try them out so I snagged one on sale here.

One thing I noticed is that the reverse camber boards tend to ranked as beginner to intermediate boards...versus an aggressive camber board that tends to be ranked as an advanced.  There are other factors that affect this, of course, but it's worth mentioning.
On that note, I am expecting to see more aggressive, high-end reverse camber boards in the next couple years.

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  Quote spenser Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/11/2010 at 5:14am
they already exist.  lots of libs and gnus, a few burtons, capita has the black death FK now, theres the agent rocker and anthem ss from rome, the gnarlier neversummers, and more.
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  Quote shwazy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/11/2010 at 5:35am
Originally posted by spenser

they already exist.  lots of libs and gnus, a few burtons, capita has the black death FK now, theres the agent rocker and anthem ss from rome, the gnarlier neversummers, and more.

Of these boards which do you think offers the aggressiveness you mentioned of a cambered board the most?

As far as poster goes...I think cambered if you are spending most of your time on the mountain...but like Spenser said it really comes down to how you spend your time on the mountain and which type of board aids in your riding style the best.  I like the concept of a quiver especially for those looking to progress in their riding.  For freestyle get a board that is suited to freestyle riding...reverse cambered or maybe a softer flexing cambered board...for speed get a stiffer cambered board.  Of course this comes down for those people who are trying to progress.  Advanced riders can buck the traditional conventions when choosing boards to suit their style of riding.
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  Quote CoMtnRider Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/11/2010 at 5:36am
Having the lowrize rocker on my Machete makes tree runs in the pow amazing.  Just that small amount of rocker makes it float beautifully.
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  Quote BudAshes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/11/2010 at 6:51am
What mountain do you mainly ride on?
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  Quote panther Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/11/2010 at 7:17am
IMO

if you have 1 board only - camber
if you have 2+ boards - camber and rocker
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  Quote dohyune Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/11/2010 at 7:24am
I would try Demo and see which board fit you better.

or as you said on the top if don't get much pow and ride on mountain then camber can be better choice IMO.

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  Quote BFBF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/11/2010 at 9:14am
Like your women and liquor, this is very much a personal preference..
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  Quote Marumm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/11/2010 at 9:31am
Chalk another vote up for the trad. camber Youngblood for your situation, especially if there's any ice out.
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  Quote CO_champagne Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/11/2010 at 9:41am
No, no.  Go Rocker.  Floats in the most sought out "perfect" conditions.  A bit more forgiving on catching edges.
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  Quote GOBANANAS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/11/2010 at 12:07pm
i'd go with rocker i use it on park and all mountain and its great but demo each before you buy
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  Quote ryanlambertsaim@aim. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/11/2010 at 12:51pm
if u live in the east coast get a cambered board. if u live in a area with conditions more like the western states the chillydog should be amazing
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  Quote spenser Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/11/2010 at 4:42pm
Originally posted by shwazy

Originally posted by spenser

they already exist.  lots of libs and gnus, a few burtons, capita has the black death FK now, theres the agent rocker and anthem ss from rome, the gnarlier neversummers, and more.

Of these boards which do you think offers the aggressiveness you mentioned of a cambered board the most?
any stiffer mervin with c2, like the lando or t-rice, the stiffer NS, etc.  they still have a feel of rocker, but theyre stiffer boards.  the way i look at it is... a c2 style rocker is more like camber with some of the feel of rocker, and then a rocker with rockered tips and camber in the middle (black death, YES camrock, etc) is more like rocker with some of the feel of camber.
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  Quote lazyman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/11/2010 at 5:34pm
Camber for your style of rides.
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chilly dawg would be buttery fun and awsome in the park to Big smile
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  Quote koyota93 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/11/2010 at 11:21pm
I would say camber might work out better, but it is preference. I demoed a Banana when they first came out on a more powdery day and loved it. The next season I got a Hero. I put a few days on it and decided camber was for me. In the pow, RC rocks, but overall I miss the "pop" and stability of camber. Now I am back to my Rome Headroom and I picked up an Uninc last season, both camber boards. 
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  Quote action_Jackson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/12/2010 at 12:11am
Its not just a matter of camber verses rocker now days, there is many different styles of rocker boards. Check out the sierra video on the different syles of rockers, you may see one that would work for you!

But from your initial description Id guess you would do some time in the park, mostly all over mountain. SO just based on that, id say just get a camber board unless you find a fun inbetween rocker board to suit your style.

People had camber in the park long before the rocker came out so it will still work just fine ;)
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I have a rockere and have had no problem getting some high speeds going and havent found stability to be an issue. It goes great in the park and floats well, for me its more of a feel thing than whats better.
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  Quote spenser Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/12/2010 at 12:18am
Originally posted by joelpaton

for me its more of a feel thing than whats better.
thats the whole thing though, there is no "better," just what each rider likes more as far as how it feels.
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  Quote Peekaboo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/12/2010 at 12:59pm
Just as the spencer said, I think its just mostly preference. They both excell at what they do, and have some disadvantages in some areas. I just bought a Reverse crew cause its cheap.
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  Quote gnarlysnow23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/12/2010 at 1:38pm
I highly recomend a rocker board. It's the best invention since sliced bread. I've been on one for going on 3 seasons. Def wouldn't go back.
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go with rocker.. especially if you will be riding a lot of park
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  Quote Alkasquawlik Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/13/2010 at 5:30am
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go with rocker.. especially if you will be riding a lot of park
 
Did you even read the OP? He said he will be doing mostly mountain riding.
And no, rocker is not specific for park, I ride a cambered board everywhere in the park, so please don't just randomly post things without reading.
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  Quote shwazy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/13/2010 at 7:11am
Originally posted by spenser

Originally posted by shwazy

Originally posted by spenser

they already exist.  lots of libs and gnus, a few burtons, capita has the black death FK now, theres the agent rocker and anthem ss from rome, the gnarlier neversummers, and more.

Of these boards which do you think offers the aggressiveness you mentioned of a cambered board the most?
any stiffer mervin with c2, like the lando or t-rice, the stiffer NS, etc.  they still have a feel of rocker, but theyre stiffer boards.  the way i look at it is... a c2 style rocker is more like camber with some of the feel of rocker, and then a rocker with rockered tips and camber in the middle (black death, YES camrock, etc) is more like rocker with some of the feel of camber.
 
Perfect...that is exactly what I was looking for.
 
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I was torn on making the same decision. Just got my first board today. The last 2 weeks I really looked at camber vs. rocker. I'm mostly all mountian too, but really like the powder (westcoast'r). I had to go camber for my first board and looked for one that would do well in the powder. Landed on the Sierra Bluebird. Fedex just dropped it off. Can't wait to take it out and see if it's everything I hoped for. Will let you know when it snows.
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If you're talking about a 2010 the camber version is going to have more pop, the chillydog main complaint from 2010 on the youngblood and destroyer is that there was not enough pop.
 
Not that you're a pro but if you watch forever they're all riding the cambered sticks.
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how is the pop on a rocker board?
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  Quote spenser Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/14/2010 at 9:54am
cant be stated in general.  just like cambered boards are different, rockered boards are different, and there are lots of rocker designs.  plus, pop is all preference, it cant necessarily be measured.  plus, if you have someone whos trying to pop a reverse camber board like a cambered board, youre most likely going to have them saying that it isnt very poppy.. but if you have someone who has adjusted and knows how to work rocker to their advantage, they might say theyre really poppy.  there are two basic different styles of ollies between camber and rocker, in general.  i call camber ollies where you load the tail and spring off the boards flex "snowboard ollies," and with a lot of rockered boards it helps to ollie more like a skateboard, where you snap real quick at the back binding and use your legs more to get the ollie up, like a skateboard.  really depends on which kind of rocker were talking about though.  some of them still have camber under foot (c2, never summer, flying v, rome reverse mountain pop, etc) that you can spring off of like camber... etc
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  Quote ksmountain Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/14/2010 at 12:06pm
Originally posted by spenser

mif you have someone whos trying to pop a reverse camber board like a cambered board, youre most likely going to have them saying that it isnt very poppy.


Never a truer thing said. After years of riding only camber I just could not figure out the pop on my RC board for a while.
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reverse camber is the future!
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