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Direct Link To This Post Topic: Dakine/Swix iron - Surprise, Surprise
    Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 5:21pm
For Christmas 2010 I asked for and got :) a snowboard tuning/waxing iron.  Well, I actually got two of them.  I got the Dakine iron, and a Swix (T75 FX) iron.

So tonight I go to take a look at the differences between them to figure out which one I want to keep, and guess what I find??  THEY ARE THE EXACT SAME IRON!!  The only difference is the name stamped on it.
Don't believe me? Check out the Operating Instructions that came in the box.  Same model # and everything, which of course means it's made by the same manufacturer.  Just a heads up!!! I'm not sure how often this type of thing happens.  Just because something has a "better" brand name on it doesn't mean it is any different!!  The Swix iron generally retails for $5 more.

I thought this was funny, so I had to share it with you all.  Cheers!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 5:23pm
hahahh that is funny but that actually happends alot with diffrent gear. alot of companies try to copy things off others. any way do you wanna sell your extra iron
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 5:25pm
I'm planning on taking it back to REI, but if you want to buy it PM me an offer price.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 5:42pm
It's called "Private Label" products. Most large wholesalers do this.

The Sierra Crew is just a 2009 Burton Custom after all. (although not a good example)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 6:10pm
Thanks for the heads up. I have that dakine iron, i used it a couple times. it works fine.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 6:55pm
I have a $6 proctor silex iron from walmart.  works FINE.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 7:02pm
that's funny, but since so many of them look the same, I can't say I'm shocked
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 7:28pm
They basicaly used the same manufacturer and then relabeling it as their product. This practice is actually pretty common.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 7:30pm
wow! thanks for the heads up.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 7:44pm
welcome back to the reality of mass production. you will be surprise how many products out there are the exact same thing with different name on it.
hmmm... Now What???   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 7:51pm
Not uncommon at all

Many of Dakine's products aren't made my Dakine.

I'm sure you know this, but like 90% of skateboard brands all buy their boards from the same factory.

Same goes from clothing brands, they just design the logos then pay someone to print it on some shirts for them.

This is the case with tons of snowboard brans now too, I'm sure DC and Volcom snowboards are both made by some existing manufacturer.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 8:08pm
Originally posted by SLUSHIE

Not uncommon at all

Many of Dakine's products aren't made my Dakine.

I'm sure you know this, but like 90% of skateboard brands all buy their boards from the same factory.

Same goes from clothing brands, they just design the logos then pay someone to print it on some shirts for them.

This is the case with tons of snowboard brans now too, I'm sure DC and Volcom snowboards are both made by some existing manufacturer.
theres a huge difference between being made in the same factory and being a re-stamped existing product.

completely wrong about the skateboard thing.  yes there are factories that produce multiple brands just like with snowboards, but that doesnt mean they are all the same product.  and often you will just see brands under the same distribution being relatively the same.. like AWS and habitat, or all the kayo brands, or all the deluxe brands.  with snowboards, take elan for example.  they produce a ton of different brands but that doesnt mean theyre the same boards.  think of it as going into a sandwich shop (thank johan @ capita for this analogy)... you go in, same shop, but you pick your ingredients and how you want it made.  rome, capita, and more are made at elan, but they all do their own thing.

volcom was made at GST in austria but is now made at the signal factory in california.  that doesnt mean theyre signal boards, it means theyre made there.

i forget where DC is made but theyre not just rebranded pre-existing boards.

re-stamping something like an iron or tshirt is totally different than the way it is with boards/etc.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 8:40pm
Originally posted by Spenser W.

I have a $6 proctor silex iron from walmart.  works FINE.


I've been looking for a cheap non-made-for-boarding iron, is that just a generic travel iron? What is that iron originally made for?

btw nice catch. pretty funny how they are the same iron. thanks for sharing
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/05/2011 at 2:51am
Heck, no one was better at it than the American automakers.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/05/2011 at 4:43am
Lexus - Toyota
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Its not the American automakers, its the American people gullible enough to think they are getting a different car.


My $6 iron from the made in china store works great!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/05/2011 at 4:50am
its all about the 6 dollar irons from walmart
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/05/2011 at 10:45am
must agree with the walmart iron crowd...

works fine
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/05/2011 at 10:50am
I got the dakine tuning kit...I feel like it might be a little overprices but it gives you everything you need and I like it. Pretty sure its the same iron that robnezz posted too
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/05/2011 at 12:29pm
take a look at burton and dakine board locks among others. EXACT same lock, just different colors ect., but some are more expensive than others. Not surprising at all, happens with a lot of products
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/05/2011 at 2:03pm
I think it's funny that the skier one cost more.  Stupid yuppies and their bags of money. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/05/2011 at 2:06pm
Get a crappy iron and save some money. Ya hippie.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/05/2011 at 6:14pm
on one hand i have to agree that the cheapo dept store non-steam iron works well, but on the other hand, I still want to get an actual wax iron, as my "regular" iron is not very flat or true on the bottom surface. kinda makes it a challenge to spread the wax out. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/06/2011 at 2:29am
6$ iron users BEWARE! Those cheapo irons are known to fluctuate in temp. to extreme degrees. To each his/her own really, and don't get me wrong, I certainly skimp where/when I can, but using a non-waxing iron is super risky. I just can't see where saving twenty or so dollars is worth risking burning your base on a board that's at least a couple hundred if not more, and then having to go pay for a base grind. Spend a little extra for something with a temp. setting and save yourselves a major headache in the end. Just my $.02.

                                                                                                                       
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/06/2011 at 4:30am
nice to know. but either wya, l think lm the cheap type that would just buy a clothing iron 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/06/2011 at 4:40am
now you guys know that brand isn't everything. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/06/2011 at 4:42am
Originally posted by jenni

now you guys know that brand isn't everything. 


yep and more expensive is not always better
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/06/2011 at 4:49am
I have a Swix iron, so basically I have a Dakine iron. Or,       Is it the oposite??? Oh well, either way, I've got an iron that works. I'm sure I overpaid, but it works. I wonder how many other products I have that are stamped as one thing, but really another.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/06/2011 at 5:03am
Have to agree with spenser here. It's pretty common in the world of any kind of electronics for things to be sourced from a single manufacturer. Especially small items like those irons. Also for individual components, like the display in many LCD TV's. The display panel in many TV's is the same, but the components around them may be of higher/lower quality.

But when it comes to things like boards and such, the same manufacturing facility often houses multiple manufacturers. Heck, the same factory in China that makes iPhones and Macbooks probably makes non-Apple products, too.

As for the T-shirt example, I can say from experience that Analog uses a different cut (longer) and material that is much more shrink-resistant than most clothing companies.

While many companies will cheap out on things, it pays to know which ones don't. There aren't hard-and-fast rules to manufacturing.

Originally posted by spenser

theres a huge difference between being made in the same factory and being a re-stamped existing product.

completely wrong about the skateboard thing. yes there are factories that produce multiple brands just like with snowboards, but that doesnt mean they are all the same product. and often you will just see brands under the same distribution being relatively the same.. like AWS and habitat, or all the kayo brands, or all the deluxe brands. with snowboards, take elan for example. they produce a ton of different brands but that doesnt mean theyre the same boards. think of it as going into a sandwich shop (thank johan @ capita for this analogy)... you go in, same shop, but you pick your ingredients and how you want it made. rome, capita, and more are made at elan, but they all do their own thing.

volcom was made at GST in austria but is now made at the signal factory in california. that doesnt mean theyre signal boards, it means theyre made there.

i forget where DC is made but theyre not just rebranded pre-existing boards.

re-stamping something like an iron or tshirt is totally different than the way it is with boards/etc.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/06/2011 at 9:38am
oh wow. thats hilarious....are they made in china too?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/06/2011 at 10:44am
i can promise my $7 iron from target can do the same level of job as both of those.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/06/2011 at 10:52am
Originally posted by gnujibs

i can promise my $7 iron from target can do the same level of job as both of those.


no it doesn't. regular iron doesn't maintain the heat level. instead it rises to x degree, then turns off and turns back on after x degree drop. while a boarding iron maintains the degree and doens't turn off to maintain it
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