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Peekaboo
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Topic: Using Knees in turn initiationPosted: Feb/28/2011 at 7:50pm |
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Im just wondering if it is correct technique to use knees with addition to angle, hip, etc to turn.
I noticed turning into healside I would roll out my knee a bit, and tug my knees going into toeside turns. Any comments? |
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wdi
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Posted: Feb/28/2011 at 7:53pm |
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I think so...well...I do that too, so if it is not "correct", then I am not doing it correctly either....
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spenser
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Posted: Feb/28/2011 at 7:56pm |
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honestly, i find that when people really focus on this stuff and try to make a point of it in their riding, they just end up being awkward and goofy and it ends up holding them back. go with the flow. ride and it will come. once you know the basics of how to turn, or rather what not to do like dont put your weight on your back leg/etc, it will just come in time. learning is a process and the best way to do it with stuff like this is to just keep practicing.. keep sliding, keep turning, and your body will naturally learn it in time.
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jjfreak
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Posted: Mar/01/2011 at 6:54am |
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I agree, there is no real "CORRECT" way to ride....just gotta do what is comfortable and fits you best.
I ride regular and when I turn heel side, I tend to bend my knees a bit and turn my body and it helps
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fishkur
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Posted: Mar/01/2011 at 7:25am |
Coaches and instructors worldwide would disagree with you. |
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CyclopSW
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Posted: Mar/01/2011 at 7:53am |
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Make sure you use your front foot to lead the way you are turning
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bubbagooch
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Posted: Mar/01/2011 at 4:40pm |
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I was taught to use my knees to initiate turns, so I don't see a problem with it. If you are turning smoothly by doing so, then do it and don't worry about it.
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saldimaria
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Posted: Mar/01/2011 at 4:44pm |
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i find with my friend who just started boarding that hes scared to ride on his toe side...i first learned by over dramatically jumping from my heel to toes..never stay flat on the ground...always ride on an edge
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Angry Midget Yo
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Posted: Mar/01/2011 at 4:49pm |
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I think when you move your hip the rest of your lower body moves with it as you twist your hip, which includes your knees. Don't think too much, just ride and see what works for you.
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packfan4ever
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Posted: Mar/01/2011 at 4:55pm |
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you turn your hips which involves using your knees. if your even worried about this your way to tense. you just got to relax and carve mindlessly
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Skoojoo
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Posted: Mar/01/2011 at 5:01pm |
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Ok, there IS a correct way to ride a snowboard. Now, as far as using your knees go, "rolling" your knee is technically correct but can be misinterpreted. If you are riding any level of duck stance, you want to avoid riding with your shoulders predisposed to pointing on your heel edge (aka keeping your shoulders open). On a duck stance you want to use a moderate to extreme "cowboy" stance to relieve twisting pressure on your back knee/ankle as well as improve your edge control. This will not only make your turns more solid but it also created a solid platform for learning to carve and practicing freestyle. The idea is to be able to work up to carving with a very "quiet" upper body, and by quiet i mean little to no moving of shoulders and hips and the turn happens from pressure on the board. This is what those amazing riders you see that can carve and throw down in the park with equal ease are able to do very effectively.
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BboyTommy
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Posted: Mar/02/2011 at 3:34pm |
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think of your lead leg/knee as a joystick. helped me learned to ride switch
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spenser
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Posted: Mar/02/2011 at 4:07pm |
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yes there is a right way to do it, but all i'm saying is that thinking about it so much like this is.... strange. your body figures it out. i've been riding 13 years and i don't remember the last time i thought about what was going on, i just go snowboarding. it comes naturally. and like i said, not that it REALLY matters, but i'm pretty sure the people out there who are really thinking about the mechanics of a turn/etc are the ones that look super goofy and unnatural. that's all i'm sayin....
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bataleon155
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Posted: Mar/02/2011 at 4:16pm |
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it's kind of like trying to walk and think about which foot to go first and where to point your toes. you just making your life harder than it already is.
it's good to notice it when you start boarding, but once you picked up turns and such. it come nature like walking down the street.
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Now What???
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Peekaboo
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Posted: Mar/02/2011 at 4:56pm |
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Spencer is right though...I should just go with the flow and eventually my body will figure it out.
I hate starting out something with a bad. Would rather learn it correctly the first time. I can pretty much carve just fine...but trying to figure out ways to progress. Im stuck right now. |
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shwazy
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Posted: Mar/03/2011 at 10:24pm |
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I think there is absolutely nothing wrong with trying to understand the mechanics of a sport including snowboarding. Thinking about small points like using your hip to initiate a turn...your front knee as a steering guide, your toes and heels to rail on turns can all lead to breakthroughs...or whatever pointer that might work for your riding style. Incidentally there are two primary carving techniques that I am aware of. One you can keep your upper body generally on a line and allow your lower body to pivot back and forth across that line or you can allow your upper body to move in unison with your lower body. Neither is correct nor better but I find the use of hip to come into play very much with the former for initiation but not really at all with the latter. But that is just the sensation I have which can differ from the actual reality...but that is why I do think it can be helpful to play around with different ideas because something might feel right to you and then there you go.
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Peekaboo
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Posted: Mar/16/2011 at 4:56pm |
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I recently tried turning with just lower body and slightly upper...Noticed I could initiate the turn much quicker with less effort. I added some spring action to each turn to allow the boards to go under me, my carves were much smoother with less skidded turns.
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