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    Posted: Aug/01/2011 at 8:28pm
I use hertel super hot sauce works great everyone I've given it to has been pretty impressed with the stuff never waxed someones ski's with it and had them be less then happy, had my manager at the resort come back after skiing and tell me I did one Damn good job, which for someone who's pretty good at tuning and has had their gear tuned in a shop for the last 2o years is saying something.
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  Quote screwyvarmint Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/06/2011 at 11:39am
I don't think rub-on is a good option, even when you're in a rush.  In those cases, just shell out the $10 for a belt wax at the resort to get you thru the day.
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  Quote CLoSeR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/18/2011 at 4:32pm
Rub on wax is not worth the trouble, your supposed to rub it on then use the cork which generates a little heat from friction..

I can't see it being absorbed at the same rate as a good hot wax.

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  Quote zagfan5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/19/2011 at 3:33pm
rub on wax for my board is the equivalent of rubbing my nads with a cactus.

its just mean and i wouldnt do it to my boards. hot waxes only sir.
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  Quote silverJCE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/26/2011 at 9:17am
havent read all the replies, but i always hotwax 1-2 weeks and rub after every session. i go about 2-4 times a week when the season is good. when you go that many times a week, its hard to get a hotwax session, rub on in between days helps until you can hotwax again :)
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  Quote carebear Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/26/2011 at 9:39am
Whatever application method is easiest for me to get done quick and cheap/free from the pro shop...that's my method! Wink
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I'm not really sure, but from what I've been told, hot waxing helps your board slide better by filling in grooves and irregularities while at the same time releasing a bit of wax as the board moves. If this is true, then rub on wax only really helps in the second regard, and probably not nearly as well as with a hot wax.

It really doesn't take that much time to hot wax, so just do it. The only problem is that it's a little messy, and you need some ventilation, but meh.

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  Quote elixerboi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/28/2011 at 6:21pm
yeah, honestly rub-on wax won't even last you one run on the mountain :P..

hot waxing does get a little messy for us without a garage but definitely worth it
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  Quote AyChan87 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/28/2011 at 8:18pm
haha i hot wax in the middle of the apartment complex, landlord gives me a dirty look, but hey its all good
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  Quote pibimbap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/29/2011 at 9:46am
Lol. Yeah same.
I used to hot wax in my living room, and my roommates got kind of angry about it. Turns out wax sticks to glass tables pretty horribly.

Luckily you can melt it off most things. :P My dining room table needed a good wax anyways.

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Hot wax all the way! It's very time consuming but it's worth the trouble Wink
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  Quote upstateshred Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/09/2011 at 9:50am
I've got a capita with an extruded base - I know hot wax is better for a sintered base, howabout for an extruded base?
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  Quote Amills646 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/09/2011 at 9:52am
hot wax hot wax hot wax
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  Quote hoyhoy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/12/2011 at 5:20pm
Hot wax is the way to go. Leaves a mess, but hey, it's better than having to re-apply rub-on wax after each run
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  Quote andrethegiant Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/12/2011 at 5:22pm
hot wax is sooo much better, rub on is for those times on hill where you can tell something is catching, but don't really have access to an iron.
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  Quote XxboardKingxX Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/14/2011 at 7:40pm
HOT WAX FOR THE WIN!!! rub on sucks!!
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hot wax make love to your board! massage it! rub it all up!
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  Quote barnyard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/15/2011 at 5:56am
hot wax is the only answer
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  Quote njironman6 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/22/2011 at 6:32am
Ive heard of people layering different kinds of wax or mixing them. Anybody ever hot wax then rub ontop of that? Curious to see. My experience with rub on wax is that its seriously slick stuff just really short life.
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  Quote MikeD13559 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/24/2011 at 11:23am
Originally posted by njironman6

Ive heard of people layering different kinds of wax or mixing them. Anybody ever hot wax then rub ontop of that? Curious to see. My experience with rub on wax is that its seriously slick stuff just really short life.


a lot of ppl do a cold wax first (thin layer) then add all temp wax (thin layer) over that.. then scrape.  The theory being the cold temp wax will not come off as quickly.. so your wax job will last/ perform longer.  The cold wax is focused on the edges and across the board in the contact pt areas near the nose and tail (since these are the areas which get the most friction).
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  Quote grunge Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/24/2011 at 3:35pm
Sounds a little bit overcomplicated... I mean, if you're a racer sure, but on the whole... just wax... I know that bataleon uses 2 sets of wax per board..but I just use the one. 

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  Quote shing02 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/27/2011 at 8:52am
is rub on enough to protect the board when the season is over?
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  Quote kel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/27/2011 at 10:06am
^no it will not be. the layer of wax we leave on is to protect the steel from oxidizing, and to protect the base from damage also. rub on is very thin and will be not useful
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  Quote goldbond-2000 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/27/2011 at 10:23am
Hot waxing is better. With sintered base I need to wax it once for every 3-4 times out. Obviously less than that if its all powder. Rub on wax doesn't get down into the sintered base and will probably come off after a few runs.
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  Quote shing02 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/28/2011 at 12:40am
thanks for that tip-off kel.........good thing i never invested in it, would've been a waste of accumulated amazon giftcards, lawl
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  Quote njironman6 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/29/2011 at 1:15pm
Think this season im gonna do some experimenting mixing levels of wax see what lasts longest.
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  Quote kyavo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/03/2011 at 1:51pm
yea i just waxed my board this past week. Screw you board shops who over charge for waxing and take way to long as well.
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  Quote broke_folk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/03/2011 at 1:54pm
Originally posted by kyavo

yea i just waxed my board this past week. Screw you board shops who over charge for waxing and take way to long as well.


Yeah, i'll be doing this as well. Got like a 8-10 boards to tune and wax (not all mine, only 4) way cheaper to do it yourself.
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  Quote njironman6 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/06/2011 at 4:25am
Waiting for TS to carry a waxing iron so i can pick one up along with some wax. Im anxiously waiting to tune and wax a few boards gets me back intune with boarding :)
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  Quote VermontRider Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/06/2011 at 5:20am
Originally posted by njironman6

Waiting for TS to carry a waxing iron so i can pick one up along with some wax. Im anxiously waiting to tune and wax a few boards gets me back intune with boarding :)
You could always pick up a $10 normal iron at the store.
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  Quote JESSICRAZIE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/06/2011 at 6:11am
Originally posted by VermontRider

Originally posted by njironman6

Waiting for TS to carry a waxing iron so i can pick one up along with some wax. Im anxiously waiting to tune and wax a few boards gets me back intune with boarding :)
You could always pick up a $10 normal iron at the store.

just get an iron that doesn't have holes in the bottom 
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Originally posted by JESSICRAZIE

Originally posted by VermontRider

Originally posted by njironman6

Waiting for TS to carry a waxing iron so i can pick one up along with some wax. Im anxiously waiting to tune and wax a few boards gets me back intune with boarding :)
You could always pick up a $10 normal iron at the store.

just get an iron that doesn't have holes in the bottom 
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I was wondering the same thing, thanks for all the great information.
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  Quote MikeD13559 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/09/2011 at 8:34am
Originally posted by kel

^no it will not be. the layer of wax we leave on is to protect the steel from oxidizing, and to protect the base from damage also. rub on is very thin and will be not useful


a storage coat of wax does not protect the edges (or steel).. idk where U got that idea.
It protects the base from oxidation.
But correct about rub on wax.  rub-on wax is only good for a quick fix on the slopes kind of situation.
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I'm pretty sure if you put wax on the edges it'll keep it from rusting
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  Quote MikeD13559 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/09/2011 at 8:49am
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I'm pretty sure if you put wax on the edges it'll keep it from rusting
are U pretty sure?  Have U waxed a board before.. do U know what U are talking about? That's not why U put a storage coat of wax on your boards...  If U don't know what U are talking about, don't post in forum threads where people are looking for information.
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I have never tryed hotwax. I use rub on wax and it works fine for me
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  Quote CLoSeR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/09/2011 at 3:27pm
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I have never tryed hotwax. I use rub on wax and it works fine for me


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  Quote belleayre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/09/2011 at 4:09pm
Originally posted by MikeD13559

Originally posted by kel

^no it will not be. the layer of wax we leave on is to protect the steel from oxidizing, and to protect the base from damage also. rub on is very thin and will be not useful


a storage coat of wax does not protect the edges (or steel).. idk where U got that idea.
It protects the base from oxidation.
But correct about rub on wax.  rub-on wax is only good for a quick fix on the slopes kind of situation.

If you leave wax on the edges it will help protect against rust. Snowboard bases do not oxidize. Google it. 
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  Quote neojester22 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/14/2011 at 11:45am
I keep a tube of Speed Paste (smells like Pina Colada) with me for the days i forget to wax my board. Does the job to hold me over till I can wax last that night. And for $10 bucks a tube that lasts a few seasons its a great deal.

I say both but in combination.
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  Quote bootleg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/14/2011 at 11:48am
hot wax is always better...rub-on will last you for about 2 good runs depends how much of a good job you did but not worth the long effort with rub on unless your short on time
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  Quote mluu003 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/14/2011 at 12:52pm
I thought rub on wax was like.."emergency wax" like if you needed wax asap? I assumed hot wax was the main type of wax.
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  Quote nautika96 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/14/2011 at 1:10pm
for the most part rub is emergency. hot wax is better absorbed into your base and youll notice it if you're trying to go faster.
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  Quote mluu003 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/15/2011 at 6:21pm
Originally posted by nautika96

for the most part rub is emergency. hot wax is better absorbed into your base and youll notice it if you're trying to go faster.



I totally agree. Rub wax doesnt get absorbed into the base of your board well.
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any suggestions on hot wax accessory bundles?
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rub on wax doesnt last...like at all. its pretty much pointless.
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for those that doesnt know how to wax properly. watch and learn


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  Quote gfcthomas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/19/2011 at 5:07pm
i prefer hot wax because it last way longer and costs less if you all ready have an iron and scraper but one tip loosen your binding screws other wise you will get 4 nice little bumps on your board and also do not leave the iron in on place for to long and only iron till the bottom of your board gets just above room temperature.
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  Quote shib Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/22/2011 at 10:41am
One Ball Jay F1 All-temp Hot Wax / Rub-on works great as a rub on wax if you don't have the time to hot wax. Best I've come across so far over the years.
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  Quote AyChan87 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/22/2011 at 10:42am
hot wax is way better, sticks longer, i found that rub on wax comes off after one run
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