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  Quote loowee2 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: THE WAX THREAD!!!
    Posted: Mar/28/2013 at 1:18pm
What do you guys do with the gouges on the bottom of your boards?  Fill em with wax???  I want to try ptex but not sure if I'll end up makin it worse.
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  Quote coolz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/28/2013 at 5:48pm
if its a light one, wax will fill it, but it not a ptex job is your best bet 
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  Quote Mandiiella Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/24/2013 at 6:08am
Yep, Big gouge=ptex    Wax will just come out after 1run
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  Quote mbesp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/25/2014 at 8:36pm
Anyone seeing any good sales on wax yet?
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  Quote vicente Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/25/2014 at 9:23pm
MBesp I'm thinking about making a bulk hertel order and splitting it up my prices will be better then from hertel unless you order over 25 ounces. let me know if you'd want some and I will probably put in the order. 

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  Quote sixpoint Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/26/2014 at 4:01am
Originally posted by loowee2

What do you guys do with the gouges on the bottom of your boards?  Fill em with wax???  I want to try ptex but not sure if I'll end up makin it worse.
It depends on the depth of the gouge.
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  Quote mbesp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/26/2014 at 6:52am
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MBesp I'm thinking about making a bulk hertel order and splitting it up my prices will be better then from hertel unless you order over 25 ounces. let me know if you'd want some and I will probably put in the order. 


I'm interested, would be nice to know what prices you'll get 
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/330830848329?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

That is what I got for my wax, figured I probably would not find something cheaper.
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  Quote Nickaledoe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/26/2014 at 10:29am
Also just remebered if you want to save a ton on wax then you should use this method.

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  Quote MikeD13559 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/02/2014 at 6:16pm
^ Wax is cheap.. your board is not.   better to have a little too much on  your board and give your board a proper waxing than to try to save wax.
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  Quote bataleon155 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/02/2014 at 7:10pm
what did i just watch? why would you try to ruin your base to just save a few cents on wax? is common sense really not that common nowadays? you can easily get a 130g wax from dick's sport or some sort for 10 dollars.
hmmm... Now What???   
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  Quote MikeD13559 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/02/2014 at 8:21pm
Originally posted by bataleon155

what did i just watch? why would you try to ruin your base to just save a few cents on wax? is common sense really not that common nowadays? you can easily get a 130g wax from dick's sport or some sort for 10 dollars.

exactly!!
or 3/4lbs of hertel for about $30 shipped.
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  Quote belleayre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/03/2014 at 2:05pm
The temperature from a heat gun is way too high to risk holding it there for too long. After you get used to waxing, you don't use that much wax. Dripping it around the edges and spreading it with the iron to the middle is a good idea once the board has a good base layer of wax. Also, buy a snowboard wax iron- is that $40 really going to matter much compared to what this sport costs?
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  Quote bjvinson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/03/2014 at 2:28pm
So, if you don't need too much wax, how many waxes do you reckon you would get from http://www.trusnow.com/Fast-Wax-HS-Wax.asp 80g wax bar? 
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  Quote MikeD13559 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/03/2014 at 3:06pm
Originally posted by bjvinson

So, if you don't need too much wax, how many waxes do you reckon you would get from http://www.trusnow.com/Fast-Wax-HS-Wax.asp 80g wax bar? 


  Maybe 6 or so?  But, that's a cold temp wax. Not sure how much -5 to 15 degree riding you do. 

  You may want some all temp wax instead, or as well.  I'd recommend getting some hertel super hot sauce.  It's really inexpensive for the quality!  A 3/4lb brick is $20.95 from amazon. (about $30 shipped) http://www.amazon.com/Hertel-Super-Sauce-Temperature-Snowboard/dp/B000GAYNXO
My 3/4lb brick has lasted me over 2 seasons of waxing every 3-4 times I ride or so.  I ride 30-40 days a season. 
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  Quote bjvinson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/03/2014 at 4:14pm
Thanks for the tip. Hopefully they ship to Australia! I have just started waxing my board myself and I'm sure I have been using too much wax. I figure I'd rather scrape extra off and make sure I get proper cover until I get the hang of it!
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  Quote bjvinson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/03/2014 at 5:25pm
Thanks for the tip. Hopefully they ship to Australia! I have just started waxing my board myself and I'm sure I have been using too much wax. I figure I'd rather scrape extra off and make sure I get proper cover until I get the hang of it!
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  Quote vicente Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/03/2014 at 10:50pm
bjvinson you're doing it the right way it's better for your board to use to much then to little wax, just a bit more work on your end is all. The wax helps protect your base from the direct heat of the iron kinda provides a insulating layer to keep it from being to harsh. 

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  Quote Nickaledoe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/12/2014 at 9:02am
Meh, I know everyone gets scared about this technique, I guess I would have to say if you are not comfortable at moving a heat gun at the right amount of speed and distance over your board then you should stay away from this method.

Other then that I have been doing this on my sierra board and my board is waxed every single time I go out. I have had no damage to the board yet, and I don't stick to rails because I have a fresh wax every time.

An iron can do the same damage to your board if you leave it over a spot too long, the same thing can happen with a heat gun. Although, the heat gun gets hotter faster and there needs to be extra attention to how fast you move it over the board.
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  Quote k-brew Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/12/2014 at 8:25am
There has been a few times where I have waxed my board with the heat treatment and it slowed the board way down. Sticks to the snow. Then other times it's fine and I used the same treatment. What could I be doing wrong?
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  Quote Angry Midget Yo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/12/2014 at 12:16pm
Maybe the times you're going slow, you didn't scrape the wax good enough.  
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  Quote JDiggidy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/12/2014 at 1:52pm
^ yep.

If you don't scrape enough wax off, it will just slow you down.

scrape from tip to tail, then scrape again.  and a third time won't hurt.  then be sure to buff it back up.

Also be sure you're using the right wax for the temps and snow conditions you'll be seeing.
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  Quote k-brew Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/15/2014 at 2:01pm
That's probably what happened of not scrapping enough of the wax off because I only scrapped it 1 time. There was a couple times on the colder days it would get worse but I am using the right temperature wax because that was my first thought. Thanks for the help
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Does anyone use a cork after brushing? What exactly does it do?
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  Quote JDiggidy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/18/2014 at 1:45pm
The cork is for pressing the wax in as far as you can while pressing in rub in wax.

After pressing the wax in off the brick o' wax, use the cork to help heat the wax up and drive it in.  then brush.

I have some One Ball Jay soy based stuff that just stays in my backpack, as the container the wax came in has a cork pad on the bottom of it.  super handy to press it in, cork it on, and ride.  I use it after a day or two without hot waxing.
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  Quote asdffdsa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/19/2014 at 5:36am
Originally posted by JDiggidy

The cork is for pressing the wax in as far as you can while pressing in rub in wax.

After pressing the wax in off the brick o' wax, use the cork to help heat the wax up and drive it in.  then brush.

I have some One Ball Jay soy based stuff that just stays in my backpack, as the container the wax came in has a cork pad on the bottom of it.  super handy to press it in, cork it on, and ride.  I use it after a day or two without hot waxing.

I see; so for hot waxing it's useless?
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  Quote JDiggidy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/19/2014 at 7:42am
^^ eeehhh.... not useless, just a step that's not needed.  the iron does the work of the cork (different process of course, but you get the point).

Keep your cork handy for those press in days for sure!

Also, it's apparent you know to put some structure back in there once waxed up and ready to roll.
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  Quote k-brew Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/21/2014 at 3:46pm
^^that makes a lot more sense thanks for the added tip because I just got too much wax layered on at first. I was trying to get more speed out of the board and it did the opposite to slow it down.
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I have been tuning and waxing boards and skis for years.  I would NEVER use the method shown in that video.  There are several reasons not to.  Ya, you can do it without damaging your board but you will never get a proper wax.  You will get a better wax doing a last minute rub on in the parking lot before riding.  You can see the guy who posted that even said himself that he has to do it every time before riding.  If you are waxing properly you absolutely should not need to wax every time. 
Of course it depends on many variables (time spent riding each day, snow condition, on or off trail, temps, etc.)  but a proper wax should last at least 5 solid days of riding hard.  
There is also a reason to use, what according to this guy, is excess wax.  After you melt the wax onto your board evenly you should not immediately scrape it.  Wait about an hour at room temp.  The wax continues to settle into the board and solidifies underneath that excess layer that you then scrape off.  

Anyways, those are just a few reasons not to do that method.   
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  Quote barnyard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/14/2015 at 5:07am
Worst video ever.  Do yourself a favor, buy a good wax, use a good iron and do it properly.  

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