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  Quote Nickaledoe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: THE WAX THREAD!!!
    Posted: Mar/12/2014 at 9:02am
Meh, I know everyone gets scared about this technique, I guess I would have to say if you are not comfortable at moving a heat gun at the right amount of speed and distance over your board then you should stay away from this method.

Other then that I have been doing this on my sierra board and my board is waxed every single time I go out. I have had no damage to the board yet, and I don't stick to rails because I have a fresh wax every time.

An iron can do the same damage to your board if you leave it over a spot too long, the same thing can happen with a heat gun. Although, the heat gun gets hotter faster and there needs to be extra attention to how fast you move it over the board.
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  Quote vicente Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/03/2014 at 10:50pm
bjvinson you're doing it the right way it's better for your board to use to much then to little wax, just a bit more work on your end is all. The wax helps protect your base from the direct heat of the iron kinda provides a insulating layer to keep it from being to harsh. 

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  Quote bjvinson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/03/2014 at 5:25pm
Thanks for the tip. Hopefully they ship to Australia! I have just started waxing my board myself and I'm sure I have been using too much wax. I figure I'd rather scrape extra off and make sure I get proper cover until I get the hang of it!
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  Quote bjvinson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/03/2014 at 4:14pm
Thanks for the tip. Hopefully they ship to Australia! I have just started waxing my board myself and I'm sure I have been using too much wax. I figure I'd rather scrape extra off and make sure I get proper cover until I get the hang of it!
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  Quote MikeD13559 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/03/2014 at 3:06pm
Originally posted by bjvinson

So, if you don't need too much wax, how many waxes do you reckon you would get from http://www.trusnow.com/Fast-Wax-HS-Wax.asp 80g wax bar? 


  Maybe 6 or so?  But, that's a cold temp wax. Not sure how much -5 to 15 degree riding you do. 

  You may want some all temp wax instead, or as well.  I'd recommend getting some hertel super hot sauce.  It's really inexpensive for the quality!  A 3/4lb brick is $20.95 from amazon. (about $30 shipped) http://www.amazon.com/Hertel-Super-Sauce-Temperature-Snowboard/dp/B000GAYNXO
My 3/4lb brick has lasted me over 2 seasons of waxing every 3-4 times I ride or so.  I ride 30-40 days a season. 
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  Quote bjvinson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/03/2014 at 2:28pm
So, if you don't need too much wax, how many waxes do you reckon you would get from http://www.trusnow.com/Fast-Wax-HS-Wax.asp 80g wax bar? 
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  Quote belleayre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/03/2014 at 2:05pm
The temperature from a heat gun is way too high to risk holding it there for too long. After you get used to waxing, you don't use that much wax. Dripping it around the edges and spreading it with the iron to the middle is a good idea once the board has a good base layer of wax. Also, buy a snowboard wax iron- is that $40 really going to matter much compared to what this sport costs?
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  Quote MikeD13559 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/02/2014 at 8:21pm
Originally posted by bataleon155

what did i just watch? why would you try to ruin your base to just save a few cents on wax? is common sense really not that common nowadays? you can easily get a 130g wax from dick's sport or some sort for 10 dollars.

exactly!!
or 3/4lbs of hertel for about $30 shipped.
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  Quote bataleon155 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/02/2014 at 7:10pm
what did i just watch? why would you try to ruin your base to just save a few cents on wax? is common sense really not that common nowadays? you can easily get a 130g wax from dick's sport or some sort for 10 dollars.
hmmm... Now What???   
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  Quote MikeD13559 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/02/2014 at 6:16pm
^ Wax is cheap.. your board is not.   better to have a little too much on  your board and give your board a proper waxing than to try to save wax.
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  Quote Nickaledoe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/26/2014 at 10:29am
Also just remebered if you want to save a ton on wax then you should use this method.

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  Quote Nickaledoe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/26/2014 at 10:27am
http://www.ebay.com/itm/330830848329?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

That is what I got for my wax, figured I probably would not find something cheaper.
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  Quote mbesp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/26/2014 at 6:52am
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MBesp I'm thinking about making a bulk hertel order and splitting it up my prices will be better then from hertel unless you order over 25 ounces. let me know if you'd want some and I will probably put in the order. 


I'm interested, would be nice to know what prices you'll get 
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  Quote sixpoint Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/26/2014 at 4:01am
Originally posted by loowee2

What do you guys do with the gouges on the bottom of your boards?  Fill em with wax???  I want to try ptex but not sure if I'll end up makin it worse.
It depends on the depth of the gouge.
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  Quote vicente Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/25/2014 at 9:23pm
MBesp I'm thinking about making a bulk hertel order and splitting it up my prices will be better then from hertel unless you order over 25 ounces. let me know if you'd want some and I will probably put in the order. 

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Anyone seeing any good sales on wax yet?
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Yep, Big gouge=ptex    Wax will just come out after 1run
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  Quote coolz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/28/2013 at 5:48pm
if its a light one, wax will fill it, but it not a ptex job is your best bet 
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  Quote loowee2 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/28/2013 at 1:18pm
What do you guys do with the gouges on the bottom of your boards?  Fill em with wax???  I want to try ptex but not sure if I'll end up makin it worse.
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  Quote chenmt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/26/2013 at 12:41pm
as vermont rider pointed out already. rub on wax is temporary. usually for racing or if midday your board is really dried out and you dont want to pay the mountain to hot wax your board. if you think about it, rub on wax isn't melted and thus it doesn't get into smaller pores in your board nor will it go as deep.
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  Quote ameration Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/25/2013 at 11:35am
Originally posted by VermontRider

You can just buff it on. No need to strip anything. It will strip itself off in a few runs. It is really good, if you are racing, but isn't a long term solution.



OK, so really it is just used as a "quick touch up" type wax in between hot waxes, right?
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  Quote VermontRider Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/22/2013 at 11:26am
You can just buff it on. No need to strip anything. It will strip itself off in a few runs. It is really good, if you are racing, but isn't a long term solution.
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  Quote ameration Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/22/2013 at 11:23am
So I just got all my stuff to start hot waxing my boards and the place I got some of the stuff from gave me a small container of the Dakine Afterburner Paste Wax. There are no directions on the container but I am guessing that it is pretty much just a rub it on and then wipe off touch-up, quick fix wax, right?

Would I need to strip it off before I re-hot wax the board if I was to use the paste wax in a pinch between hot waxes?

Is this stuff any good or is it garbage?

Anything else that I need to know about paste waxes?

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  Quote ameration Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/19/2013 at 9:14am
I just bought the last few items I need to do it myself too. My buddy has been using the SVST Ultra wax on mine when he's done my boards in the past.
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You won't get a discount, but you will get laughed at. No offense (because you haven't actually done it), but a shop would think you were a dill-rod for bringing in your own wax.  It's bad enough you're paying someone 15 bucks a pop to wax your board, but to go out and buy wax that you think might be better than what the shop uses is pretty douchy.  If you're gonna buy wax, then buy an iron and scraper and start doing it yourself

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  Quote nifeblade Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/17/2013 at 10:49am
do shops let you bring your own wax when you want your gear waxed? and if they do do they give you a discount for bringing your own wax?
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  Quote DiRtDeViL Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/06/2013 at 4:19am
I meant rub on wax, so if I could hot wax every 3 to 5 rides there's no need to rub any wax between runs; cool.
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  Quote coolz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/05/2013 at 3:20pm
if you really meant rub on wax, l say no need, just hot wax every 3-5 days 
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  Quote coolz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/05/2013 at 3:19pm
if you really meant rub on wax, l say no need, just hot wax every 3-5 days 
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rub on wax?
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Originally posted by DiRtDeViL

Quick question, after having my board hot waxed at the shop is it good practice to cold wax it after a day of riding or I'm just wasting my time?

whats cold waxing
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Quick question, after having my board hot waxed at the shop is it good practice to cold wax it after a day of riding or I'm just wasting my time?
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  Quote coolz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/18/2013 at 7:33am
l use a file and lay my scraper flat on top of it 
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What do you guys reccomend for sharpening scrapers at home?
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there is too much to look through but this is definetly the best video i have seen for waxing a board. this guy is a pro. just like the video says no annoying kid or music. this guy is top notch. please take this down if it is already posted. thanks,
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brand VS brand doesn't matter.  for the most part it's just the same paraffin waxes, and the additives used are usually the same too, depending which type of wax it is.  there are only a couple examples where the formulas actually differ, like hertel's hot sauce.  that's not to say there is a performance difference, but we're just talking formulas here.

in short, warmer wax is softer, as it works better with wet conditions and the snow crystals present during said conditions.  colder wax is harder, as colder snow crystals are more abrasive, so a harder wax stands up to that better.  as far as additives, fluorocarbon is a common one for warmer waxes, as it is a hydrophobic chemical and can enhance performance when there's more moisture in the snow.  there are other common additives that are pretty much standard across the board as well.

when it comes down to it, brands don't matter, and getting too into which wax you're using is kind of pointless unless you're a hardcore racer that needs to shave every millisecond off your race time.

if you are a normal person that just goes and snowboards and you don't want to think about it much, get a normal all-temp.  if you want something all temp that may be even more well rounded, try something like OBJ black magic, which has graphite.  what I've heard is that graphite helps bead water better in wet conditions, and reduces static drag in colder/dryer conditions.  and then if you do like to get a little more specific, just get any temp-specific wax that fits the given conditions.  outside of that, it's 99% over-thought by all snowboarders and skiers.  the important part is that your board is waxed in general.
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  Quote snowj720 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/10/2013 at 5:46pm
different waxes do different things (i.e.- are better for different snow conditions), but unless you're a hard core racer or on a pro level you probably won't notice a huge difference between different waxes.  I can't remember what type of wax I use on my hot wax jobs, but when it comes to rub on I've been using a swix universal for years and I have no complaints.  As long as you wax your board (and it doesn't have to be lib tech wax) you should be good to go.  It's about protecting the base and keeping your p-tex nice and moist. 
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  Quote coolz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/10/2013 at 4:37pm
l think its just a marketing scheme to be honest. Just use any wax and it will have same effect 
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is it the best idea to use lib tech's wax on their boards, or is there a better all around wax I should use?
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  Quote rye Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/10/2013 at 4:24pm
me personally, l dont see much of a difference. l now just use all temp wax 
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  Quote Jibmonkey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/10/2013 at 4:05pm
what is everybody's opinion on using all temp in comparision to say cold temp / spring(warm) temp wax? Noticeable differences? Not too sure if there are enough hardcore waxers here
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this is a great collection of info!!!!
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Originally posted by patman765

I'm starting to wax my board now and I've been using just a basic old beat up iron. But for Christmas I think i'm gonna pick up the Dakine Super Tune Kit just so i have it all. Does anyone have anything good to say about it? The reviews are somewhat neutral so I was just trying to see if anyone here had tried it?
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I use whatever it comes with except for the wax, I use swix instead.  I got the dakine because I found it on sale for really cheap.  It gets the job done.  
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Originally posted by patman765

I'm starting to wax my board now and I've been using just a basic old beat up iron. But for Christmas I think i'm gonna pick up the Dakine Super Tune Kit just so i have it all. Does anyone have anything good to say about it? The reviews are somewhat neutral so I was just trying to see if anyone here had tried it?
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I have it, it's decent. But get a better scraper than the one that comes with dakine. Gets dull really quick.
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  Quote CassinoNorth Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/05/2013 at 11:05am
Just got Hertel's wax in the mail, first day using the waxed board will be tomorrow, let's see how good it is.
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  Quote coolz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/16/2012 at 6:08am
^l have that too, its fine, just be sure to hold your wire so it doesnt melt. i actually dont use the bag it comes it, i find it hard to put back in unless l get the wax off properly
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  Quote patman765 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/16/2012 at 6:01am
I'm starting to wax my board now and I've been using just a basic old beat up iron. But for Christmas I think i'm gonna pick up the Dakine Super Tune Kit just so i have it all. Does anyone have anything good to say about it? The reviews are somewhat neutral so I was just trying to see if anyone here had tried it?
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Nice photo of your setup, Cooperla. Kudos.
Originally posted by gsoccer04

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You can use one with the steam holes in it as well.... Just use it on a low enough heat to melt the wax and not burn it. And just keep it somewhat clean if it does get any build up around the ports. No need for a $50 wax iron when a $3 thrift store iron will work just as well.

I use a folding travel iron -- no holes for steam -- that I got for $1 at a thrift store. It just doesn't work as well as my buddy's waxing iron, that he got on sale for $20 or something like that. The rounded bottom edges of his iron float right onto the wax drips, and get them flat and spread out quickly. With my $1 travel iron, the edge crashes into the wax drips. I have to tilt the iron a little to get onto the drips, and getting a nice even coat takes noticeably longer. The iron I have works for now, but I'll be watching for end-of-season sales on waxing irons made by Swix etc.
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it's a bit messy but very rewarding to do yourself. and you can notice the difference.
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