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    Posted: Nov/21/2006 at 6:59pm
Why does some of the dye from the bottom of some base graphics rub off? (in reference to my Lib Tech Phoenix "ship")

Will it all eventually rub off (or fade) over time?
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  Quote evernod Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/22/2006 at 4:26am
Originally posted by faded-a-fool

Why does some of the dye from the bottom of some base graphics rub off? (in reference to my Lib Tech Phoenix "ship")

Will it all eventually rub off (or fade) over time?


what has rubbed off? that's a little disturbing cause that thing has a TNT base, right? My TRS has the same base and it looks "faded" but i don't think it's in any danger of rubbing off. my other lib boards haven't had this issue at all. i think it could just be a loss of the gloss from the infused wax since the sintered bases don't do it.

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  Quote faded-a-fool Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/22/2006 at 6:04am
Originally posted by evernod


Originally posted by faded-a-fool

Why does some of the dye from the bottom of some base graphics rub off? (in reference to my Lib Tech Phoenix "ship")

Will it all eventually rub off (or fade) over time?
what has rubbed off? that's a little disturbing cause that thing has a TNT base, right? My TRS has the same base and it looks "faded" but i don't think it's in any danger of rubbing off. my other lib boards haven't had this issue at all. i think it could just be a loss of the gloss from the infused wax since the sintered bases don't do it.


Well i noticed something when I first peeled off the sticker with all the specs on it. It looked like some of the graphic had stained the sticker, so when i pulled it off there was a reverse version of that section of the graphic on the sticker. I also noticed this when I rubbed a clean white t-shirt on the base and there was a very slight color transfer. Maybe it's nothing and i'm just being paranoid.
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Edited by faded-a-fool - Nov/22/2006 at 6:06am
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  Quote hoon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/22/2006 at 7:51am
have you waxed it yet? (just eliminating the obvious questions)
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  Quote faded-a-fool Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/22/2006 at 8:05am
Originally posted by hoon

have you waxed it yet? (just eliminating the obvious questions)


Nope....just the OBJ factory job that came with it. It's brand new.
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  Quote Mike.M Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/22/2006 at 10:59am
Crazy. i have never heard of this. i think your board is just weird or something...hahahaha
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  Quote evernod Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/22/2006 at 11:32am
i had the same thing happen when i pulled the stickers off mine. i have ridden the hell out of my TRS and it still looks great, so i wouldn't worry about it. you can look at my profile and see that it still looks healthy and happy.

Mike, why are you laughing at his graphic pain?

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  Quote hoon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/22/2006 at 12:28pm
haven't heard of it before but it probably is a sign that you should have bought the version with the naked girl. Smile
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  Quote faded-a-fool Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/22/2006 at 12:34pm
Boooooooooo!    We'll see what happens after a few days of use. I think i might just be paranoid b/c my old school burton brushie did the same thing but the graphics were still coo after a bit of use.

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  Quote Mike.M Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/22/2006 at 1:48pm
i think i laugh at everyones pain...in a good way...on the bright side lib tech without a doubt has the most vivid graphic ink in the business. no other company has been able to achive the same level of brigtness. maybe this is why a little comes off
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  Quote hoon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/22/2006 at 2:25pm
not to be a hater, but i love that this happened to your old brushie from like 1995 and you are seeing it with a 2006 lib.

not hatin'.... just sayin'.
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  Quote faded-a-fool Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/22/2006 at 2:35pm
Geeeez, no words of encouragement.

I like sublimated base graphics better anyways than some die-cut shite anyways. To me the die-cut stuff just looks plain and boring.
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  Quote Dr. Nu-Nu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/22/2006 at 8:58pm
so is the base of the board like a tatoo?
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  Quote faded-a-fool Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/23/2006 at 1:15am
Originally posted by Nu-Nu

so is the base of the board like a tatoo?


I guess you can call it that. I'm not sure if the process is the same.
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  Quote evernod Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/23/2006 at 1:25am
Originally posted by faded-a-fool

Originally posted by Nu-Nu

so is the base of the board like a tatoo?


I guess you can call it that. I'm not sure if the process is the same.


graphics can be sublimated or _________?

i know nothing about any of this, i just know that we have similar bases...

"sublime-to convert (a solid substance) by heat into a vapor, which on cooling condenses again to solid form, without apparent liquefaction."
uhhhhhhmmmmmm?


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  Quote hoon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/23/2006 at 2:40am
ExclamationSublimated or diecut graphics are usually the two ways that we get such cool bases. There is also silk screening but that has kinda gone by the way side and is super old skool.

Sublimation is like printing the graphic onto the base (or fabric, you see this a lot at expos, conventions, trade shows, Point of Purchase displays, any display that is that shiny fabric, plastic stuff). Dyes are transfered into the base to create the base graphic and then a layer of laminate is placed on top of it to prevent the change back to liquid. (which I guess accounts for some slight run off that you are seeing). The dye is transfered using a heat transfer (kinda like iron ons).

This definition is a good one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dye_sublimation

Diecut bases (all the rage and much preferred and much harder to do) entail creating each piece of a base (different colors, shapes, letters, numbers, etc.) and then placing them together like a jigsaw puzzle for the creation of the snowboard base at the time of pressing. This can be a labor intensive process and there have been instances of pieces of bases falling out, but that is rare and that was when diecutting bases was really taking off a few years ago.

"All our base graphics are die cut. Base material begins as a sheet of plastic. In order to create a die cut base graphic, each component (letter or shape) is cut from an appropriately colored piece of base material. The same shapes are cut into the base or background color. Each piece is then put together much like a puzzle. All the pieces are held together with tape while the board is being pressed."

From http://www.donek.com/tech.htm



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  Quote hoon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/23/2006 at 2:41am
ps let me know if i can explain this further. or try to. Wink
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