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    Posted: Feb/25/2011 at 5:19am
Hey guys,  I just happened to try Rub on Wax from Burton.
Bottom line is this:  I don't even know if the wax is getting rubbed on.
You see, The wax it self is so hard and stiff, and when I rub it on, I don't know if it is getting applied.

On the other hand,  hot wax is pretty good. I can really SEE it getting rubbed on. hot and dirty.
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  Quote muddog257 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/25/2011 at 5:23am
Hot wax all the way. It is more time consuming but it works better and lasts longer.
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rub on wax is $h!t.  That being said, I did a massive amount of board waxing last night and think I'm developing carpal tunnel from the scraping. 
 
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  Quote winze Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/25/2011 at 5:30am
Wow i just went through the first 4 links above and I think we'll just conclude that Hot Wax is the better option :P
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  Quote bmorse Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/25/2011 at 5:41am
This topic has been covered a ton here lately, but since you asked, definitely hot wax.  Gets into the pores of the base better and will definitely last longer than the rub on stuff.  If you know what you are doing when you hot wax, the base will look beautiful when you are done.
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  Quote Longboarderdude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/25/2011 at 11:28am
hot wax all the way... It dosent take too much longer than rub on once you get good at it. and it lasts more that a few runs.
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  Quote RedLego Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/25/2011 at 12:00pm
Hot wax> rub on wax. Personal experience the rub on stuff doesn't last that long.
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  Quote dy3versity Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/25/2011 at 12:31pm
Hot wax is a much better way to go! I do use rub on wax though, but only if I am very desperate to get a quick wax in. Usually at the mountain.
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  Quote scuddera Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/25/2011 at 12:38pm
Hot wax all the way. I do from time to time use a rub on wax if as a quick fix if i find the snow to be slow. its made by dakine and it works pretty well though i think car wax would do the same
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  Quote dking Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/25/2011 at 1:52pm
Hot wax is definitely much better, but I don't hot wax every day out. So I'll use a rub-on just about every day out and that seems to help the hot wax last longer. YMMV.

FWIW, I like the Poorboy Speed Paste because it's softer and seems to get worked in better.
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  Quote packfan4ever Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/25/2011 at 6:57pm
Rub On is a joke. Hot is much better . If you have to get through one day I wld use rub on but only in desperate times
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  Quote shwazy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/25/2011 at 9:24pm
this should not even be debated...
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  Quote jerry000 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/25/2011 at 10:00pm
hot wax for sure
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  Quote SLUSHIE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/26/2011 at 8:15am
rub on rubs off.
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  Quote krisshono Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/26/2011 at 8:20am
Yea man rub on wax sucks
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  Quote bonkfisher5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/26/2011 at 8:36am
Originally posted by SLUSHIE

rub on rubs off.

I was thinking the same thing... how would rub on wax even do anything? 
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  Quote ConDominantOne Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/08/2011 at 6:36pm
I work in the tech shop of Perfect North Slopes, Indiana. From my experiences in application and use, hot wax, when applied correctly on the correct type of base, will last up to 7 or so days of use. (Assuming the wax is rubbed on and slowly melted into the pores of a SINTERED base) Rub on wax, or "quick wax", lasts a good hour or two in proper conditions, excluding ice and rain. A hot wax takes around 20-30 minutes, depending on the temperature of the board, and costs $12. A quick wax takes anywhere from 2-5 minutes and costs 6$.

Let's do some math!:

HW: Y= (days x hours)/(price x application)
    Y= (7 x 8)/(12 x 20)
    Y= 56/240
    Y= .233333333

QW: Y= (days x hours)/(price x application)
    Y= (1 x 2)/(6 x 2)
    Y= 2/12
    Y= .166666667

Now you tell me, which is better:
.23333333 or .166666667
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  Quote trewyn15 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/08/2011 at 7:02pm
I noticed some dry spots on my brothers board last time we went boarding and used some burton paste wax.

He complained that he thought his board was going a little slower after this wax.  Just a little experience I had with rub on wax.
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  Quote tjeddrey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/09/2011 at 2:21am
i hot waxed my board about a 1/4 of the way throiugh the season and never got around to it again. by monday i had practically no wax in my base and was going extremely slow and we were running out of time and money so we got a block of rub on for 7 dollars. i will always keep some rub on in my bag becuase the differenc was amazing. nothin like a hot wax but great for on the fly and its cheaper. its good for in between hot waxes cuz u dont wanna hot wax it every time or every other time
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  Quote skyfooze Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/09/2011 at 2:34am
Hot wax is the wax to go. Mt buddy got a hot wax set and is waxing everyones skis and snowboards for like half the price of the ski shops. He says by next year he is going to be making profit because he has lmost paid off all of his equipment already.
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  Quote tw0scoops Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/10/2011 at 3:01am
I think rub on is good for a quick wax on the hill, but it's def not a long lasting wax job.
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  Quote bmorse Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/10/2011 at 7:10am
ConDominantOne, nice breakdown between hot wax and rub on wax. I've already stated my opinion about the two, but defeintely like the breakdown. Hot wax all the way!
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  Quote jjm550 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/10/2011 at 7:20am
Hot wax, it costs more on the short run because the iron, the wax and the whole kit but the wax will last longer and cost you less in the long run and its alot better and faster and just all around is the best. rub on wax sucks compaired to hot wax, rub on you should use when you cant get to hot wax
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  Quote thesupaflies Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/26/2011 at 9:06am
rub on wax is crap. use hot wax. it takes longer but it is worth it.
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  Quote Custom09 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/28/2011 at 6:27am
I use both, rub on for a last minute brush up if i didnt have time to hot wax, and it works fine, hot wax is definitely preferable performance wise.
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  Quote Danny1Boy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/28/2011 at 8:50am
There aint nothn like a nice smooth hot wax! Hot wax all the way!!!

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  Quote Sintexo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/28/2011 at 8:57am
Originally posted by thesupaflies

rub on wax is crap. use hot wax. it takes longer but it is worth it.

You brought back a post from march, on hot/rub on wax, with six links to other wax threads.  Even though there was a more recent one on the exact same topic.

Not that you'll even see my post... you'll just post in five more threads from March tomorrow.
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  Quote panther Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/28/2011 at 9:21am
Originally posted by Sintexo

Originally posted by thesupaflies

rub on wax is crap. use hot wax. it takes longer but it is worth it.

You brought back a post from march, on hot/rub on wax, with six links to other wax threads.  Even though there was a more recent one on the exact same topic.

Not that you'll even see my post... you'll just post in five more threads from March tomorrow.
 
this thread just wasn't complete without his advice on hot wax, even though the previous 30 posts were unanimous in saying hot wax is better.
 
Clap thank you supaflies, your advice is appreciated.
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  Quote Marumm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/28/2011 at 12:17pm
Ain't nothing new under the sun.  This is just one of the several eterna-topics you're going to see on a snowboarding forum over and over again.
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  Quote milesbros Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/28/2011 at 5:15pm
I only use rub on if thats the only option, would definitively get hot wax.
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  Quote return2heaven Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/29/2011 at 6:44pm
Originally posted by panther

Originally posted by Sintexo

Originally posted by thesupaflies

rub on wax is crap. use hot wax. it takes longer but it is worth it.

You brought back a post from march, on hot/rub on wax, with six links to other wax threads.  Even though there was a more recent one on the exact same topic.

Not that you'll even see my post... you'll just post in five more threads from March tomorrow.
 
this thread just wasn't complete without his advice on hot wax, even though the previous 30 posts were unanimous in saying hot wax is better.
 
Clap thank you supaflies, your advice is appreciated.


supaflies def knows his shit. i mean for someone who's 14 and only been riding for 2 years at 10 days a year, he's bought at least 6 boards and bindings (at least thats what his reviews say)
so he is for sure an expert on all things regarding snowboarding...
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i have never used rub on wax, but i would guess that hot wax is better because the wax gets sucked in the board better.
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  Quote vicente Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/30/2011 at 6:49pm
rub on wax vs hot wax is like justin beiber vs chuck norris, there is no way rub on is going to win it's not even going to put up something you could imaginatively call a fight.
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  Quote Ceida Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/04/2011 at 3:43pm
hey do you guys know any good wax for the snowboard.
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  Quote jstgermain Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/04/2011 at 3:45pm
Better to just pay a few bucks and get it hot waxed. You can ride probably at least 20-30 times before I'd get it done again and it works way better.
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Originally posted by jstgermain

Better to just pay a few bucks and get it hot waxed. You can ride probably at least 20-30 times before I'd get it done again and it works way better.

6-8 days on all temp wax and up to 15 on 0-15 wax. but close enough. but yeah for 12 dollars you can get it hotwaxed and ride it for a good while
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I got some swix rub on wax. I dont really see a big difference in my riding. Ive tried hot wax before and its so much different. I really do like it more than rub on. At least you can feel the difference
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  Quote grunge Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/06/2011 at 1:06am
Better any wax than no wax.

But just as it is with the ladies, hot waxing it is #1.


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^^^ hahah good one. but i need to find an iron. Can someone reccomend me a wax.
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  Quote woohoo123 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/06/2011 at 11:46am
i hate rub on wax, just seems like it doesnt get in all the way 

doesnt take as long which is a plus i guess and less to clean up
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  Quote gamelessx25 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/06/2011 at 12:50pm
Hot wax with all temp wax will last you a while, esp in the middle of the board, you may have to redo the edges more frequent as that wears out more as you carv =)
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^^^so is their a specific brand that has a good all temp wax
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  Quote Marnz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/07/2011 at 1:46am
I use Swix all temperature wax. Ive used rub on waxes in races and the only good stuff is the Swix black devil wax which cost $70 for a piece the size of an eraser. The hot wax is the most preffered method but rub on it good if your short of time or cash.
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Hot wax is prob a better buy in term of cost in the long run since it will last you longer.
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  Quote panther Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/23/2011 at 8:32am
this thread should be locked by now.  i think we've come to a consensus that hot wax is better than rub on.
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I prefer hot wax because if you get rub on wax it sounds like it could rub off easy. I llikt to tend my snowboard like it's my only love during the winter LMAOO
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^it doesn't just sound, it does rub off easily 
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