2012 Presidential Election

Originally posted by JDiggidy Originally posted by Skio25 Anyone else sick of logging into facebook just to see a billion status updates about politics? At least here we have it consolidated to one big argument thread. Too true.  It especially makes me mad when Facebook tries to tell me I should like someone's page.  "Hey man, this guy is a farking as-nole... you should like his page!"  No facebook, in fact I quite dislike that individule, and all of his friends as well.  So quit it!

Originally posted by twolf123 Originally posted by JDiggidy Originally posted by Skio25 Anyone else sick of logging into facebook just to see a billion status updates about politics? At least here we have it consolidated to one big argument thread. Too true.  It especially makes me mad when Facebook tries to tell me I should like someone's page.  "Hey man, this guy is a farking as-nole... you should like his page!"  No facebook, in fact I quite dislike that individule, and all of his friends as well.  So quit it! you COULD just defriend/unfollow those people :P come on, everyone knows that if you "like mitt romney"  you're an @$$hat anyway /s but no, seriously, even among friends there's no place for politics there :|. it's the same as any forum that devolves into a circlejerk or congregation for trolls and *tards.

I don't ever watch the elections unless someone made a song out of it in autotune.  But like my economist teacher said, Obama needs his 2nd term to fix things because it took him 4 years to screw up and realized what he did wrong and now needs the next 4 years to fix things.  He was given a broken nation by Bush.

Originally posted by HAVEN2135 I hope this debate gets better it is like watching two little kids fight back and forth, currently they are stuck on the economy and are not bringing up any new points.

Biden was a total schmuck the way he kept laughing, grinning and rolling his eyes. Very unprofessional. Very annoying.

It's always between a douchebag and a turd sandwich.

the VP debate was MUCH more heated than what we saw on the presidential debate...biden actually called ryan on his bs!

Originally posted by grapeape2669 Originally posted by rosati777 I just know that our deficit is from wars and Romney's number one priority is our military so that means more military spending and more debt. Anyone else is better as far as I'm concerned. Do you know that?  Our budget this year is broken down to be 24% defense, 22% health care, 22% pensions (mainly social security), and 12% welfare.  And in 2017, the budget is laid out to be 18% defense, 28% health care, 24% pensions, and 9% welfare. Also keep in mind that nearly half of the health care budget is allocated health care to welfare participants.  So when you take that into consideration, in 2017, we are projected to spend nearly 22% of our budget on welfare, and only 18% on defense. Personally I would rather spend our money paying soldiers, developing aircraft, taking care of veterans  and protecting ourselves as opposed to expanding a welfare program that is poorly managed and often taken advantage of.

Romney and Ryan keep saying the reason they have not come out with a plan for taxes is because they plan on working with dems when they get into office. Yet they have a 20% reduction number, did they just pull that number out of there ass? If they didn't pull the number out of the air they actually have a plan and there keeping it quiet imo.

Ryan when asked directly what will happen to middle class taxes and high income taxes only said they will reduce high income taxes to create more jobs. Completely avoided answering what will happen to middle income taxes. Something don't smell right 

Now Matter Which One Of Them Is Speaking, YOU ARE BEING LIED TOO!!!

Originally posted by Oinker Oops! Pardon my poor spelling and grammar…  No Matter Which One Of Them Is Speaking, YOU ARE BEING LIED TO!!!!

That moderator of the VP debate was totally biased. Obama attended her wedding and she attended Obama's wedding. Her then husband worked for Obama and was named agency head by Obama. But the GOP allowed her to be moderator for some reason. Ryan didn't answer several questions from the moderator, but he was constantly being interrupted by Biden when he wasn't laughing. It was definitely interesting to watch.

Too bad we're only a 2 party system. I wonder how many people would have actually voted for Ron Paul if he'd been on the ballot. I like Gary Johnson, but the average American probably doesn't even know that there are more than 2 parties in this country.

Originally posted by Superorb That moderator of the VP debate was totally biased. Obama attended her wedding and she attended Obama's wedding. Her then husband worked for Obama and was named agency head by Obama. But the GOP allowed her to be moderator for some reason. Ryan didn't answer several questions from the moderator, but he was constantly being interrupted by Biden when he wasn't laughing. It was definitely interesting to watch. Too bad we're only a 2 party system. I wonder how many people would have actually voted for Ron Paul if he'd been on the ballot. I like Gary Johnson, but the average American probably doesn't even know that there are more than 2 parties in this country.

Originally posted by Superorb The moderator certainly cut Ryan off several times when he was on a roll and allowed Biden to cut off Ryan as well. I guess the moderator can favor one candidate and not be impartial if they want to.

Originally posted by twolf123 well i felt she did perfectly fine and asked follow ups where she should've...yes, biden came off as impolite but probably did what he was instructed to do (call him a liar without saying "liar") and if you think she was "biased"...well, romney/ryan are PRETTY vague on their plan so it's pretty fair game to ask/drill them on that , while doing "fact checking" simultaneously

Yeah, Ryan was being pretty vague about some things. Biden acted like a kid though. Constant interruptions and launching at everything Ryan said. Just disrespectful in general. As long as the moderators are part of the liberal media I expect bias. Short of remaining silent, it's pretty difficult to be impartial.

Tonight's debate is being held at one of the most liberal universities in the country so I expect Romney to take a beating.

McCain 08 baybayyyy!!

Just like the Biden/Ryan debate. It wasn't Ryan debating Biden. It was Ryan debating Biden AND the moderator. The moderator interupted Ryan almost as much as Biden did.

I think we need a guy in office that has true American spirit. That's why we should all vote for Ralph Nader in 2012!!!

You know he's serious when he's got his own Nader in 2012 facebook page


https://www.facebook.com/RalphNader2012

Originally posted by letourneau41 I think we need a guy in office that has true American spirit. That's why we should all vote for Ralph Nader in 2012!!! You know he's serious when he's got his own Nader in 2012 facebook page https://www.facebook.com/RalphNader2012

Sad that Ron Paul went down in flames.

The problem with Ron Paul isn't that he doesnt get enough attention, the problem with Ron Paul is that he's fvcking crazy. I'd gladly take obama or romney over him. The man's a loon. 

Originally posted by chillwill It's really discouraging to know that the person who would be best for the country isn't even considered.

Politics in America is like a high school popularity contest. He who has the most money will win the election. That, and the average American knows nothing about politics in general.

Romney was so rude to the moderator, he kept on interrupting and ignoring her attempt to stop him until she said okay hurry and make your point haha.  But damn, Romney told Obama, "I'm talking"