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    Posted: Feb/03/2011 at 3:01pm
The middle east is crying out for democracy. Countries like Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, and Jordan are all cracking down on their governments for democracy. What do you think about all the commotion?   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/03/2011 at 3:05pm
build an indoor ski resort with the 1.3 billion we give him each year, that will make everyone happy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/03/2011 at 3:18pm
l believe he said some bs like l would step down BUT the country is in too much turmoil hence he wont be leaving just yet
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/03/2011 at 3:33pm
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/03/2011 at 3:44pm
I agree with the voices saying that egypt is not algeria. That being said, mubarak can't stand alone facing protests forever. Let's see what friday brings.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/03/2011 at 3:48pm
i think its the crazy RADICAL Islam's fault.

im not hating on muslims or any thing, just the extremists
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/03/2011 at 3:55pm
the whole situation is real complicated..mubarak should leave because he has done nothing but cause problems for the egyptian people, people are poorer than you can imagine yet he has a net worth of over $30 billion..

the radicals cause a lot of problems too, there are the peaceful muslims that want to simply live a better life, than there are extremist groups that project a negative image of the muslim people
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/03/2011 at 3:55pm
1.3 billion, it's actually 1.5 billion, and 1.3 billion is in arms(you know us, gun dealers to the world, lords of war), so there isn't much left over for the snow dome...really, it doesn't look good for us anyway it goes...say hello to $5/gallon gas!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/03/2011 at 6:14pm
Originally posted by eldolocal68

say hello to $5/gallon gas!


the US has propped up Mubarak for yeeeeeaaars.  and ironically, the stability in Egypt has been, along with the Saudi Arabia, about the only long term friend the US.

this crap is going to get nasty if this speads.  $5 gas might be the starting point.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/03/2011 at 6:21pm
egypt dont have no oil.
 
And dont see them closing the canal, at least not if they hope to have a country.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/03/2011 at 6:38pm
The entire Middle East is about to erupt into mass warfare. It has been unstable for decades, and this might just be the spark that sets it off.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/03/2011 at 7:06pm
stuff over there is gonna hit the fan really hard...really soon. Alot of people are gonna die from that dictator
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 5:58am
I just hope that they dont ransack the museum thats on that square with all of king tuts stuff in it. That would be a real loss.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 8:03am
The army is stepping in now. It should be interesting.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 8:36am
Wow this was going to be mess from the start i think hopefully they see some ending soon 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 8:38am
I heard they cut off internet there...HORRIBLE
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 8:55am
OH NOES not the internets Shocked.

Interesting how stopping facebook and twitter snowballed things
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 8:57am
Yeah, it was all pretty peaceful until someone could send out a tweet about how drunk they were. 

In all seriousness, this shits going to get way bad.  I'm glad I live 2 miles from work and have an ocean between us.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 10:29am
Zakk i agree with you. I would hate to be involved in all that mess.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 11:26am
I thought we invaded Iraq so to set an example for the rest of the middle east to form democracies. Now that its happening, its bad? As long as nothing happens to the canal down there, it wont faze me at all. Nothing really comes from Egypt, only thru Egypt.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 11:51am
if that many are in revolt...there must be a good reason. from what i hear he basically been in power forever and messed up everything...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 11:51am
I'm wondering why these women still rock the drape that covers up themselves. All those women should be revolting against that and let the men revolt against a new political leader. What were all these people doing before this protest? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 12:05pm
im all for democracy and everything and if a revolt is what needs to happen then thats all good, but what in concerned about is who is gonna come in to power after the revolt. Because the nations gonna get pretty weak and the radicals could make a move, and if that happens then oil is gonna sky rocket
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 1:27pm
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that right there is pure gold.  nice. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 1:49pm
gas better not be going up to 5 bucks. its crazy expensive in Canada already
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 2:22pm
Incredible amounts of ignorance pouring from this thread. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 2:35pm
Giftedhands, this is not what i anticipated this thread to be like. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 3:14pm
I know. Sad that it took all of one response to get there though. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/05/2011 at 8:39am
Look at what the shtook is going on over there.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/05/2011 at 8:53am
Originally posted by oddman

egypt dont have no oil.
 
And dont see them closing the canal, at least not if they hope to have a country.


They are just a major export center of oil, so it is very likely to effect the prices.
I think they are setting up riots for the whole middle east to riot. In the next year, I'm expecting a bunch of countries to try and overthrow their governments.
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All I can say is wow to some of the responses. Believe me I laughed with some of them but I hope people realize the magnitude of this situation. This is a critical moment for not only Egypt but particularly the US and Israel as well. Egypt has an incredibly powerful army (particularly relative to it's size) because that's how we (the US) wanted them to be. Now a major stabilizing force in the middle east will likely go in the opposite direction. And that makes for a bad situation for both sides.

Egypt's top sources of revenue are Tourism (and no Vector did not steal the pyramids) and the canal (not the one in Panama). The Brotherhood and similar groups have a single focus. I hate to break it to you it's not a free market or democracy. And i'm afraid that will be even more evident to our 3D-TV facing eyes and our headphone covered ears. $5 gas will be the least of our worries in the long run.

You ever seen that movie "Idiocracy"?

No wonder we're ranked near the bottom on the world education list. "We're number 30, we're number 30...", proudly chant the Americans.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/05/2011 at 10:14am
at least there seems to be a major paradigm shift, where countries seem to be interesting in a democratic society from the ground-level on up, which i see as very positive.  this is very different then how we have previously been forcibly removing dictatorships and having to rebuild from there.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/05/2011 at 10:24am
Originally posted by SoCalRyder

All I can say is wow to some of the responses. Believe me I laughed with some of them but I hope people realize the magnitude of this situation. This is a critical moment for not only Egypt but particularly the US and Israel as well. Egypt has an incredibly powerful army (particularly relative to it's size) because that's how we (the US) wanted them to be. Now a major stabilizing force in the middle east will likely go in the opposite direction. And that makes for a bad situation for both sides.

Egypt's top sources of revenue are Tourism (and no Vector did not steal the pyramids) and the canal (not the one in Panama). The Brotherhood and similar groups have a single focus. I hate to break it to you it's not a free market or democracy. And i'm afraid that will be even more evident to our 3D-TV facing eyes and our headphone covered ears. $5 gas will be the least of our worries in the long run.

You ever seen that movie "Idiocracy"?

No wonder we're ranked near the bottom on the world education list. "We're number 30, we're number 30...", proudly chant the Americans.


The understated brilliance of Idiocracy is lost on most people. 

The situation in Egypt is going to be an interesting one as the potential for further destabilization of the region is extreme.  Combine that with our positions with Isreal and Iran eroding daily. 
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mubarak should step down before the bloodshed escalates.

as for "the army stepping in" they're not connected with mubarak and operate as a separate entity. when they first entered cairo, they were CHEERED and the mobs were generally responsive to their demands "eg. obey curfew so we can catch bad guys at night". so far, the military has generally made attempts to keep things humane like form barriers between demonstrators and police by making a blockade to stop projectiles with APCs.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/05/2011 at 11:04pm
This thing in Egypt is making the stock market go crazy for the past week....haha
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/06/2011 at 7:32am
Their army isnt winning the US any bonus points either. They are displaying the tanks we sold them (m1a1's and m113's i think). Using our military hardware to quell their resistance does not help our image over there at all.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/06/2011 at 8:33am
americans here do not understand the situation in egypt..the people there live on a daily bread supply, unemployment is a major concern for the entire country..the revolt is being led by youth in egypt because they go to college, men are forced to serve in the military and once released from service, they enter a country that has no jobs available..

people worldwide do not understand the hardships the egyptian people have suffered under mubarak..the government has a long history of a brutal secret police force that respects NO civil rights..hundreds if not thousands of people have been illegally detained with no charges against them..in mubaraks last "free" election, the man running against him was arrested and sentenced to 5 years in jail..no trial or chance to explain himself, he was simply arrested and detained because he spoke out against mubarak.

the american government supports mubarak because he was able to hold peace between isreal and egypt, and the only reason he did that was to continue receiving aid from the US..

mubarak was an army man, a man of not any significant wealth until he took over the country..in the 30 years he was president, he amounted $30 billion to his name..how was a man worth nothing able to gain so much wealth? extreme corruption!

something americans know little about is the life of the coptic people under mubarak..copts are egyptian christians whose ancestry dates back to the dawn of christianity..coptic people are the true descendants of the ancient egyptians..they have been persecuted since the arabs took control of egypt, and under mubaraks rule, nothing was done to stop these persecutions..

on the night of new years there was a coptic service being held at saints church in alexandria egypt, a few minutes into the new year there was an explosion outside the church that killed 22 young coptic people..mubarak released a statement saying they will look into these attacks, but that in the same speech he dismissed the acts as an outside form of terrorism..in other words he simply blamed muslims from another country attacking coptic people in an attempt to disrupt egyptians foundation..

this narrow-minded approach is what has led egypt to what it is today..the US has given egypt a lot of money in hopes that it would remain the stable centerpiece in the middle east, under mubarak..think about it, how much public interest was there in the tunisia uprising? how many times had president obama addressed the situation?

then compare that to egypt..nearly every day of the uprising there is another white house rep speaking about the situation, obama himself has spoken twice on the issue, twice in the last 12 days..this revolution is being led by the youth of egypt, copts and muslims, all in a hope for a better life..americans need to open their eyes and look at the broad picture..

if anyone thinks internet shut down and the lot could never happen here, think again..obama enacted a bill allowing the US government power to monitor and possibly suspend internet activity if they felt the need..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/06/2011 at 8:36am
as for the people with the buckets on their heads, or bread as a helmet, take this as an example of how poor these people are, they do not even have money to get a hardhat or real helmet..
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JUST KIDDING. army probably sucks
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/02/201126145542683316.html
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JUST KIDDING. army probably sucks
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/02/201126145542683316.html


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/06/2011 at 3:21pm
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egypt dont have no oil.
 
And dont see them closing the canal, at least not if they hope to have a country.


Well they have plently of turmoil.
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Turmoil that hopefully settles without major casualties. 
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