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    Posted: Sep/20/2010 at 10:49pm
http://www.zetapage.com/speeding-skiers-face-jail-time.html

Here is something which is sure to generate some debate in the community ... as some of you may know I am the Safety Manager at Perisher .... so you may think well Tank is all for this. Not relaly ...

My view is ... it is disappointing that resorts are having to go to these lengths to protect the safety of all persons on the slopes ... I see it first hand almost daily the lack of respect people have for others ... what really gets me is that it is the minority which spoil it for the rest of the majority ... and I think that this article and what is proposes is aimed at the minority. Generally people behave and respect one another on the slopes, but there are DICKS out there and they leave a trail of havoc behind them without knowing and just don't care.

There is also opportunity for more education about how skiers and snowboards use slope areas much differently.

My request of the community - if you are traverse/riding through a beginner area:
* accept they are unpredictable
* slow down for your own safety
* talk to others who seem no to give a toss
* save the speed for the blue, black areas where riding and skiers are more predictable

As many resorts have in the signage "Respect gets Respect" and we will all enjoy our time on the slopes and in the parks.





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/21/2010 at 12:00am
Do you work at perisher?! Cool :) I ride there. Epic end to this season a couple of weeks ago! I love it up there. But to answer you post, yeah ive been wiped out at the top of zallis and excelerator (if thats how its spelt) at blue cow by some wanker doing about 60km/h while i was doing my bindings up.. broke two ribs. AND he didnt stop. I really wished I saw him again. lmao. Anyway, have a good night :)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/21/2010 at 12:20am
I do agree with you on what you were saying and i myself snowbaoard at perisher as well. When you said snowboarders are less predictable than skiers i think it is more that if you ski you find snowboarders less predictable but if you snowboard you find skiiers less predictable if that makes scence . But yeah i have seen some stupid skiiers and snowboarders who have no respect for anyone else on the slopes and they can be a real danger.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/21/2010 at 12:45am
i almost crushed a little girl once, i can see where these guys are coming from
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/21/2010 at 2:47am
i agree that sometimes it is hard to predict the movement of some skiers (from boarders point of view) given they use up the whole width of the run either taking their own sweet time or fast on a BLUE run. Not trying to say I'm good. But at least be considerate and look BACKWARDS before turning to ensure you don't crush into someone coming down especially on a narrow run.

When they impose speed limit, i.e 30km/h. How do you measure that? Is there any device that clock our speed on the run so that boarders/skiers know how fast they are going?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/21/2010 at 3:23am
Sadly I see more of the really stupid behaviour on Australian fields. Never really noticed it as much anywhere else.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/21/2010 at 3:49am
Wow, the speed limit thing hasn't really hit the East Coast yet, only in Northeast, like Stowe and Whitetail, they require certain cards or certs to do flips off jumps and whatnot. I can see where this article is coming from, there needs to be slow areas for people to chill out or begin on.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/21/2010 at 3:58am
Originally posted by kinglc

i agree that sometimes it is hard to predict the movement of some skiers (from boarders point of view) given they use up the whole width of the run either taking their own sweet time or fast on a BLUE run. Not trying to say I'm good. But at least be considerate and look BACKWARDS before turning to ensure you don't crush into someone coming down especially on a narrow run.

When they impose speed limit, i.e 30km/h. How do you measure that? Is there any device that clock our speed on the run so that boarders/skiers know how fast they are going?
 
yeah i agree with you on skiers doing their super wide s does get annoying
but generally pretty easy to overtake though. Unless its a black run, i expect there will be relatively slow people on the run.
 
thought it is the obligation of the person behind to watch out and give way.
thats what i was told at the board lessons.  
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/21/2010 at 4:04am
As a snowboarder, I find myself getting really annoyed at skiers! So often I'm ripping down a trail, only to sharply snowplow to avoid the little kid skier making a slow diagonal across the trail. Of course, it works the other way too; I've seen many a snowboarder cut right in front of a skier without a second thought. It'd be nice if everyone just watched where they were going and kept a lookout for possible crashes. Course I think we'll always have the morons on the slopes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/21/2010 at 4:13am
yea i think its kinda stupid, people should be able to go as fast as they want but should do it on a slope where there isnt many people or atleast watch out for them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/21/2010 at 4:29am
While jail time may seem excessive I believe repeat offenders do deserve it.

The areas are for learners, where people stack all the time. What are you gonna do if someone happens to fall in such a way where injuring them or someone else is unavoidable.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/21/2010 at 4:52am
I don't exactly think it's a problem with very experienced riders going fast, it's the one's who haven't been riding for as long and think they own the place and then are bombing out of control and take you out from behind...I know I've had that happen to me before it sucks.

Also if you read the article at the bottom they said some swiss insurance group was thinking about putting timers on the slope which would show you your speed...lol I don't know if that's a great idea, I can totally see people having competitions to see who can go the fastest.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/21/2010 at 5:10am
Having only started boarding at the start of this season and going up with more experienced boarders, I can understand where they are coming from with the speed restrictions, but jail time is definitely excessive. A lot of more experienced riders use Mousetrap/Boardwalk up Falls as a quick route from Drovers/Tower chairlifts down to Quartz Ridge/Powderkeg/Ruined Castle.. Which usually means they are weaving through people who have never boarded before in the middle of their lesson!

Though that being said, when I have taken a rather impressive stack, I can scarcely recall a time where I haven't had a more experienced boarder check that I'm ok as they've rode past. As for the skiers I have encountered up here, I think they would stab the beginner boarders with their poles if they could, even on the green runs!

On principle, learning to ski or board is no different to learning how to drive a car, give the beginners their space, be conscious that they may suddenly turn/fall, give a bit of a hand/advice if you have the time and show a bit of respect, because to get respect you have to give it!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/21/2010 at 6:00pm
I think they should raise up the fine more instead of putting these hardcore thugs in jail or ban them from the resort after so many fines. Save space for the real criminals.
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