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psubballfan12
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Topic: Wax HelpPosted: Jan/20/2011 at 3:36pm |
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Hi so I am doing the typical drip method while waxing my board and it seems like when the wax drips down on my board it solidifies and turns into little circles. Is this typical or am I doing something wrong?
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carebear
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Posted: Jan/20/2011 at 3:37pm |
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You can use an iron.
Or, if you prefer, go with the Miagi Method...you know, wax on, wax off, wax on....ok, bad joke, I know, sorry!
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hartheffe
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Posted: Jan/20/2011 at 3:38pm |
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i wax my board all the time. i drip the wax, it solidifies, and then go over it again with the iron until its a solid sheet. scrape it all off (or most, depends on preference) then take a wire brush and scrape it. the solidifying into circles thing isn't a problem.
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packfan4ever
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Posted: Jan/20/2011 at 3:40pm |
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once you got the circles go over it with a iron to get it into a sheet then scrape
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Mr8iggins
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Posted: Jan/20/2011 at 3:41pm |
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your iron could need to be hotter in order to turn the dripping into a stream of hot wax. It only makes it a wee bit faster really, no big difference though.
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psubballfan12
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Posted: Jan/20/2011 at 3:42pm |
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Oh ok I have it around like 140ish? I was just worried I was doing something wrong
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gsoccer04
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Posted: Jan/20/2011 at 3:45pm |
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just make sure it isnt going to burn the wax... melt temp also depends on what type of wax and other things
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psubballfan12
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Posted: Jan/20/2011 at 3:55pm |
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aight...I just never saw it become a solid in any vids
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javabean
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Posted: Jan/20/2011 at 4:38pm |
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It's normal to have the circles solidify. This is a pretty good video and you can see the dots turn from a clear white to a milky white. The dots turn milky white when they cool down and solidifies
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eriklim
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Posted: Jan/20/2011 at 4:39pm |
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Work in a warmer environment and it won't solidify so fast. I used to work my board in the garage and it was very cold and it was difficult to get the wax going again.
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getkong
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Posted: Jan/20/2011 at 6:51pm |
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It doesn't matter if it solidifies or not, since you're just going to melt it again with the iron on the board, as others have said.
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Timmay_650
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Posted: Jan/20/2011 at 7:01pm |
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What you are doing is just fine and doesn't matter.
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G_man
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Posted: Jan/20/2011 at 7:33pm |
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After that, scrape it ALL off. May sound weird, but the sintered base pores open up and soaks up the wax when it's hot and at a liquid state. It's not the wax on the board that helps your board.
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chriskot
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Posted: Jan/20/2011 at 8:06pm |
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It is supposed to solidify, then you iron the board and it melts on covering the board.
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richardvoyageur
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Posted: Jan/21/2011 at 12:47pm |
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This is an excellent (the best?) video on YouTube showing every step of the board waxing procedure. I followed it last night and did my first 2 wax jobs to perfection. A lot of the dudes on the net seem to point you in the wrong places (reusing wax for example), but this guy seems to get everything right and explains it perfectly.
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SnapShot
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Posted: Jan/21/2011 at 1:01pm |
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I wouldn't reuse wax scrapings. The wax pulls dirt and other grimy stuff up out of the base of your board, and then stays in the hardened wax after your scrape it off. You can get bulk wax for cheap.
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djinhwan
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Posted: Jan/21/2011 at 1:57pm |
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yea dude just go over it again
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BboyTommy
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Posted: Jan/21/2011 at 1:58pm |
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yeah, pretty ghetto to reuse. hahaha
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jman254
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Posted: Jan/21/2011 at 2:44pm |
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I just rubbed on the wax until it had an even coat, then used an iron with wax paper to melt it into the board. Worked just as good if not better than the original method.
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julius77
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Posted: Jan/21/2011 at 3:28pm |
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Use an iron to melt the drips into a uniform sheet. You should see the wax glare as it seeps into the pores. Wait 20-30 minutes until cool and scrape +brush.
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psubballfan12
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Posted: Jan/21/2011 at 6:29pm |
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hah I did reuse the wax scrapings and it seems like they melted evenly and quicker...This was also on a new pair of skis for a friend so I guess theres no dirt
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mtmatsum
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Posted: Jan/21/2011 at 8:58pm |
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How long does a new wax job last?
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MakeYourselfSD
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Posted: Jan/21/2011 at 10:23pm |
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3 runs.
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MikeD13559
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Posted: Jan/21/2011 at 10:52pm |
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Depends on the type of base (extruded or sintered ) sintered lasts longer.. soaks the wax in more.. Also, it depends on the snow conditions and if U are riding park. |
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seacow234
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Posted: Jan/22/2011 at 1:30am |
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i usually just run some wax on a hot iron and smooth it out from there...or at least what youtube videos and the internet have told me
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richardvoyageur
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Posted: Jan/22/2011 at 8:28am |
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I think most people typically wax every 4/5 times on the hill, as a general guideline. I'm sure there are people who never wax...those are the guys you're flying by on the flat areas!
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kel
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Posted: Jan/22/2011 at 8:50am |
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dont worry, your doing it right, just cover sufficiently over the board, then use an iron to flatten it out to cover all spots. let it sit for a 20min and remove via scrappers
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jman254
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Posted: Jan/22/2011 at 9:11am |
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Putting the wax on is the easy part, as long as its melted into the pores you'll be good. Getting it scraped and brushed requires some work.
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Longboarderdude
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Posted: Jan/22/2011 at 9:32am |
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to melt them
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jhoang6
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Posted: Jan/22/2011 at 4:15pm |
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great vid. everything was great, until he started doing the buffing part...now how many of us actually have that to use? cause I don't. He could have briefly showed us using the scotch pad. but i've seen it in other vids. To the OP, i think your question is answered by now....run your iron over it and melt it into your board...
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bmorse
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Posted: Jan/22/2011 at 7:14pm |
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I always leave my boards inside my house until right before I wax them. Not sure if it helps, but I figure it will keep the boards a little warmer and therfore the base will absorb the wax a little better. When I melt the wax and drip it on my board, it does the same thing as you are describing. Even more so when my boards have been sitting outside in the garage for awhile and are cold. Clean off the old wax, drip on the new wax, iron it on as evenly as you can, let sit for 15-20 minutes, then scrape off. If you have the brushes (which is what I use) then brush the base. If not, use the scoth pad. I wax after each day of riding, but I'll admit, that is a little excessive (and costly). It all depends on the snow conditions, what type of terrain you ride, and what type of base you have as to how often you should wax. There are a ton of great videos on Youtube that take you step by step. Ebay is where I get all my wax and I get it for very cheap. I use Swix wax, CH series, and ebay is the place to get it cheap.
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