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chillman
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Topic: The Official Union Bindings ThreadPosted: Feb/07/2011 at 6:31pm |
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This is the official union bindings thread, not the franken thread that can be found here -->http://www.trusnow.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=38972&PID=827007
This is where you can discuss different binders, problems without having to start 80 billion new threads. Right now im rocking some 2011 blue forces and can say they are amazing...
Heres some pics of whats too come in 2012
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L to R- Superpros, Team, Danny Kass, Capita Union Collab
More Contacts
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Force MC
DLX (i think)
Some more....
MC: Danny Kass Pro Model: Atlas Team: Ladies Flite: Holden + Union collaboration: More padding in the straps of the Force: Ultrafear: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybae some more coming soon
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Posted: Feb/07/2011 at 8:18pm |
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I have 2011 Contacts. They're amazing, to say the least. Only complaint i have so far is that the binding straps are a little big. It's easy to fix though, the straps are highly adjustable.
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jeese.. these color waves are really dope. i already cant wait for next season gear.
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the prices on all the tags are in yen. japan? sweet
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tomek77pl
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Posted: Feb/07/2011 at 8:46pm |
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OMG i wannna cry right now after i saw the 2012 forces i wish i didnt get mine 2011 cyan forces :(
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Posted: Feb/07/2011 at 8:47pm |
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this is exactly why companies dont like their stuff leaked early, granted its no surprise after SIA.
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Posted: Feb/07/2011 at 8:55pm |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQe-4x3xO0s
great review what you guys think of contact pro vs burton cartel? l'm more of a all mountain, no park |
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Thats a no brainer for me. Go with the Cartels if the park isnt part of your game.
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i'm thinking of swapping from cartels to contact pros but i ride everything including park and pipe. has anyone ridden both? and if so are the contact pros as adjustable as the cartels? and is the flex similar?
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spenser
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Posted: Feb/07/2011 at 9:19pm |
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think of it this way.... gigi has ridden a plethora of different bindings over the years.. p1s, triads, and cartels most recently (before union), and when he designed his own union binding, its the contact pro.. take it for what it's worth.
the real answer is that there is no answer, it's all preference. you might like the contact pro more, you never know.. but most likely they are a slightly less aggressive binding because of the baseplate design.. then again we all know how gigi rides, so obviously they work..
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jeez, those gray things go on a battleship? S.S.Force, coming to a theater of war near you.
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anyone know when the 2012 go on sale?
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on sale? or for sale? they will be for sale this fall, and they will be on sale in over a year.
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getupk3v
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thanks spenser, yeah i was thinking the same. i've rode cartels for six years but being the gigi fan boy that i am, i figured if he designed it, it must be the sheeet.
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yeah sorry for sale
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tcsmthop
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hey spenser,you know how the atlas compares to the forces or sl? thanks This is all ive heard about them, "We have a new family of bindings coming out- the Atlas bindings. They are a natural progression of the Force Family it’s at a good price point of $239. It is designed for that Force-type of customer who wants to ride everything with a solid binding."
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its just supposed to be a "new" force type binding. i wouldnt spend too much of your time thinking about it, just give em a try. im betting they ride pretty similar.
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Kinding thinking that same thought, its not that i don't like the blue its just the new indoor fk is red, wouldn't look as cool as the red forces on it.
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yea my board would look sick with the green forces. I always wanted to get green forces but i couldn't find a pair before i went snowboarding that weekend so i just went out and bought the blue 2011 forces
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Boogeyman24
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i'm digging the new color schemes. i'm still riding my 09 forces and am just starting to have trouble with the ankle strap screw coming loose, otherwise those things have been great.
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+1, but too bad I'm not going to be buying anything new for a while...
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Thanks Riley for sure gonna get the green forces they look so boss. Well its a good time to start saving up.
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Posted: Feb/08/2011 at 9:01am |
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Have they improved the toe strap yet? Have they started sending screws that are actually long enough and don't have to be tightened after every couple runs?
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Posted: Feb/08/2011 at 9:05am |
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Have you used your eyes to look at any of the new ones?
I've been using Unions for 6 years and have never once had my mounting screws come loose.
Forces are made by Union, not Rome, silly.
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Posted: Feb/08/2011 at 9:12am |
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All Unions have a brand new toe strap, even thought, most people who couldn't get them to work right, just didn't put them on correctly. In any case, they are new and have less fitting issues. As for screw, I worked the Capita/Union demo yesterday and didn't have a single stap getting lose issue. As Spencer Said, the Atlas its replacing the Data and is basically a lighter version of the force with their Stage 3 base.
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I worked with the union rep many times trying to get the strap to work right and it always slipped, they replaced my buckles, tried to tell me to adjust the toe strap placement(which there was only one spot) and the placement on the boot but still they slip. Hopefully they will return the ones i have or replace my toe straps with the new ones so I dont have to spend an extra 40 bucks for burton toe straps that work with my boot. Personally i think its because of the material of the 2009/10 32 ultralights but if the burton toe straps work then these should too.
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Sorry to say I've had the same issue with my ankle strap screw coming loose after a couple runs as well. I have last years Sierra/Union Contacts. I just make sure I check it a few times and re-tighten them...other than that I love the binding. It may just be a factory defect in the screw...I could probably try to get the screw and sleeve replaced and see what that does.
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From what I remember, the Burton toe straps are shaped completely different than the Union ones. The burtons have a defined top and front piece that's sewn together at an almost 90 degree angle. Saying that because those work for you and then the Unions should too is not the same.
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IOfractal
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Just use some blue loctite and you will be just fine
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IOfractal
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I was talking about the ultra cap straps not the cheezy ones your talking about
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Is he referring to the mounting disc screws or the ankle strap screws? Since he doesn't specify, I targeted the mounting hardware. However, when it comes to the ankle strap, I don't think the length would be what's causing it. When my ankle strap screw is tightened in all the way, you can actually see the end of it poking out the other side of the "nut" on the heelcup. If it's coming loose, I'd suggest putting a small drop of loctite or super glue on there.
I don't disagree with any of you having certain small issues with the bindings, nor am I saying that Union is the perfect binding that was sent from the heavens to solve anybody's every problem. But, if you get proactive and do something about them it's pretty easy to solve them. You don't buy a car and expect it to just run forever with no maintenance whatsoever, do you? Stuff's gonna wear out/wiggle loose eventually.
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I had issues with the toe straps slipping off on my old boots (08 ion's) because the toe was so smooth/rounded. The old force toe strap really needs some sort of ridge to catch on which those boots didn't have. My 2010 Ions actually have a ridge on them so the straps catch a bit and work perfectly fine.
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i'd be careful when it comes to using loctite.... i'm pretty sure it will void out the warranty... |
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Meaning these?
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![]() Having not had personal experience on the Burton straps, but having experience on three different Union straps, I can totally vouch for the cored out version (similar to the Burton above) as being far superior to the other two. If you can get your hands on the toe straps from last year's Contact SL (see below) or this year's Flite bindings, I'd do it. I can only assume you'd have a much better experience.
Contact SL w/ cored out toe straps.
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IOfractal
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Yep thats exactly what i was talking about
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Yeah i am just waiting for a response from Union to see where i will go. I really love the bindings but the toe straps are inferior, if they will change them out for me or return them I will get something with the cored out strap.
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I ended up getting a pair of the Contact SL's from a buddy, parted them out, and resold them. I kept the highbacks and the cored out toe straps. Seriously, they're so nice. One piece of the strap goes on top of my toes, the other right in front, and you can cinch the crap out of them. There's no material over the top that hinders either piece from getting as snug as a bug in a rug. It definitely the best one I've used in my riding days, including Ride EX convertibles, the Burton capstrap like I described before, and the three different Union ones.
I have had my toe straps slip up a few times, but it's because my feet are stupid big and my toes drag when I euro-carve. Other than that, they seem to stay put rather nicely. Maybe the big boot keeps them stretched out really tight and doesn't allow them the chance to move around. Either way, I personally don't think there will be any complaints from this upcoming lineup, at least as far as straps are concerned.
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Anybody ride using M6 Conversion kit on a burton ICS board? I have a bunch of 2010 Burton's and i was wondering if the M6 union conversion kit will also work on an ICS board.
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youre supposed to buy the union channel disk actually, its a separate "accessory"
as for the toe straps being inferior.. they are my favorite. now what?
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Hey I just added some more pics but they just showin up with the little red x...anyone else having problems? |
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yeah cant see the new pics but i would love to!
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Those look awesome! next board I get that isn't ICS i will be getting union
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These all look awsome. I cant wate till they are released.
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I can't weight either!
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Truly an unbearable waite.
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I love the look of the atlas. next season it will be either rome's, contact pro's, or atlas'. Im hearing rumors of a canted footbed for union bindings, so that would sway me away from the rome binders.
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should i switch from cartel est to unions. if so which ones. i only ride park
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11 Dc lauri pro tone, 11 Rome s90 bindings
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do you like your cartels? get forces.
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