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  Quote Software_Lax20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Jesus Christ
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"The more you read the Bible, and the more you meditate upon it, the more you will be astonished with it." —Spurgeon
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"Faith is at the root of all true worship, and 'without faith' it is impossible to please [God]"(Heb. 11:6) —Tozer
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  Quote Software_Lax20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/08/2014 at 3:17pm
Luke 6:40 English Standard Version (ESV)

A disciple is not above his teacher, but everyone when he is fully trained will be like his teacher.
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thanks for the heads up on those ^^
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I'm an audio-phile and while I know that not all music sounds aesthetically pleasing, I still love finding and listening to Christian artist. Here are some radio stations to stream if people are interested. Share artist and radio stations you've found that you enjoy.

Boost 101.9 - St. Louis
NGEN Radio 89.3 - Houston
NRT Christian Online Radio
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Originally posted by Software_Lax20

YouVersion app (which you might have downloaded) has reading plans that you can use and go by topic or goals. There are a few on praying that you should try.

I really like youversion


The app I have is called olive tree but I will download youversion
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YouVersion app (which you might have downloaded) has reading plans that you can use and go by topic or goals. There are a few on praying that you should try.
I really like youversion
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It is nice to have a plan, and something that keeps you on track. Having someone to be accountable for it is also very helpful. 
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  Quote Software_Lax20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/11/2014 at 6:22am
YouVersion app (which you might have downloaded) has reading plans that you can use and go by topic or goals. There are a few on praying that you should try.
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  Quote Software_Lax20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/11/2014 at 6:18am
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I was trying to find a new pray a day besides just the internet. That helps a lot sgreen. I downloaded the bible app and it keeps me reading and picks up where I left off.


Look at Psalms. David did a lot of praising and giving thanks to the Lord in his poema.

I pray on my commute to work. It's great because driving doesn't take much thought and I can see the sky and all that He has created. The day has just started and there is so much to be thankful for and pray about.

Keep in mind that prayers should be personal:
Start with thanking God for all He has done. For sending His son for us.
Then ask Him to forgive you. Confess what you have done wrong and ask Him to help make you into what he longs for you to be.
Then approach Him with your concerns. He already knows what your heart desires, but he finds joy in His children coming to Him for guidance and assistance.
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I was trying to find a new pray a day besides just the internet. That helps a lot sgreen. I downloaded the bible app and it keeps me reading and picks up where I left off.
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  Quote sgreen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/07/2014 at 11:13pm
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Prayers are always answered it is just when and where. That is the true awesomeness of what God can do for each and every one of us. Any suggestions on where to find a whole batch of prayers to thank The Lord?!
Not sure just what you mean by "find"ing prayers, but maybe the book of Psalms is what you're looking for.
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Prayers are always answered it is just when and where. That is the true awesomeness of what God can do for each and every one of us. Any suggestions on where to find a whole batch of prayers to thank The Lord?!
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“Worship is the submission of all our nature to God. It is the quickening of conscience by His holiness; the nourishment of mind with His truth; the purifying of imagination by His beauty; the opening of the heart to His love; the surrender of will to His purpose — and all of this gathered up in adoration, the most selfless emotion of which our nature is capable and therefore the chief remedy for that self-centeredness which is our original sin and the source of all actual sin.”

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I would say a lot of worship preference comes from your learning style and music taste. The church I attend has multiple preachers and it is interesting to listen to people talk about who they like and don't like. However one connects a lot of the sermon to history, another sports, and the third with stories.l


I agree completely. That's why a lot of church's will have additional group meetings for youth. They learn differently and go through different things at different points in life. And teens are especially hard to hold attention and keep involved.
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“Truth is so obscure in these times, and falsehood so established, that unless we love the truth, we cannot know it.”   Blaise Pascal
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I would say a lot of worship preference comes from your learning style and music taste. The church I attend has multiple preachers and it is interesting to listen to people talk about who they like and don't like. However one connects a lot of the sermon to history, another sports, and the third with stories.
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Having a favorite worship leader does not mean that you focus on them. It just means that you connect better. They portray a message more clearly or in an understandable way.
If what you're trying to say is that we shouldn't just pay attention to one person then I agree completely. Our minds should always be curious and driven to know more and more, which is accomplished by looking at other sources, looking at other interpretations of the same scripture, listening to what others have to say.
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^ When we start having preferences of worship leaders and ministers, we become what Paul had warned against in 1 Corinthians.
How? What did Paul mean by "of"?

Depending on different versions of the Bible, some translate the "of" to "belong to" or "follow". Basically, Paul is saying the believers' focus was on the leader, when their focus should be on Christ. If we have to chose worship leaders, then we're focusing on the leader, and not on Christ. And, I don't believe how a worship leaders makes us feel matters. What really matters if they speak the Truth according to the Bible.

Any worship leader that does not tell the congregation that they should be worshiping on Saturday is not speaking the Truth from the Bible because the Bible never said to stop worshiping on the Sabbath and to start worshiping on Sunday. There goes more than 90% of your worship leaders...Confused
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Originally posted by lightning80

^ When we start having preferences of worship leaders and ministers, we become what Paul had warned against in 1 Corinthians.
How? What did Paul mean by "of"?
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  Quote Software_Lax20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/22/2014 at 7:40am
That's why you need to look for the passion in which they speak. Anyone can talk about the Bible or Jesus. You have to look at the intention. If their intention is to share the love of Jesus or to love on others then they have a passion for God and his Great Commission. Those who care about numbers and become hypocritical fall down the other path. Empty intentions.

Get to know your worship leaders. See how they make you feel while they lead.
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21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
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How many of these worship leaders fall into the above? If we knew, we'll really be enlightened...Confused
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Dude: first rule of Secret Church: do not talk about Secret Church.
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  Quote Software_Lax20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/21/2014 at 2:59pm
If you want to hear more then check out a program he has called Secret Church. Despite the name (referencing how many believers have to meet in secret in order to build) Platt will live stream himself talking about a topic for 6 hours. If you sign up early you can also get a book to follow along with and has blanks to fill in which actually makes it fun. He also has a variety of books and he doesn't get preachy in his books. His approach is more enlightening. If you aren't very fond of him try Francis Chan as well.
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I'm not sure what I think of David Platt just yet. I'd like to hear more of him. My first exposure to him was the video clip I've linked to below. I thought he raised some interesting points.

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I attended one of the Secret Church events by David Platt and part of the night was education on what was happening in Turkey.
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Originally posted by Software_Lax20

Also, please pray for Turkey. There is a lot that God is doing in this country. However, there is a lot of persecution for those who are Christians and especially those trying to minister and spread the love of Christ.

Pray For Turkey
I followed the link and watched the vid. How did Turkey come to your attention?
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"The best way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race." Chief Justice John Roberts
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Also, please pray for Turkey. There is a lot that God is doing in this country. However, there is a lot of persecution for those who are Christians and especially those trying to minister and spread the love of Christ.

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I don't know where you live but if you're in the Midwest there is an organization called Global Encounter. Ever summer they do this tri-city mission trip sort of thing. Every year they start in St. Louis (at my church). Then after a week of missions work, small groups, Bible study, and so forth they travel to Kansas City to do the same thing but there you minister to a different group of people and learn from new speakers. Then the last stop is Denver where most of the time is spent in multicultural housing complex giving love to kids and people who we don't want to feel forgotten. Every year we visit these people because we want to show them the God really does love them and that we WILL come back and not forget them.

If any of you are in the Midwest next summer, look into being a part or get your church to be a part of Global Encounter.
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“The truth is that if Israel were to put down its arms there would be no more Israel. If the Arabs were to put down their arms there would be no more war.”
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Yet another interesting article. It is a critique of Richard Dawkins' book The God Delusion. What I found most interesting (from several interesting points) is that it is from Antony Flew, who was one of the most well-known atheist thinkers of the 2 or 3 decades before Dawkins, Hitchens, and co. came along and was a(very) late-comer to Christ (81 yrs).

http://www.bethinking.org/atheism/professor-antony-flew-reviews-the-god-delusion

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This might be an article worth reading for some: "The Glamour of Atheism" by Cameron McAllister
http://www.rzim.org/just-thinking/the-glamour-of-atheism/?utm_source=RZIM%20Email%20List&utm_campaign=0941b564a9-Just_Thinking_Magazine_22_12_4_2014&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_ebbd391d89-0941b564a9-44499985

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Please don’t misunderstand me. I am not saying that it is impossible for atheists to lead exemplary and even noble lives. Clearly, many do. What I am saying is that, from the standpoint of scientific naturalism, such behavior is an anomaly because naturalism, devoid of any and all metaphysical underpinnings, can provide neither the motivation nor the justification for a truly selfless life. Such values must be borrowed, or smuggled in, so to speak. In a provocative article, the journalist Matthew Parris, himself an avowed atheist, reluctantly concedes that removing Christian evangelism from the continent of Africa would be disastrous. Why? “In Africa Christianity changes people’s hearts. It brings a spiritual transformation. The rebirth is real. The change is good.” My point is not that atheists can’t be good people. My point is that it is manifestly impossible for atheism to “change people’s hearts,” to inspire transformation and rebirth on its own steam. Those wishing to find the ethical resources for such an undertaking must look elsewhere.

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I spent a lot of time with Chan when I was in College.....good good man
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  Quote Software_Lax20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/20/2014 at 6:04am
I've always been a big fan of David Platt and Francis Chan. Their talks/webinars and books are very insightful and inspiring.
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Did anyone know you can invite Aaron Gillespie to lead worship at your church? How is your guys' favorite worship leader/minister? Post links!

I grew up around a lot of different worship styles and leaders. I played in a worship band in high school and at BIOLA/Talbot. By far one of the people that impacted me a lot about my outlook on Worship was Todd Proctor. He was kind of the frontman for a band (timber) that I spent a lot of time w/. It just totally changed my outlook about what it meant to worship. Now he is the senior pastor at Rock Harbor in Costa Mesa Ca. Solid Man
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Thought I'd share this link to what I found to be an interesting talk:

http://www.premier.tv/media/t/1_e5fvjh33/14419091
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All worship leaders are different. All ministers are different. You can connect on them in different ways. Some capture your attention in different ways. Some communicate better than others. It's like teachers/professors; some aren't good at instructing.

All I'm looking for is names so I can get different perspectives on teachings from the Bible. Or some worship leaders/groups compose the music in different manners.
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^ When we start having preferences of worship leaders and ministers, we become what Paul had warned against in 1 Corinthians.
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Originally posted by lightning80

Originally posted by Software_Lax20

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For when one says, “I am of Paul,” and another, “I am of Apollos,” are you not carnal?
1 Cor 3:4
Out of curiosity (I'm not trying to start anything), can you explain the quoted verse's relevance to Software's statement, in the context of the passage you quoted from? Are you saying he's being carnal in the same sense that Paul was speaking of? God bless.
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  Quote lightning80 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/10/2014 at 3:15pm
Originally posted by Software_Lax20

Did anyone know you can invite Aaron Gillespie to lead worship at your church? How is your guys' favorite worship leader/minister? Post links!

For when one says, “I am of Paul,” and another, “I am of Apollos,” are you not carnal?
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Originally posted by sgreen

Below is a link to a brochure (Healthy, Happy, and Hot: a young person's guide to ...) from Planned Parenthood. I came to it while searching out an article's claim that PP was "suggesting" that it is a young person's right to decide if, when, and how they will inform their sexual partner(s) of their HIV status.

http://www.ippf.org/resource/Healthy-Happy-and-Hot-young-peoples-guide-rights

I think 'suggest' is the correct term, because the advice is implied, not explicitly stated. Page 3 says "Young people living with HIV have the right to decide if, when, and how they will disclose their HIV status", though not saying to whom. Page 5 discusses different ways to broach the subject with others. Then, page 6 states "Some countries have laws that say people living with HIV must tell their sexual partners(s) about their status before having sex, even if .... These laws violate the rights of people living with HIV by forcing them to disclose or face the possibility criminal charges." As I read through it, I felt that the language of the brochure took a highly moral tone when addressing the rights, dignity, respect, privacy, etc. entitled to the infected, but didn't use the same tone or accord the same rights, etc when addressing those who might be affected by a relationship with the infected.

It does its best to encourage the HIV-infected reader to exert their 'right' to pursue sexual pleasure, while minimizing the rights of/responsibility toward those from whom the reader may receive that pleasure.

Ultimately, it's about YOU. This mindset is far removed from the example of Jesus Christ and what Romans 12:10, Phillipians 2:1-8 (esp. verse 4), and other such verses/passages teach us.


I agree. It's not about us. We are to treat others as Christ would have treated them. Hiding information (especially when you know the other person would care to know) is not being compassionate about the other. We have rights but as Christians were are to LOVE one another and put others before ourselves. As cliche as it it, the phrase stands true and always will. "WWJD"
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That is a scary road. 

I would have to do more research but I am pretty sure there have been some trials regarding people having unprotected sex while knowing they were infected w/ HIV.
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  Quote sgreen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/24/2014 at 7:17pm
Below is a link to a brochure (Healthy, Happy, and Hot: a young person's guide to ...) from Planned Parenthood. I came to it while searching out an article's claim that PP was "suggesting" that it is a young person's right to decide if, when, and how they will inform their sexual partner(s) of their HIV status.

http://www.ippf.org/resource/Healthy-Happy-and-Hot-young-peoples-guide-rights

I think 'suggest' is the correct term, because the advice is implied, not explicitly stated. Page 3 says "Young people living with HIV have the right to decide if, when, and how they will disclose their HIV status", though not saying to whom. Page 5 discusses different ways to broach the subject with others. Then, page 6 states "Some countries have laws that say people living with HIV must tell their sexual partners(s) about their status before having sex, even if .... These laws violate the rights of people living with HIV by forcing them to disclose or face the possibility criminal charges." As I read through it, I felt that the language of the brochure took a highly moral tone when addressing the rights, dignity, respect, privacy, etc. entitled to the infected, but didn't use the same tone or accord the same rights, etc when addressing those who might be affected by a relationship with the infected.

It does its best to encourage the HIV-infected reader to exert their 'right' to pursue sexual pleasure, while minimizing the rights of/responsibility toward those from whom the reader may receive that pleasure.

Ultimately, it's about YOU. This mindset is far removed from the example of Jesus Christ and what Romans 12:10, Phillipians 2:1-8 (esp. verse 4), and other such verses/passages teach us.
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  Quote red_baron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/22/2014 at 3:38pm
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Read about it but did not watch the video
The video was not graphic in any way. I can't help but wonder if she'd have felt the same about aborting her baby if she'd been able to see what was being done to her baby.
definitely sad how desensitized culture has become. 
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  Quote Software_Lax20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/20/2014 at 6:42am
Yesterday, while working out, I was running on the track at the gym and I kept looking behind me thinking someone was behind me. This got me thinking:
What if those scary moments when you feel like you are being followed, or those moments when your house, apartment, heck even the woods, you hear a sound of a creek of the floorboards or the crack of a stick, what if that's God's way of letting you know the [B[HE is with us. It's not some stranger or wild animal. It's God. Letting you know you aren't alone. Forget all the scary movies where the person gasps and turns around to some creepy figure over them. Instead, it's your Heavenly Father saying, "Be still and know I'm here."
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  Quote Software_Lax20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/14/2014 at 8:00am
Last Friday my director took me to lunch and on our way there he informed me politely that I was not good enough at my job to keep me in the position I was in. He followed it up by telling me that the company values me as an employee and doesn't want to fire me but would like to move me into a position that they see me a s a good fit. However, he gave me the option to leave the company on my own will if I did not like the idea of being moved.
Heartbreaking as this was, the ultimatum would allow me to be mentored and later the option to be moved back to my old department.
I was given the first half of the week off to think. During this time I knew that I was going to take the ultimatum.

The entire time this went on my fiance found out she didn't get the teaching job she was after for 3 yeas now. Durring a long night of just talking she asked me if I was scared. And my answer, of course, was "no." Hebrews 11:20-40 covers this pretty well. Actually Hebrews 11:6 is perfect for this, "Now without faith it is impossible to please God, for the one who draws near to Him must believe that He exists and rewards those who seek Him." The end of the passage (39-40) are pretty comforting too, "These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised, since God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect." It's hard to see why God puts situations in our life but always have faith that there is a reason and God with God's flow!

Other questions arose during my extended weekend of thinking:
- Is this God's way of telling me that He has use for me somewhere else? (meaning another company or the other department)
- How do you know if God is speaking to you/wanting you to move verus overthinking things?
- Is this God's way of testing my faith similar (but to a much less degree) to Job?

Regardless, I know there's a plan and I will persist in faith and take on what God puts in my way and continue to worship Him.
I am a family man so my way of answering these questions is to approach it this way. I will do what's best for God first. If I am unsure what God is trying to tell me, I pray about it. And if I'm still not sure then I will do what's best for my family while still honoring God by sharing His Gospel. I just have a new group of people to witness to in the office.
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This article irritated me.
http://onenewsnow.com/national-security/2014/05/13/president-wants-transgenders-in-military-says-national-defense-analyst#.U3LW7CiGi7Y

I'm mentioning it here because I think it demonstrates something that anyone seeking truth should guard against: misrepresentation, whether intentional or not. The headline and final paragraph state that our President wants transgenders in our military, but provides no evidence for that claim. In fact, the quote credited to Sec of Defense Hagel only states that he (Hagel) is open to the idea. The source for the article may be correct, but it doesn't matter since they don't provide anything to substantiate their claim.


This article bothers me because of the obvious disapproval in the writer's tone. "so-called transgender".
And Donnelly is obviously against it. But has poor arguments.

I am not opposed to any sort of sexual preference, people are who they are. But I do think that it displeases God but those are battles that the one with the sexual preference is facing. Not something our community needs to force and persecute.
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  Quote sgreen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/13/2014 at 8:31pm
Originally posted by red_baron

Read about it but did not watch the video
The video was not graphic in any way. I can't help but wonder if she'd have felt the same about aborting her baby if she'd been able to see what was being done to her baby.
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