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    Posted: Oct/07/2011 at 6:22am
Novice in the backcountry area. This season i'm hoping to step up and take some courses for avalanche safety. Any  recommendation on shovels that is light for hiking but still strong enough to lift a lot of snow. something ergonomic that wont kill the back? any design flaws to watch out for and so forth? 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/07/2011 at 6:37am
I have an old BCA shovel that has always done the job.  As a rule: less plastic is better.  It adds weight, but I don't want a plastic shovel trying to dig me out!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/07/2011 at 6:37am
Get a metal shovel.  Plastic deflects in hard, icy snow, metal chops.

I prefer shovels with extendable shafts.  Makes it easier to shovel large amounts of snow and to dig deeper.  If you are using it in a burial situation, the average amount of snow you'll need to move is 2 tons.  That's a lot of snow.

Voile, Black Diamond, G3, Ortovox, all make good metal shovels.  If you can get one with a blade that comes to a diamond point, all the better.  The point makes chopping icy blocks easier, which is also something you are likely to find in avalanche debris. 

The neck of the blade is something to look for.  A long neck can make stashing it in you pack problematic.  Depends on what you have.  It's not a deal breaker either though.

Don't forget a beacon and probe.  Get a 3 antenna digital beacon and a 300cm probe.  Especially if you are on the west coast where the snowpack gets super deep.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/07/2011 at 7:20am
^^^ have to second all of KC's comments.  Also, even though you'll need to move a lot of snow with it, you don't necessarily need a big blade -- when you're digging through avy deposits (or practicing doing so) it's pretty much concrete.  You need something you can stab in hard with, then pull back toward you.  in addition to potentially digging out your popsicle friends, you'll also be using it to dig pits and snow caves, (not to mention snow toilets) and you'll be carrying the damn thing around with you alot.  So take some time to look though the selection and ask the store personnel/experts about their thoughts too
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/07/2011 at 7:29am
Yeah, I didn't mention blade size.  Overall, I think all avalanche shovels have a big enough blade size for the job.  A bigger blade just means more weight you can move, which is also more effort to move that load.  A smaller blade moves less snow, but takes less effort.  I have not really seen any studies that say one is much better over the other.  This is preference.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/07/2011 at 7:57am
If you are going to be riding with a consistent partner (aka the same person most of the time), you should buy each other shovels.  Since if he has to dig you out you will know he has a great shovel (since you bought it to save your own life). 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/07/2011 at 8:22am
I would get the backpack first and then the shovel bc how they fit matters. I would get one with a shovel pocket.  what I learned in my avy class is; The best is something you can leave the together and get fast. Or have that option. Not wasting time getting a shovel together is great.
I would go to REI or local stores and get your hands on a few of them and see what you like.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/07/2011 at 9:52am
Awesome, thanks for all info. I make sure i put them all to great use.
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