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    Posted: Sep/14/2011 at 7:18am
Originally posted by kimchijajonshim

Yes, the dance does suck.  I had one set of boots that fit me HEAVENLY (2009 Forum Verdicts) and of course I had to warranty them and Forum promptly stopped making them, so I never got a replacement.  I'm hopeful for the Imperials, Burtons have generally fit me pretty well.

We should ride sometime this season, I'll be back in the Bay Area come December although I won't have time to consistently ride until late-February after the bar.
 
Ha! I'm still kicking myself in the butt for not pulling the trigger on the 09 Forum Stunners, which I tried on @Sierra as I was heading back from a day trip. I didn't have the scratch for them at the time. Plus, the day's riding could have easily skewed the way any boot would feel.
 
In my hunt last year, I saw the 08s still available here and got 'em mistakenly thinking they'd fit as the 09s did. They are snug as they should be, but I end up w/ soreness & even redness on the "knuckles" (or mounds) of my big & little toes. I also ended up w/ black nail on each of my second toes due to impact bruising at the tips.
 
They feel awesome everywhere else on my feet, so it sucks that I'll be starting from square one again. Before playing this game, I'm thinking of taking these latest boots to a fitter to see if we can mod anything to make them right. I never really considered it. But after reading the 3rd entry of your original post (I always skipped over it since I never felt any issues related to shims, cants, etc. Shame on me.Wink), it could be worth a try.
 
If tweaking those is not a sound option, I'll be using his/her expertise to get me into the right ones. I hope Ions are among the contenders. Burtons have always fit me well, and I love the amount of response & stiffness that Ions typically have. Their pricetag & popularity (read: avavilablility) have always been "sore" points w/ me.
 
Btw, congrats on being close to wrapping up in the frozen tundra. Good luck w/ the bar! My cousin just took it in July. Whatever trip I can squeeze in when you're free & clear, I'm down, bruddah.Cool
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  Quote JAMM0N Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/14/2011 at 10:31am
very useful guide. surprised no sticky yet!
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  Quote adddt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/14/2011 at 12:36pm
Really good guide,I will try it when I got some free time to spend in shops
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  Quote kimchijajonshim Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/14/2011 at 5:38pm
Originally posted by JAMM0N

very useful guide. surprised no sticky yet!
Can't say I'm too surprised.  Encouraging in-store purchases is basically dissuading people from purchasing from the House.
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  Quote JAMM0N Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/14/2011 at 7:22pm
persuading us to go into store try on boots and finding them online. if not or so from the store. its a win win situation and plus you dont have to have the hassle of waiting.
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  Quote kimchijajonshim Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/14/2011 at 7:36pm
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persuading us to go into store try on boots and finding them online. if not or so from the store. its a win win situation and plus you dont have to have the hassle of waiting.
Bullshit I'm persuading you to pull that.  I address this specifically in my post.  You pull that enough, eventually that shop goes under and you're SOL.  And even if it doesn't, it sucks for the shop kid whose time you're wasting because he's missing out on commission money catering to your sorry ass.  I don't mind too much if you know what you're looking for and there's maybe one or two different boots you want to try on, but if you're spending hours and hours trying on boots and relying on their input without any intention of patronage that just sucks.  Just buy it in the shop, in the post-Sierra world it's unlikely you'll save that much money unless you manage to find it lightly used.  At least give the shop a chance to price match.
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  Quote JAMM0N Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/14/2011 at 7:59pm
i'm not here to patronize you or anybody else. i read from a post from this forum also to go to local snowboard shop and try on boots and see what i like and narrow down on what kind of boots i should buy. first thing i was told on this forum.

i dont know if i'll leave with boots or not but i do have to try some on before i can make a decision. you guys seem like its easy but its not.

your supposed to give noobies like me advice not flame me for picking on whether i should buy from the store or the so called "the house"
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Originally posted by JAMM0N

. i read from a post from this forum also to go to local snowboard shop and try on boots and see what i like and narrow down on what kind of boots i should buy. first thing i was told on this forum.



your supposed to give noobies like me advice not flame me for picking on whether i should buy from the store or the so called "the house"

First off it's it's "you're" not your.
Second, he kind of wrote out boot fitting and buying in a nutshell, what else do you want?
He flamed because you falsely accused him.
No one said it was easy finding the right boots.

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  Quote kimchijajonshim Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/14/2011 at 8:32pm
Clearly I put together that long, involved post about buying boots because I think it's a very simple process and I don't care about noobs being stoked on snowboarding.  You caught me.  
I'm not flaming you for being a noob.  What I stated in the previous post isn't about experience, it's about doing the right thing.  Or at least not blatantly telling people to do the wrong thing.

Le sigh.
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  Quote watching-sunset Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/14/2011 at 10:46pm
OK. have a question, is it possible to somehow renew the fit of inner boot. I really love my Salomon boots, but after few years riding the inner boot starts loosing tightness. my feet can move up to half inch inside even if ii is perfectly tightly laced...

Is there anything I can do?
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  Quote kimchijajonshim Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/15/2011 at 6:06am
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OK. have a question, is it possible to somehow renew the fit of inner boot. I really love my Salomon boots, but after few years riding the inner boot starts loosing tightness. my feet can move up to half inch inside even if ii is perfectly tightly laced...

Is there anything I can do?
See second post of thread.  

If that doesn't work, Salomon might let you buy a pair of liners but there's no guarantee they'll be the same liner shape after a couple years and they might be pretty expensive.  At that point it's probably better to buy new boots.
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  Quote kimchijajonshim Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/15/2011 at 6:14am
Originally posted by watching-sunset

OK. have a question, is it possible to somehow renew the fit of inner boot. I really love my Salomon boots, but after few years riding the inner boot starts loosing tightness. my feet can move up to half inch inside even if ii is perfectly tightly laced...

Is there anything I can do?
See second post of thread.  

If that doesn't work, Salomon might let you buy a pair of liners but there's no guarantee they'll be the same liner shape after a couple years and they might be pretty expensive.  At that point it's probably better to buy new boots.
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  Quote wpiass Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/15/2011 at 6:56am
i bought a pair of these footbeds that shape themselves after 20s in the microwave, and you repeat multiple times.  i forgot the brand, but they were around $100 and are made of some kind of cork-like composite material.
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i bought a pair of these footbeds that shape themselves after 20s in the microwave, and you repeat multiple times.  i forgot the brand, but they were around $100 and are made of some kind of cork-like composite material.


Foot beds are okay, but nothing compares to well-fitting boots that are suited to your foot type.  My point is that if you are going to put the money out there, invest in boots.
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Is here anyone who tried thohse ankle wraps or C-pads?? Maybe someone made them on his own?
Should you stick it inside of inner boot or outside?
Any suggestions which pads or shimps are better?
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  Quote kimchijajonshim Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/16/2011 at 7:10pm
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Is here anyone who tried thohse ankle wraps or C-pads?? Maybe someone made them on his own?
Should you stick it inside of inner boot or outside?
Any suggestions which pads or shimps are better?
Buddy set me up with an ankle wrap.  You stick them outside of the inner liner, between the liner and the outer shell.  As to which are better, depends on your foot and the boot.  Probably easiest to go down to a local ski shop.  Maybe a snowboard shop if you're lucky; generally I find snowboarders don't know squat about nuanced bootfitting unless they're up in the mountains.
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  Quote kimchijajonshim Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/16/2011 at 7:14pm
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Is here anyone who tried thohse ankle wraps or C-pads?? Maybe someone made them on his own? 
Should you stick it inside of inner boot or outside? 
Any suggestions which pads or shimps are better?
You stick them outside of the inner liner, between the liner and the outer shell.  

Buddy set me up with an butterfly wrap, which is like a combination of both ankle wrap and C-pad.  A full ankle wrap may hold you down better, but it may also not be shaped well for your particular situation.  And if it does work, it will probably push you a tiny bit forward in your boot than the C-pad would.  This might work to your benefit if you have too much space in the boot, however for me on the particular boot I had, it resulted in some pretty horrific toe pains.  All depends on the situation.

Probably best to go down to a local ski shop and ask for bootfitting advice.  Maybe a snowboard shop if you're lucky; generally I find snowboarders don't know squat about nuanced bootfitting unless they're up in the mountains.
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  Quote watching-sunset Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/19/2011 at 12:07am
the worst thing is that our local boardershops don't have even an idea what da heck is those ankle wraps)) they will suggest me to buy new boot and not to shtook their brains)
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  Quote kimchijajonshim Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/21/2011 at 8:57am
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the worst thing is that our local boardershops don't have even an idea what da heck is those ankle wraps)) they will suggest me to buy new boot and not to shtook their brains)
Yea, like I said, snowboarders tend not to know a whole lot about boot fitting.  I can count on one hand the competent snowboarder boot-fitters I've met outside a mountain-setting.  Skiers tend to be much more on top of it, I imagine because they have a much stronger race culture (and possibly because they tend to be more anal-retentive).
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Hey Kimchi, have I told you lately how much I love you? I'm surprised I didn't see this back in the spring, but now I know where to send all boot questions first. Wink
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I board and I'm anal retentive. :P 
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  Quote boardoholic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/22/2011 at 7:57pm
Originally posted by kimchijajonshim

I can count on one hand the competent snowboarder boot-fitters I've met outside a mountain-setting.
 
I posted earlier on the Bay Area Yahoo group for riders & skiers inquiring about this very piece of extremely valuable knowledge you might have. Hook a brotha up!
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  Quote kimchijajonshim Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/22/2011 at 8:01pm
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Originally posted by kimchijajonshim

I can count on one hand the competent snowboarder boot-fitters I've met outside a mountain-setting.
 
I posted earlier on the Bay Area Yahoo group for riders & skiers inquiring about this very piece of knowledge you might have. Hook a brotha up!
I can't remember his name, but the manager at Action Sports in San Carlos has a fair bit of boot fitting experience.  It's been a while since I worked there, but the guys at Any Mountain shops are generally good (although it might be a skier).  I'd give them a call and ask who their bootfitter is, and then ask that person specifically about his/her qualifications.
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How about..boot size? If I am size 11..is there anyway to guess if a size 12 will fit? Say..I have no local vendors to check out?
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Originally posted by boardoholic

Originally posted by kimchijajonshim

I can count on one hand the competent snowboarder boot-fitters I've met outside a mountain-setting.
 
I posted earlier on the Bay Area Yahoo group for riders & skiers inquiring about this very piece of knowledge you might have. Hook a brotha up!
I can't remember his name, but the manager at Action Sports in San Carlos has a fair bit of boot fitting experience.  It's been a while since I worked there, but the guys at Any Mountain shops are generally good (although it might be a skier).  I'd give them a call and ask who their bootfitter is, and then ask that person specifically about his/her qualifications.
 
Grazie. I'll check into them, too.
 
I did a mild online search and the only place NOT ski-boot fitter only was Helm of Sun Valley in San Mateo. I actually called 'em up right before my class just to inquire if they're already able to fit folks since I assumed they're still in summer mode w/ their kite-, wake-, windsurf-board & ski goods.
 
I was kinda surprised they were because before ringing them I had called CalSki Co. in Berkeley to get a rec for a snowboard boot fitter in the event that CalSki did strictly ski boots as their website leads me to believe. CalSki is only open on wknds til the season is upon us.
 
Anyway... then, in my rush, I only asked Helm about their hours thru the wknd and to confirm that they're able to see if my latest Forums are salvagable as a good fit.
 
Wish me luck as I'm hoping to have one of 'em take a look-see this wknd! Thumbs Up
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How about..boot size? If I am size 11..is there anyway to guess if a size 12 will fit? Say..I have no local vendors to check out?
Basically the entire point of my point is that there's no way to tell until you try stuff on. Different brands size differently, even sometimes from model to model within the same brand. Buy it and pray, basically.
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Originally posted by Settraxi

How about..boot size? If I am size 11..is there anyway to guess if a size 12 will fit? Say..I have no local vendors to check out?
Basically the entire point of my point is that there's no way to tell until you try stuff on. Different brands size differently, even sometimes from model to model within the same brand. Buy it and pray, basically.

Exactly.  You are rolling the dice if you buy boots online without trying them on first.  If you have no local vendors then make a point to spend some time driving to a shop that does sell boots and has a boot-fitter.  Do some research otherwise roll the dice, buy your boots online and get some boots that do not fit properly which will lead to miserable days on the hill.  Your choice.
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I can count on one hand the competent snowboarder boot-fitters I've met outside a mountain-setting.
 
I posted earlier on the Bay Area Yahoo group for riders & skiers inquiring about this very piece of knowledge you might have. Hook a brotha up!
I can't remember his name, but the manager at Action Sports in San Carlos has a fair bit of boot fitting experience.  It's been a while since I worked there, but the guys at Any Mountain shops are generally good (although it might be a skier).  I'd give them a call and ask who their bootfitter is, and then ask that person specifically about his/her qualifications.
 
Grazie. I'll check into them, too.
 
I did a mild online search and the only place NOT ski-boot fitter only was Helm of Sun Valley in San Mateo. I actually called 'em up right before my class just to inquire if they're already able to fit folks since I assumed they're still in summer mode w/ their kite-, wake-, windsurf-board & ski goods.
 
I was kinda surprised they were because before ringing them I had called CalSki Co. in Berkeley to get a rec for a snowboard boot fitter in the event that CalSki did strictly ski boots as their website leads me to believe. CalSki is only open on wknds til the season is upon us.
 
Anyway... then, in my rush, I only asked Helm about their hours thru the wknd and to confirm that they're able to see if my latest Forums are salvagable as a good fit.
 
Wish me luck as I'm hoping to have one of 'em take a look-see this wknd! Thumbs Up
Yea, Bay area is tough.  Sierra (and before that, Tri-City) apparently killed off a ton of small shops in the area 10-15 years ago.  Not that may left with any kind of expertise.

Come to think of it, I don't know if they have boot fitting expertise per se, but the folks at Sports Basement are worth talking to.  I've shot the breeze with them in the past at various stores and they seem really on top of things.

Is that Bay Area Yahoo Group pretty active?  I need a crew when I get back down to the Bay, none of my friends are that into riding as I am.

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I can count on one hand the competent snowboarder boot-fitters I've met outside a mountain-setting.
 
I posted earlier on the Bay Area Yahoo group for riders & skiers inquiring about this very piece of knowledge you might have. Hook a brotha up!
I can't remember his name, but the manager at Action Sports in San Carlos has a fair bit of boot fitting experience.  It's been a while since I worked there, but the guys at Any Mountain shops are generally good (although it might be a skier).  I'd give them a call and ask who their bootfitter is, and then ask that person specifically about his/her qualifications.
 
Grazie. I'll check into them, too.
 
I did a mild online search and the only place NOT ski-boot fitter only was Helm of Sun Valley in San Mateo. I actually called 'em up right before my class just to inquire if they're already able to fit folks since I assumed they're still in summer mode w/ their kite-, wake-, windsurf-board & ski goods.
 
I was kinda surprised they were because before ringing them I had called CalSki Co. in Berkeley to get a rec for a snowboard boot fitter in the event that CalSki did strictly ski boots as their website leads me to believe. CalSki is only open on wknds til the season is upon us.
 
Anyway... then, in my rush, I only asked Helm about their hours thru the wknd and to confirm that they're able to see if my latest Forums are salvagable as a good fit.
 
Wish me luck as I'm hoping to have one of 'em take a look-see this wknd! Thumbs Up
Yea, Bay area is tough.  Sierra (and before that, Tri-City) apparently killed off a ton of small shops in the area 10-15 years ago.  Not that may left with any kind of expertise.

Come to think of it, I don't know if they have boot fitting expertise per se, but the folks at Sports Basement are worth talking to.  I've shot the breeze with them in the past at various stores and they seem really on top of things.

Is that Bay Area Yahoo Group pretty active?  I need a crew when I get back down to the Bay, none of my friends are that into riding as I am.

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Thanks for the tips. I usually try to lace up really tight to have a more secure fit. Ill loosen it up next time.
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I can count on one hand the competent snowboarder boot-fitters I've met outside a mountain-setting.
 
I posted earlier on the Bay Area Yahoo group for riders & skiers inquiring about this very piece of knowledge you might have. Hook a brotha up!
I can't remember his name, but the manager at Action Sports in San Carlos has a fair bit of boot fitting experience.  It's been a while since I worked there, but the guys at Any Mountain shops are generally good (although it might be a skier).  I'd give them a call and ask who their bootfitter is, and then ask that person specifically about his/her qualifications.
 
Grazie. I'll check into them, too.
 
I did a mild online search and the only place NOT ski-boot fitter only was Helm of Sun Valley in San Mateo. I actually called 'em up right before my class just to inquire if they're already able to fit folks since I assumed they're still in summer mode w/ their kite-, wake-, windsurf-board & ski goods.
 
I was kinda surprised they were because before ringing them I had called CalSki Co. in Berkeley to get a rec for a snowboard boot fitter in the event that CalSki did strictly ski boots as their website leads me to believe. CalSki is only open on wknds til the season is upon us.
 
Anyway... then, in my rush, I only asked Helm about their hours thru the wknd and to confirm that they're able to see if my latest Forums are salvagable as a good fit.
 
Wish me luck as I'm hoping to have one of 'em take a look-see this wknd! Thumbs Up
Yea, Bay area is tough.  Sierra (and before that, Tri-City) apparently killed off a ton of small shops in the area 10-15 years ago.  Not that may left with any kind of expertise.

Come to think of it, I don't know if they have boot fitting expertise per se, but the folks at Sports Basement are worth talking to.  I've shot the breeze with them in the past at various stores and they seem really on top of things.

Is that Bay Area Yahoo Group pretty active?  I need a crew when I get back down to the Bay, none of my friends are that into riding as I am.

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Originally posted by kimchijajonshim

Yea, Bay area is tough.  Sierra (and before that, Tri-City) apparently killed off a ton of small shops in the area 10-15 years ago.  Not that may left with any kind of expertise.

Come to think of it, I don't know if they have boot fitting expertise per se, but the folks at Sports Basement are worth talking to.  I've shot the breeze with them in the past at various stores and they seem really on top of things.

Is that Bay Area Yahoo Group pretty active?  I need a crew when I get back down to the Bay, none of my friends are that into riding as I am.

Where do you go to school?
 
I go to CSU East Bay (the university formerly known as Hayward State Tongue). I'm not as dialed in as you & hana w/ y'all post-baccalaureate pursuits, but I decided it was time to get serious & finally get my bachelor's. I should be wrapping up by next winter and plan to immediately get right back in the mix for my teaching credential or possibly an MBA.
 
The SnowPals Yahoo group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ski_pal/ -or- http://snowpals.org/) is pretty active. Like this forum, it's a great way to connect for possible rideshares, etc. Fortunately, I've only had really great experiences w/ folks I've linked up for rides. A handful have turned into repeat company on the drives w/ a couple over-niters, too. Different areas of the Bay (SF, South Bay, East Bay) regularly hold mixers so people can meet prospective rideshare passengers & drivers and ski lease members. For those who aren't comfortable or are concerned, it helps to ease some of the anxiety or awkwardness so peeps aren't such strangers.
 
Once you're back in da Bay, I'd be down to roll w/ you whenever I could.
 
Back on the topic of boot fit, I went to Helm after the showroom sale on Sat. I think I mentioned before that I called 'em earlier in the week and that I could come in w/ my boots anytime during business hours. Even though I had to come back the next day (today), which is more than understandable, to try out my newly-stretched boots, it looks like my issues may be fixed. They felt a bit more comfy, but I told 'em that I'll likely come back to them a day or so after my first day back on the snow to see how my feet feel. Just like w/ the initial fit, it's tough to get a sense of all the nuances w/o actually putting your feet/ankles/shins/calves thru their paces. The boot tech also suggested maybe carpet riding to feel things out.
 
So basically, we've got a good gameplan set to get the best fit possible. I'll definitely recommend them to others. They're all about wanting their customers leaving w/ happy feet! Another plus is that they're one of the few shops that carry Never Summer!Thumbs Up
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Looks like you've found best way to solve boot fit challenge.
Wish you luck with that!

Still I got a request. If anyone has pics of those fitting pads in close-up I would really appreciate it. I would like to see these closer.
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Originally posted by boardoholic

Back on the topic of boot fit, I went to Helm after the showroom sale on Sat. I think I mentioned before that I called 'em earlier in the week and that I could come in w/ my boots anytime during business hours. Even though I had to come back the next day (today), which is more than understandable, to try out my newly-stretched boots, it looks like my issues may be fixed. They felt a bit more comfy, but I told 'em that I'll likely come back to them a day or so after my first day back on the snow to see how my feet feel. Just like w/ the initial fit, it's tough to get a sense of all the nuances w/o actually putting your feet/ankles/shins/calves thru their paces. The boot tech also suggested maybe carpet riding to feel things out.
 
So basically, we've got a good gameplan set to get the best fit possible. I'll definitely recommend them to others. They're all about wanting their customers leaving w/ happy feet! Another plus is that they're one of the few shops that carry Never Summer!Thumbs Up
Did they stretch your shell?  I've heard different things on that, some bootfitters say they won't do it on snowboard boots, but I've heard a couple snowboarders tell me they've gotten it done and it worked out.
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Originally posted by boardoholic

Back on the topic of boot fit, I went to Helm after the showroom sale on Sat. I think I mentioned before that I called 'em earlier in the week and that I could come in w/ my boots anytime during business hours. Even though I had to come back the next day (today), which is more than understandable, to try out my newly-stretched boots, it looks like my issues may be fixed. They felt a bit more comfy, but I told 'em that I'll likely come back to them a day or so after my first day back on the snow to see how my feet feel. Just like w/ the initial fit, it's tough to get a sense of all the nuances w/o actually putting your feet/ankles/shins/calves thru their paces. The boot tech also suggested maybe carpet riding to feel things out.
 
So basically, we've got a good gameplan set to get the best fit possible. I'll definitely recommend them to others. They're all about wanting their customers leaving w/ happy feet! Another plus is that they're one of the few shops that carry Never Summer!Thumbs Up
Did they stretch your shell?  I've heard different things on that, some bootfitters say they won't do it on snowboard boots, but I've heard a couple snowboarders tell me they've gotten it done and it worked out.
 
They stretched my liners in all 3 problem areas (tip of middle toe and mounds of pinky toe & big toe) and my shells only very slightly in two mound trouble spots. They knew that one could easliy bust the seams, etc. if they weren't careful so they were very aware & meticulous about being very incremental w/ 'em.
 
I could feel the teeniest difference in improved comfort in the mound (aka main knuckle) areas. I'm unsure how my middle toes will be. I had zero pain & discomfort outta the box. However, on my 1st or 2nd day in them, I ended up bruising my left middle toe (ended up w/ black nail). The same thing ended up happening to my right one on day 3 or 4 in 'em. I'm guessing that I'm slipping forward enough on landings or just via the aggressive freeriding that I do normally in such a way as to crunch up my middle toes.
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Originally posted by kimchijajonshim

Originally posted by boardoholic

Back on the topic of boot fit, I went to Helm after the showroom sale on Sat. I think I mentioned before that I called 'em earlier in the week and that I could come in w/ my boots anytime during business hours. Even though I had to come back the next day (today), which is more than understandable, to try out my newly-stretched boots, it looks like my issues may be fixed. They felt a bit more comfy, but I told 'em that I'll likely come back to them a day or so after my first day back on the snow to see how my feet feel. Just like w/ the initial fit, it's tough to get a sense of all the nuances w/o actually putting your feet/ankles/shins/calves thru their paces. The boot tech also suggested maybe carpet riding to feel things out.
 
So basically, we've got a good gameplan set to get the best fit possible. I'll definitely recommend them to others. They're all about wanting their customers leaving w/ happy feet! Another plus is that they're one of the few shops that carry Never Summer!Thumbs Up
Did they stretch your shell?  I've heard different things on that, some bootfitters say they won't do it on snowboard boots, but I've heard a couple snowboarders tell me they've gotten it done and it worked out.
 
They stretched my liners in all 3 problem areas (tip of middle toe and mounds of pinky toe & big toe) and my shells only very slightly in two mound trouble spots. They knew that one could easliy bust the seams, etc. if they weren't careful so they were very aware & meticulous about being very incremental w/ 'em.
 
I could feel the teeniest difference in improved comfort in the mound (aka main knuckle) areas. I'm unsure how my middle toes will be. I had zero pain & discomfort outta the box. However, on my 1st or 2nd day in them, I ended up bruising my left middle toe (ended up w/ black nail). The same thing ended up happening to my right one on day 3 or 4 in 'em. I'm guessing that I'm slipping forward enough on landings or just via the aggressive freeriding that I do normally in such a way as to crunch up my middle toes.
What did they charge for the whole deal?  I think I might need some stretching on my "knuckle."
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This is very helpful! Thank you so much!
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I agree with kimchijajonshim, the thing is that zise change with the vendor... so you have to tray it in some shop to make sure of the exactly size of boots...
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I was wondering what the skinniest boots are, of course I would go to a bit fiiter , but just to narrow it down I have very skinny fit (narrow) and I also have high arches..who should i check out first?
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I was wondering what the skinniest boots are, of course I would go to a bit fiiter , but just to narrow it down I have very skinny fit (narrow) and I also have high arches..who should i check out first?
I remember Ride having a pretty narrow last.  Salomons used to, but they seem to have widened over the years.  I hear Nitros are pretty narrow but have never tried on a pair.
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Ride is somewhat narrow.
Burton def. fit my narrow feet well.
Heard Nikes are pretty narrow too.
Salomons def. got wider over the years.
K2s are pretty wide.
Vans are medium if i remembered correctly.
I got skinny asian feet and a local shop staff sneak a pair of women's Vans in while I was trying on boots and love the fit.
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Ride is somewhat narrow.
Burton def. fit my narrow feet well.
Heard Nikes are pretty narrow too.
Salomons def. got wider over the years.
K2s are pretty wide.
Vans are medium if i remembered correctly.
I got skinny asian feet and a local shop staff sneak a pair of women's Vans in while I was trying on boots and love the fit.
Interesting.  I got pretty wide feet and Burtons tend to fit me well.
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Originally posted by boardoholic

They stretched my liners in all 3 problem areas (tip of middle toe and mounds of pinky toe & big toe) and my shells only very slightly in two mound trouble spots. They knew that one could easliy bust the seams, etc. if they weren't careful so they were very aware & meticulous about being very incremental w/ 'em.
 
I could feel the teeniest difference in improved comfort in the mound (aka main knuckle) areas. I'm unsure how my middle toes will be. I had zero pain & discomfort outta the box. However, on my 1st or 2nd day in them, I ended up bruising my left middle toe (ended up w/ black nail). The same thing ended up happening to my right one on day 3 or 4 in 'em. I'm guessing that I'm slipping forward enough on landings or just via the aggressive freeriding that I do normally in such a way as to crunch up my middle toes.
What did they charge for the whole deal?  I think I might need some stretching on my "knuckle."
 
'Twas $40 total.
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Excellent guide, I will be pointing people here for information with the next "which boots are best" topic is created.

I like the guide suggested spent a few hours at my local store trying on many brands to find the best fit.
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Lot of helpful points for boot fitting. Thanks for the legwork bud!
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kimchijajonshim, gotta say thanks for the guide.  I read it thoroughly last week and this past weekend, went to get new boots with your guide firmly implanted in my noggin.  Went to 3 different shops to try as many boots as I could, and This is how it went down, so that people actually understand what the heck is goin on and how important it is to try it on....
 
This is based on my own experience, so what I say is about me, and not meant for anyone else, just highlighting the fact that each experience is different and that I vouch for trying them on first.
 
I got an actual measurement of my feet and I'm a true size 8, but my left foot is slightly larger by 1-2 mm.
 
Old boots: 2009 32 Lashed
Price point: CDN $220-300
Wanted: 2012 32 Lashed or Burton Restricted Ruler
 
Tried on:
32 Lashed, TM2, Juhyo
Burton Restricted Ruler, Hail, Ruler, Ion
DC Ceptor
Nike ZF 1, Vapen, Kaiju
Rome Libertine
Vans Hi Standard
 
Issues I had.
Too narrow-All Burton, All Nike, DC, Vans
Too soft-Rome Libertine, Hail, Lashed, Vans
Weird pressure points-Ruler (and Restricted), Ceptor, all Nike
Too heavy-Juhyo
 
I spent an average of almost 3 hours in each shop.
 
Bought: 32 TM2 - I ended up paying more than what I wanted but overall, this was the most comfortable out of all the boots I tried.  Mind you I wanted a stiffer boot than the Lashed.  The Lashed toebox was more comfortable than the TM2 by the slightest of margins bu that was because it's slightly wider feelwise, but the store clerk said that I can always come back in and they'll heat mold it for me if it doesn't pack out quickly enough.
 
I've worn it every evening for the past few nights, to break them in, so hopefully they'll be mint when I go boarding in a few weeks.  Each time I put it on, it feels better and better.
 
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Great post, Will try the guide for my next pair as the one I bought wasn't comfortable in the mountain, but in the store it was when i walked around the store.

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