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Direct Link To This Post Topic: Which would you prefer on chop/ice conditions...gr
    Posted: Dec/22/2011 at 8:27am
I was in a discussion with a buddy in regards to hard charging a groomer when it's just chop,crud and ice. We both agreed the fear (at least in us) is the board jumping around which can cause the catching of an edge more easily. So the discussion moved to different decks and the topic of one deck having great grip with decent damping vs great damping with decent edge hold.

So which would be better in the chop,crud, ice in terms of the deck not getting thrown around and slipping right under you? Greater grip or greater damping?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/22/2011 at 9:38am
I try not to lay down an edge when conditions are shitty.  you'll hold an egde great one second and be on your ass the next because someone left the snow-gun on too long.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/22/2011 at 10:02am
Hmm I usually just try to go slower.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/22/2011 at 10:08am
L try to go slower and less risky moves
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/22/2011 at 10:13am
If conditions suck too bad, I'll just leave the hill.  I'd say I'd rather get grip though, chatter I can deal with, not being able to get a controling edge ain't my gig.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/22/2011 at 1:07pm
A stiffer board will help through the chop, I try to just run straight and not try anything special until out of the crud.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/22/2011 at 1:28pm
I'd take chop ice any day for edge control..the runs with bumps and shatter is easy to adapt too but not being able to cut is a worse feeling to me just like driving a car with no brakes.I'd figure it's best just to ride in all snow conditions that way you build a good tolerance of riding anywhere ,any type of snow condition without having to worry about eating it and still have a great time even tho conditions are at it's worst.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/22/2011 at 2:59pm
I like to have an edge and have the mobility rather than the dampening. To me going through the bad icy chop the first few times is like relearning to snowboard and adjust. The first few times through was terrifying to me. I shredded the fingers of a glove that day
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/22/2011 at 3:28pm
I have a board now with Magnatraction... so I've got plenty of grip!  So now, I can set up my body, boots, and bindings to dampen more.  So nice on those days!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/22/2011 at 3:37pm
chop. you can at least play around in it since you shouldnt be going as fast. if its ice, then i sure hope my edges were just tuned.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/23/2011 at 5:31am
Anything but ice! Can't do much on icy conditions. Might as well not ride.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/23/2011 at 7:01am
Ice does stink. Even though I haven't had too many days in it I ate shit really bad when my board washed out underneath me due to dull edges. Never again!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/23/2011 at 7:16am
I don't know... ice is so hard to navigate even when you do have something that grips a nice edge. Best thing to do is just bomb it. Maybe Xavier de la Rue would have some good advice, considering he's done this:

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/23/2011 at 8:20am
i just try to slow down as much as possible
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/23/2011 at 8:37am

more grip so at leat you're in control..you can dampen with your legs..but if you have no grip, you're just sliding out of control..and just slow down...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/23/2011 at 8:55am
Jeez, ice is where I ate it bad. Use the board with the edge hold and let your body do the dampening. And PLEASE wear a helmet. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/23/2011 at 9:13am
Second that, get some magnetraction...awesome. You won't really notice how great it is till you get to the bottom of a slope and your mate says how much he hated the icy patches...and you say 'what icy patches :).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/23/2011 at 3:58pm
you know even though this isn't a perfect world you can still have both, pretty amazing but people do make damp boards that manage to have great edge hold as well. MTX is sweet I agree with the others who mentioned mervins are also usually a very damp board.

Oh I read a thing on that run over all the ice I'm pretty sure he used ice axes to help turn and stuff which is pretty freaking crazy I can't imagine planting an ax that fast and precise and pulling it out over and over again at those speeds on a pitch like that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/23/2011 at 11:32pm
Hey, what's wrong with chop man??!! jk Edge is way more important than dampening, your knees should be doing all of that anyway.
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