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    Posted: Oct/02/2011 at 5:46pm
Hey all winter is just around the corner and I am looking to buy my first board for the upcoming season.. Last year I learned how to board taking a dozen trips to Shawnee MT, once to blue mt, and finally Mont Tremblant which was a blast.. ok so I am looking for a board that i can progress with being able to enhance my basic skills and allow me to eventually get into the park for some jumps.. I had the opportunity to try out a Burton v-rocker on Mont Tremblant, Canada which I did enjoy; however the board didn't feel very stable at high speeds. This could of been attributed to the fact that the board was 155cm a little too short being I am about 200 lbs. Anyway looking for some board options and sound advice I was looking at either the Burton bullet, k2 Raygun, or k2 www I don't really have a preference on make just want reliable thx guys..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/02/2011 at 5:47pm
Gnu Carbon Credit, rode mine for a season and ended up having to sell it. Great board, and the Magnetraction will save you more times than you can imagine as a beginner.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/02/2011 at 5:54pm
if you want a whole set, you might as well get one of the sierra packages.

ps. you were stable because of the v rocker
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/02/2011 at 5:55pm
Yea I took a look at the gnu carbon credit on the site seemed to be a sweet buy for it's price. I wasn't sure if it was durable enough being as I read so reviews on top sheet comes apart but I believe you gotta look through bias reviews
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/02/2011 at 5:58pm
How are the sierra boards? They package seems like a good deal but was a little skeptical. I did like the crew but I would need atleast a wide board as I hve size 11 boot
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/02/2011 at 6:03pm
You're going to be able to learn off most things, but get a cambered board, at this early stage you really don't know if it's skill or experience that's letting you down but if you get a cambered it'll teach you the basics. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/02/2011 at 6:07pm
youll be able to learn the basics on just about anything, dont get too caught up in your gear just yet
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/02/2011 at 6:21pm
Buy and invest in boots first.

Invest more in your set-up if you're taking a dozen trips.  You're kind of all over the place with what you're looking at, a beginner's board (bullet), a park weapon (WWW), and a budget all-mountain stick (Raygun).

I'd say invest at least $400 retail (or more).  Look at stuff marketed all-mountain in the 158-162 range.  I'm roughly your size and I ride a 159-ish as my everything board.  Don't over thinking it to much, it's mostly preference and you're not in a place to know your preferences.  Just practice technique and INVEST IN BOOTS.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/02/2011 at 6:33pm
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boots are the most important piece. if you can, go to a shop/store and try on as many pairs as you can. it's worth it even if you have to drive a little far.
also highly suggest cambered board. in short, it's more apparent when you do something wrong on camber compare to a reverse camber.
for size, any where around 160, + or -, 2cm. with a waist width of at least 251mm.
k2 www is a complete noodle, i wouldn't suggest that for your first and only board.
sierra crew package will be a good start.    
also you can check out used boards and bindings
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/02/2011 at 6:35pm
Originally posted by kimchijajonshim

Buy and invest in boots first.Invest more in your set-up if you're taking a dozen trips.  You're kind of all over the place with what you're looking at, a beginner's board (bullet), a park weapon (WWW), and a budget all-mountain stick (Raygun).I'd say invest at least $400 retail (or more).  Look at stuff marketed all-mountain in the 158-162 range.  I'm roughly your size and I ride a 159-ish as my everything board.  Don't over thinking it to much, it's mostly preference and you're not in a place to know your preferences.  Just practice technique and INVEST IN BOOTS.



YES invest in boots I wish someone had told me that in the beginning. Got bleh boots for my firsts feet were KILLING me and it made the mountain not fun on day 2 of a trip.

Also dont get hung up on details for your first purchased board id say try and find a last years model freestyle. Gonna help you with the allmountain as a newb and will be able to hang in the park. If your looking to do a good amount of groomers id say something thats camber.

Just my .02 cents like he said dont over think.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/03/2011 at 5:39am
Well I did buy boots last season "Ride Orine" size 11 foe the most part I enjoyed them as they are lighter and have a snugg fit compared to rentals.. I did try on other boots some priced more than others. I was able to pick them up for $95 on sale. I actually took them to Mont Tremblant and thought they did well
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/03/2011 at 5:44am
For a first buy I suppose it was a good deal and didn't really have any complaints.. I expect I will get good use out of them but forsee I will probably upgrade to the pull strap technology both inner and outer boot. The Ride Orine on use the pull strap inner boot and laced outer.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/03/2011 at 5:48am
You can have a look at some of the boards suggested in Ippy's Snowboard Buying Guide. It will probably be pretty helpful!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/03/2011 at 5:58am
i suggest the sierra reverse crew. i went through my first year last year on a board that wasnt very forgiving and then i won the reverse crew and my skills probably doubled in the 2 end of season days i rode that board cuz its so easy and fun to ride
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/03/2011 at 6:26am
Are there any advantages or disadvantages to reverse camber or just a mater of preference?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/03/2011 at 6:36am
it makes it more buttery. the board has of a float but now not as great for turning
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/03/2011 at 6:38am
Ippy's guide is pretty interspersed with comments on the perils and benefits of different camber, but in short:
 
Reverse camber is less "catchy" because the contact points are raised off the snow. This is good and bad. The good is that it is (feels) easier on the beginner to learn because they will catch an edge less and end up with nasty scorpion falls and whatnot. I say "(feels)" because reverse camber also allows you to get away with more poor technique without the consequences of a fall as a result. This is why a lot of folks will tell you to learn on camber - pain is a cruel mistress, but will teach you proper technique and force good habits on you from the start.
As you progress, you'll also find that, if you want to ride more aggressively, the "looseness" of reverse camber may not fit you, but that's where it starts to be more about preference.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/03/2011 at 6:38am
Rocker'd boards are much more forgiving in the "catch an edge" department..... but you def sacrifice turning and stopping power.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/03/2011 at 6:45am
if you didn't like the v rocker you tried, and felt like it wasn't as stable, i would probably stay away from it.  i personally am not a huge fan of rocker except for pow, and if you're just going to have one board for the time being, i would go camber.  the sierra crew is a good choice.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/03/2011 at 6:50am
I see now. How do the sierra boards hold up in terms of durability now I know if you do crazy jumps every day any board will take a beating but in general comparable to other mainstream boards?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/03/2011 at 8:35am
Originally posted by Aric889

I see now. How do the sierra boards hold up in terms of durability now I know if you do crazy jumps every day any board will take a beating but in general comparable to other mainstream boards?

they're made by burton, just rebranded by sierra.  so if you think burton boards hold up fine, then it won't be a problem.  i don't think many people have had problems with them at all.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/03/2011 at 8:55am
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Originally posted by Aric889

I see now. How do the sierra boards hold up in terms of durability now I know if you do crazy jumps every day any board will take a beating but in general comparable to other mainstream boards?

they're made by burton, just rebranded by sierra.  so if you think burton boards hold up fine, then it won't be a problem.  i don't think many people have had problems with them at all.


The Sierra Team was made buy Flow.. the rest of the Sierra line was made buy Burton.

There were a few delam probs on the v-spot I have heard from a few ppl.  I have not heard of any probs w/ the other boards
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/03/2011 at 9:43am
So expect Burton quality..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/03/2011 at 10:05am
Originally posted by MikeD13559

Originally posted by panther

Originally posted by Aric889

I see now. How do the sierra boards hold up in terms of durability now I know if you do crazy jumps every day any board will take a beating but in general comparable to other mainstream boards?

they're made by burton, just rebranded by sierra.  so if you think burton boards hold up fine, then it won't be a problem.  i don't think many people have had problems with them at all.


The Sierra Team was made buy Flow.. the rest of the Sierra line was made buy Burton.

There were a few delam probs on the v-spot I have heard from a few ppl.  I have not heard of any probs w/ the other boards



C'mon, there was the infamous "topsheet scratches easily" issue on the RC!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/03/2011 at 10:42am
Originally posted by Aric889

I see now. How do the sierra boards hold up in terms of durability now I know if you do crazy jumps every day any board will take a beating but in general comparable to other mainstream boards?

Outside of the Team, topsheets will be very weak.  But I came up jumping a staircase on the Crew, smacked a step with my tail, and was pretty surprised I didn't come away with any significant base damage.  They're a solid value.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/03/2011 at 10:54am
is as durable as burton's other boards... well besides the topsheet, gets scratch somewhat easier than most boards. is no big deal though, for me at least. you can try to file down the edge of the topsheet to prevent most scratches, but have some stickers on the side to be ready to cover em up.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/03/2011 at 11:17am
My fam bam rolls with Sierra Stunt, RC, and Burton and we never had any topsheet issues even when other people ram their boards into ours.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/03/2011 at 12:29pm
You should get the capita ultrafear. that board is simply amazing. I decided to get my first board as well this year but i have riden a lot of demo boards from the local shop. Depends on what you truly want to do with it. you said jumps and park so maybe check out some nitro boards out as well. I picked up the 2011 capita horrorscope fk for mainly park and powder riding. i would recommend that board to you but you want to do jumps as well. Depending on how big you want to go, this board may not be right for you. If you're staying under 25ft i would use this board. flex is amazing and jibbing is pretty awesome as well. If you do get a capita board i would definitely recommend the union contact bindings because they flex with the board and all and is all around sick set up that you would simply love. The reverse camber allows you to have that flex if you like to sometimes take the board through the powder it bounces off the powder without killing your back leg yanking back the whole time. Best of luck
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I'm selling my 09 palmer p-line, its a great beginner board, can handle anything but rails...obviously you can but I prefer something a bit softer for rails...great for jumps and carving...its camber ...not in classifieds so if your interested message me
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/03/2011 at 11:44pm
Don't overthink it.  Board selection is ALL preference and right now you don't really know your preferences.  You didn't like a 155 V-rock because it felt unstable.  Get something longer.  Maybe get something cambered or with an element of camber.  Just nab the Crew.  Or check craigslist and find a cheap cambered stick in the 158-161 range.  Ride it into the ground.  Determine what you do and don't like about it, factor that into your next purchase.  But at this point, you don't know enough to legitimately be afflicted with paralysis by analysis.
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