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noriky
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Topic: Best places to learn for beginners-Posted: Mar/02/2011 at 7:52am |
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Hi! Sadly this winter is close to end, and I'm frantically looking for a 2 or 3 day beginner lesson trip near New York City, later this month. Can you recommend any good place with good snow and good program? Ease to travel to get there there, good lodging/transportation/lift package etc is a big plus too.
I will have Mon off, so I can do Fri - Mon trip. Want to save some energy for Sat riding so hoping to depart Fri evening, with Mon PM return. Right now I have my eyes on Killington, VT, for Learn To Ride program and stable snow conditions. But I am still open for other options, if they sound great! FYI, I am still very beginner so size/number of slopes etc don't matter much, since I will be mostly lower part of slopes {LOL] . As long as the mountain/business is beginner friendly...hopefully less crowded too but that's something we never know until we get there - right? Ahh, I'm so newbie so don't know anything! Please let me know - thank you! |
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C02
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Posted: Mar/02/2011 at 7:55am |
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i dont think your going to be able to ride 3 days in a row...
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snowmen
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Posted: Mar/02/2011 at 8:02am |
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I don't have any specific info on Killington's beginner areas. I would probably hit up a more local mountain as you will not be able to hit up much terrain at Killington (as you stated). You just need to get some time on the snow and that can be done at a smaller mountain closer to you. I would plan a follow-up trip to someplace like Killington after you have come up to speed a bit.
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noriky
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Posted: Mar/02/2011 at 8:03am |
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It's a good point, but I know I can do 2 days at least. And I will take it easy - I will NOT go crazy only to get exhausted by riding like 9 - 5, three days in a row, for example...
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noriky
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Posted: Mar/02/2011 at 8:07am |
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Yes, I agree that I should be more in local mountains near NY, that is actually what I have been doing for the last 6 times However, I found snow gets softer and softer around NY, and rain started in NY mountains :( So now I have to go further, seems no choice.
But if anybody can recommend good mountains without going as far as VT, I am definitely interested!! Honestly, I want to save the travel hour/energy for riding. |
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casanovaa0
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Posted: Mar/02/2011 at 8:07am |
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i think you can stay even more local than killington for a beginner but the conditions will be better there. you'll probably be pretty beat up after one day even if you take it easy. it will be from falling alot.
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noriky
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Posted: Mar/02/2011 at 8:23am |
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Thank you - where would you recommend other than Killington, closer to NYC, specifically please? I'm mostly going there for better snow, so I would love to know!!
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noriky
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Posted: Mar/02/2011 at 8:43am |
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And if this helps: I have rided 6 times, and now I can go down bunny hill with almost no fall, but ONLY on heel side (falling leaf/turning, seems switching goofy/regular no prob for me). Most definitely need to work on toe side but want to do so on nice snow, NOT on icy/slushy snow right now!!! I am also taking a day off from work so hope better chance of good weather. That's the reason I am picking far Killington...
Per trip I usually spend 3 - 5 hours for riding with 1 hour break, and next day I want to do it again but just don't want to make another day trip back to back. So I know at least I can do two days in a row if I stay over nearby. |
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keljai
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Posted: Mar/02/2011 at 8:44am |
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Maybe see if jay peak is closer to tou
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jjfreak
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Posted: Mar/02/2011 at 9:10am |
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Killington will definitely have the best snow closest to NYC area. Great place for beginngers is SHAWNEE MOUNTAIN.
The mountain is very beginner friendly so it will be easy to learn.
The hills are very wide so even if it gets alittle crowded, you will still have room to ride.
The mountain is about an hr and half to 2 hr drive from NYC depending on traffic.
As soon as you cross over to PA from NJ, its 10 min local drive.
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Commissar
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Posted: Mar/02/2011 at 9:11am |
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I would recommend going to a place close by, if there is one, for a day at a time. If you have never been before you are going to be very sore in all sorts of new locations. Your ass is going to be very sore from falling, its just part of learning. Do a couple weekends a month if you are just learning, then head somewhere better next year or if you are quick learner after a weekend or two.
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K8sgotgame
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Posted: Mar/02/2011 at 3:06pm |
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Nothing will be near NYC this time of year - snow is melting in a lot of places. I suggest going to southern VT (it will be closer than Killington). Stratton, Mount Snow and Okemo are great spots. Another is Mt. Sunapee in NH.
If you want something that's quieter, smaller and less expensive hit up Bromley. It's a great family mountain and will satisfy you as far as terrain without being very crowded. I skied there as a kid with my parents and still like to go back every now and then because of the great deals and killer vibe. I think you'll find that all of the mountains listed above have great lesson programs. The Catskills can start getting slushy this time of year compared to VT/NH/ME unless it's super cold so I recommend heading to VT/NH.
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belleayre
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Posted: Mar/02/2011 at 3:11pm |
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Belleayre has a three day learn to ride program for about $130 including rentals, group lessons, and lower mountain lift tickets. They still have snow, I think it will be OK for at least a few weeks.
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koolboy6
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Posted: Mar/02/2011 at 3:14pm |
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Good luck man this snow is melting sooo fast I am trying to find somewhere to snowboard in Ohio right now.
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jerry000
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Posted: Mar/02/2011 at 3:20pm |
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snow is disappearing real fast, but its not too late...near NYC, you vould go to Blue MT or you can hit up Mt Creek. i love creek bacuse south is totally a terrain park, but on the north side there are plenty of beginner trails..
i would recommend getting a triple play card because day passes are expensive at creek.. they also have a promotion for season passes..if you buy a pass for next season you can use it for the rest of this year |
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greenmnmsi
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Posted: Mar/02/2011 at 3:21pm |
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My girlfriend learned in NC, not too shabby, but there were a ton of beginners so she got bumped into a lot. I personally would go to a bigger mountain, less noobs around to knock into you.
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yaya34
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Posted: Mar/02/2011 at 3:23pm |
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If u want to go somewhere closer than killington, go to Windham or Hunter in NY. exit 21 and 22 off the thruway. They are both good mountains. Killington is better but much a further trip. These will take you around 2 hours, Compared to 5 or more
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noriky
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Posted: Mar/02/2011 at 7:48pm |
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Thank you everybody!
I was willing to do the 5 hr trip (I actually enjoy it if I do it with train - I researched it) to VT but I adimit that it would be easier to do 2 - 3 hr trip within NY state... The priority for me is, the quality of snow (Killington tops, I guess). For LTR option, Killington and Belleayre sounds great. If the snow/weather seems holding in next three weeks, and if I don't find a better plan as 3-day LTR package, I would go for Belleayre, thank you again for all the info, everybody!! I will also check with Windham, Hunter (too popular?) and less know mountains mentioned here, such as SHAWNEE, Blue MT, and Mt Creek etc. Even if I don't go any of these, the research should be useful for next winter :) |
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noriky
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Posted: Mar/02/2011 at 7:48pm |
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Thank you everybody!
I was willing to do the 5 hr trip (I actually enjoy it if I do it with train - I researched it) to VT but I adimit that it would be easier to do 2 - 3 hr trip within NY state... The priority for me is, the quality of snow (Killington tops, I guess). For LTR option, Killington and Belleayre sounds great. If the snow/weather seems holding in next three weeks, and if I don't find a better plan as 3-day LTR package, I would go for Belleayre, thank you again for all the info, everybody!! I will also check with Windham, Hunter (too popular?) and less know mountains mentioned here, such as SHAWNEE, Blue MT, and Mt Creek etc. Even if I don't go any of these, the research should be useful for next winter :) |
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jjm550
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Posted: Mar/02/2011 at 7:53pm |
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theres also whiteface ny or gore ny which is way up north but still the same driving distance
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chriskot
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Posted: Mar/02/2011 at 8:14pm |
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Whatever is cheapest is probably best since you won't be going on too much of the mountain. With that being said killington might not be bad because they have such good deals for lodging+lift ticket
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LegalBoarding
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Posted: Mar/03/2011 at 7:35am |
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Hey so I snowboard around the NYC area too.
Here's my list of good beginner mountains: Shawnee (very small mountain, gets crowded, but wide trails) Camelback (mid-size resort but still pretty small. 2 beginner areas with great progressive trails for beginners) Mtn. Creek (Avoid at all costs as a beginner. Gets really crowded and is always packed and icy). Bellayre (mid-size resort, pretty good snow, beginner area as i remember is pretty small) Killington (best mtn on the East if you ask me. Largest resort a lot of trails. Pricey. Several beginner areas. I think you should go here after you learn.) Mt. Snow (mid-size resort. 2 beginner areas. Pretty good for learning, a lot of progressive trails for beginners.) Blue Mtn. (mid-size mountain. It's okay for learning, thats all i really have to say about this one haha.) Hunter (I didn't think this one was great for learning, but it had some decent trails for the intermediate boarder.) I hope this helps!
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EpicFAIL
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Posted: Mar/03/2011 at 7:59am |
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I'm not from the area, but I know that our local mountain does a 3-day learn to board pass which includes the "bunny" or beginner hills, rentals, and lessons (usually 1 hour). Some of them are even guaranteed. If you don't learn to ride within those three days, you can come back and they'll give you more lessons for free.
I would check out the websites to see what they have, as all of our resorts have something similar. They should also have recommendations on places to stay that are 1. close to the mountain, or 2. have a partnership with the mountain to give you discounted prices.
Either way, good luck and ENJOY!!! I remember learning to ride a while ago and not knowing how to turn left. Now when faced with the left turn that stumped us on our first day out, I get a chuckle. Too fun what you can learn if you just keep at it.
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happybik3
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Posted: Mar/06/2011 at 9:21am |
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Killington has a nice, long bunny
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tw0scoops
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Posted: Mar/06/2011 at 9:35am |
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Camelback has great instructors which I believe is more important than having a great hill to prac on. They had me cutting turns within the hour. Haven't needed a lesson since(at least for the basics).
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AJD13
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Posted: Mar/06/2011 at 10:08am |
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I learned at bromley in VT its not to far from killington
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chramiji
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Posted: Mar/06/2011 at 10:34am |
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i learned by going down a blue at mt creek... i wish i was kidding...
it made a exponential difference in my ability to get down a mountain. first time i went in HS i was on the bunny and falling all over the greens second time a year later just falling all over the greens third time three years later going down greens, didnt so well either, it was a short path too at Toronto... 4 years later i was still breaking my ass down greens then I hit a blue trail now i can survive. if i had any more local mountain passes i would offer to help you out... but right now im out of passes. (im in NYC, i usually go to creek... not that i like it but the drive is short.) |
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kirkalicious
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Posted: Mar/06/2011 at 11:03am |
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im a beginner too and have only gone once this season. there's always next year!
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ColaLover
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Posted: Mar/06/2011 at 1:29pm |
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The closest resort near you is a good place lol.
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Posted: Mar/06/2011 at 1:29pm |
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The closest resort near you is a good place lol.
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noriky
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Posted: Mar/06/2011 at 6:14pm |
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Thank you so much again, everybody!! All information is so useful. I seem I now know more than my coworkers do :)
I was researching all the destinations mentioned here, for my late March Fri - Mon trip, and I'm most likely go for Bellayre with 1 or 2 night lodging for LTR package. Found some reviews (including comments here )that this place tends to hold snow well in March. They have Sat morning departure and Mon PM return bus - perfect! Now I wish for a good weather - at least no rain/storm please!!
I originally almost picked Killington but gave up as there was no good return transportation on Mon. The issue is that I don't drive at all - so bus/train/airplane are only options. Another issue is that I realized even Killington/other VT locations seem not immune to spring weather/snow. Money and traveling time wasn't no much issue to me (as I so determine to nail down more basics before winter ends!!), but I don't mean to waste it :( I guess I will do it in early/mid winter next year.
Yes I totally agree that the nearest/cheapest is the best, and I went to Thunder Ridge for my first 6 times, that is the nearest and probably tiniest, but did a trick to me to get used to snow/the board/how ski resort works etc, saving my energy with easy train travel so I could ride and fall more... Alas, spring is already here and now I have no choice but wake up early for 3hr+ bus travel...hope it is worth it!
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chriskot
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Posted: Mar/06/2011 at 6:57pm |
Always seems really packed tho
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Posted: Mar/06/2011 at 7:06pm |
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Somewhere cheap.
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belleayre
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Posted: Mar/07/2011 at 4:02am |
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Belleayre's base was still great Saturday, not sure what it looks like now. You'll love it after riding Thunder Ridge. The trails on the bottom half of the mountain served by lifts 1 and 2 are nice, wide beginner trails. More experienced riders will be on the top half of the mountain or headed to Superchief, the detachable quad, so you won't find a lot of people bombing down the green trails. Stay at the Northland, which is just one mile from the mountain in Fleischman's. Dated but clean.
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Yankeefanmvp
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Posted: Mar/07/2011 at 10:29am |
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Go to mountain creek or Camp Gaw and learn
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Posted: Mar/07/2011 at 10:54am |
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l dont know about you, but l dont think your trip will be feasible. its like raining on tuesday wednesday and that will most likely kill what snow is left
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rem209
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Posted: Mar/11/2011 at 6:41am |
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Killington does have an awesome learn to ride program. It's sponsored by Burton. Also, mtn creek i think has good programs too and it only 1.5 hrs from nyc while killington is 5 hrs. I'm a big fan of killington and def recommend it! If you're gonna get 2-3 days of riding in, killington may be a good place to go. (also, if you go with other ppl who know how to board, they prob would be interested in a bigger, more challenging mtn.
hope that helps!
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Posted: Mar/11/2011 at 7:31am |
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say the bunny hill.
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