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  Quote Peekaboo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Please Suggest a hiking trail for CA
    Posted: Jul/10/2012 at 5:18pm
Im going to be in CA around late August and planning on doing an overnight hike (2 days, 1 night) on one of the trails. Originally I wanted to do half dome and Mt. Whitney...but its almost impossible to get the permit. Anyone familiar with CA, please suggest a trail. Anywhere 6-10 hours from LA area is preferred. THanks!   
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  Quote Witty1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/10/2012 at 6:53pm
Do you only plan on doing a day trip hike??
If you have any sort of backpacking gear... you can do 1/2 dome without the permit.
the loophole to halfdome is if you are staying in the backcountry for a night, you don't need a permit. So you can get your backcountry permit from NPS. hike out the day before, camp out past the 5 mile boundary rule, then hike halfdome!

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  Quote Witty1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/10/2012 at 7:00pm
Mt. Whitney might be harder...
The way I got around the permit lottery was to call the Mt Whitney office (located in Bishop).
Ask them if they've had any parties bail/cancel on their hiking permit...
I was able to get a 1 day pass 5 days in advanced.
I definitely recommend getting a bit of altitude before doing whitney... you're starting out at 8k and doing nothing but going up from there.

What I did was drive to the base of White Mtn. (turnoff in the next town past Bishop (Big Pine))
camp at 11000ft a few miles from the ancient bristlecone pine forest (patriarch grove)
I hiked White Mtn. (14,246') (14 miles RT)
It's pretty much a fire road until you make the summit push... it's the easiest 14'er to do in California.

The next day I spent in Lone Pine to recuperate... and that night @ 1am I started hiking Whitney. I was by myself so I did not do the mountaineers trail, I did the 11 miles in/out, 22 miles RT... I was back at the Whitney Portal by 12:45pm... not too bad considering I stopped at the upper lakes for 40 mins to take pics, 40 mins @ the summit, and another 30 at the lakes again to hydrate...

legs were sore for a week after that little endeavor.
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  Quote shing02 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/10/2012 at 10:12pm
10 hours away? that's quite a bit...if anything, if halfdome is too much for you, yosemite valley or tuolumne meadows is definitely the place to be. go from mist trail--panorama--glacier point--5mile trail--and back to camp. i tried it and it had an INCREDIBLY nice view!
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  Quote Witty1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/10/2012 at 10:48pm
Another option is Saddlebag Lake (it's right next to Yosemite) You won't need to pay the $20 to enter the national park, The elevation is about 10,000-10,500' and there are a handful of alpine lakes up there. There is a loop trail (about 8-9 miles total round trip) You can take a ferry for $11 and save 2 miles each way... but it's not worth it in my opinion... it's an easy hike with no real elevation gain.
The access is very easy, the scenery is very beautiful and the fishing is spectacular! Lots of brookies, rainbows, and alpers if you're lucky....

Only drawback... mosquitos in the meadows, so... bring bug spray or get one of those full body insect nets.
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  Quote lightning80 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2012 at 10:07am
up to 10 hours away..you could be in new mexico!!!
 
the taho rim trail is huge around lake tahoe. yosemite has nice trails too as others have mentioned.
 
the grand canyon is within your 10hr limit but out of the state. you can hike down to the river at the bottom.
 
havining an idea of the difficulty and length of trails you're looking for will help.
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  Quote spenser Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2012 at 10:26am
wait wait wait.. there are permits to be outdoors?  what the hell is that shit?
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  Quote Angry Midget Yo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2012 at 10:33am
Hmm I know you need a permit to park your car and if you want to hunt stuff that's another permit.
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  Quote lightning80 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2012 at 10:37am
some places require permits so only a limited number of people can go on certain trails for environmental and safety purposes. the fee that you have to pay to get into national parks, state parks, county parks, etc. are essentially permits... so, yes, you have to pay to be outdoors because there are still costs for rangers and maintenance..if you don't like that, then go to outdoor places that are free...
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  Quote Cooperla Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2012 at 10:43am
^Yeah, and also because idiots get lost and have to be rescued.
 
Mt Whitney has a quota of permits, and you have to be kinda badass to do it in a day (props to Witty).  You don't need a permit for Half Dome (at least not when I've done it) as long as you do it in one day, which isn't too challenging.
 
I'd also recommend Shasta.  Up north of Redding, it's over 14,000.  You can do it over two days and camp halfway up.  I did it a couple of years back and it was awesome.  You need a permit, but they aren't limited (so it's really just a fee).
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  Quote Cooperla Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2012 at 10:51am
I don't have any from Shasta, but here's a couple of photos of the chains at the top on Halfdome and the view of the valley from the top.
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  Quote julius77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2012 at 10:59am
^^^Dear Lord that is a beautiful view. Peekaboo, you should go to Yosemite. What am I talking about- I should go to Yosemite. Cooperla- thanks for sharing your amazing pictures. I think it's time for a trip. I haven't been to Yosemite since I was 12. I don't think I was able to appreciate the beauty at that age.
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  Quote spenser Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2012 at 11:01am
i guess if i think of permits as a way to prevent every idiot out there who thinks they're an outdoorsman from going into the wild and killing themselves and ruining nature, it makes sense.  face value though, it sounds so absurd.  i guess it just reminds me how damn happy i am to have grown up here.
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  Quote julius77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2012 at 11:07am
Originally posted by spenser

i guess if i think of permits as a way to prevent every idiot out there who thinks they're an outdoorsman from going into the wild and killing themselves and ruining nature, it makes sense.  face value though, it sounds so absurd.  i guess it just reminds me how damn happy i am to have grown up here.
Gotta agree with Spencer. If you think about it, the average person is an idiot in many ways. That means half the population is dumber than that person. It makes permits sound like a good idea. BTW Spencer, I'm one of those idiots that would be out there thinking he's an outdoorsman Wink.
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  Quote Cooperla Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2012 at 11:26am
Yeah, people do some unbelieveable stuff - set off in flip flops with a can of red bull and a Luna bar, start forest fires, leave trash everywhere and expect a helicopter to come rescue them if they get in trouble.
 
I was wrong, they have started limiting the permits for climbing half dome.  According to the NPS site, there were up to 800 people a day on the trail.  Are there even that many people in Alaska Spenser?
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  Quote JoeRocket1212 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2012 at 11:28am
Originally posted by spenser

wait wait wait.. there are permits to be outdoors?  what the hell is that shit?

for popular hikes, yes...  to prevent wear on the trail and destroying the nature aspect of it.
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  Quote spenser Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2012 at 11:48am
i get it, i mean i'm surrounded by hundreds of trails right out my door for the most part.  but there are a lot less people here, and they more or less understand how to not ruin nature.

there are around 30k in juneau and 600k-something in the whole state.  much more sparse than california, so naturally the traffic through nature is far less, but the amount of nature is exponentially more, like california and many other places used to be, before there were millions of people everywhere.

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  Quote shwazy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2012 at 4:13pm
Originally posted by spenser

i guess if i think of permits as a way to prevent every idiot out there who thinks they're an outdoorsman from going into the wild and killing themselves and ruining nature, it makes sense.  face value though, it sounds so absurd.  i guess it just reminds me how damn happy i am to have grown up here.

think 37 million people not counting tourist...yikes!
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  Quote snowboardinrox357 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2012 at 4:17pm
You should visit Yosemite National Park and view the beautiful waterfalls, forest, and rivers. :]
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  Quote shing02 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2012 at 9:09pm
isn't shasta a little more than 10+hours away from socal?
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  Quote screwyvarmint Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/11/2012 at 11:26pm
I agree with everyone that Yosemite is great, BUT not in August when it's swimming with tourists who amble slowly up the trails.  Another nice area I'd recommend is Lassen Volcanic in the northern part of the state.  You could easily spend two days hiking around the park and not run out of sites to see, from lava tubes to bubbling sulfur pits to Lassen Peak itself.  The volcano is considered dormant I believe, so not too much risk of it going off while you're there.
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i want to go to zion....
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  Quote screwyvarmint Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/12/2012 at 11:20pm
I would also suggest the Tahoe Rim Trail, though the entire loop would probably take more than 2 days.  The good part is that whenever you decide to quit, you can come down and take the bus back to where you started.
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  Quote LeerroooyJenkins Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/13/2012 at 5:55am
Tahoe is a beautiful hike.  If you are in northern CA and you get off on history, you can hike along the California trail.  Donner pass, perhaps.

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  Quote red_baron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/13/2012 at 5:59am
I second what tons of people have said. If you have not gone to Yosemite...that is a definite must! It is effing mind blowing there!

If you are staying in the LA area some good day hikes are Bridge to nowhere/Mt Baldy/ and Santiago Peak.
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  Quote snowboardinrox357 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/13/2012 at 1:30pm
Also, you could visit some of the nice state beaches such as Santa Cruz beach or Southern CA beaches including Doheny, Pismo, San Clemente, and San Elijo. You could walk on the beaches for miles!
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  Quote NickinChicago Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/13/2012 at 3:19pm
That picture of Half Dome is crazy. There should not be that many people on that trail. I'm all for be able to do whatever you want but that amount of people on that small trail is stupid. Seems like an accident waiting to happen.
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  Quote screwyvarmint Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/14/2012 at 10:09am
Originally posted by NickinChicago

That picture of Half Dome is crazy. There should not be that many people on that trail. I'm all for be able to do whatever you want but that amount of people on that small trail is stupid. Seems like an accident waiting to happen.


Already has.  Last year a woman died there.  It started raining and she was only wearing sandals.  Despite the chains, she slipped and fell all the way down.
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  Quote Angry Midget Yo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/14/2012 at 10:27am
Who in their right mind would ever think of going hiking let alone hiking along a cliff in sandals.  LOL
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  Quote Witty1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/14/2012 at 10:30am
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Originally posted by NickinChicago

That picture of Half Dome is crazy. There should not be that many people on that trail. I'm all for be able to do whatever you want but that amount of people on that small trail is stupid. Seems like an accident waiting to happen.
Already has.  Last year a woman died there.  It started raining and she was only wearing sandals.  Despite the chains, she slipped and fell all the way down.


I feel bad for people who've died on there... I was actually in the park last year when the woman you mentioned fell... It was quite a downpour for a couple hours. I was climbing El Capitan base routes and had to bail...

But common sense tells me that a 20-30degree decline is not appropriate sandal terrain...
I've got sandals with climbing rubber on them and I wouldn't feel secure.
They shouldn't need to have a ranger at the base turning people away with inappropriate footwear... but it seems like every year there is a need for one.
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  Quote Angry Midget Yo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/14/2012 at 10:50am
Hiking while it's raining doesn't sound like hiking weather to me, just saying.
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  Quote spenser Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/14/2012 at 11:01am
nothin' wrong with hiking in bad weather unless you're an idiot
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  Quote snowboardinrox357 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/14/2012 at 11:27am
Some nice Southern CA trails: Sycamore Canyon Falls and Big Santa Anita Canyon.
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  Quote shing02 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/15/2012 at 2:55pm
Originally posted by Angry Midget Yo

Who in their right mind would ever think of going hiking let alone hiking along a cliff in sandals.  LOL

anyone who wants to (save a little cash and) prove they're tough as nails, you little pansy >:D

but yeah, people are crazy...i don't want to know what they feel when they're done with it all
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  Quote screwyvarmint Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/15/2012 at 10:43pm
I just remembered another long trail I like a lot at Point Reyes National Seashore.  This park north of San Francisco has lots of trails including one that runs the length of the park from Bolinas to Limantour Beach and then around the lagoon to the lighthouse.  There are camping spots along the way and it would take about 2 days to do all of it.  There are a couple of small lakes alongside the trail that are great for swimming in.  One might still even have a rope tied to a tree for swinging out into the water.  Warning: There is also a nude beach about halfway along. It's always the creepy/gross/horrifying peeps that are nekkid tho.  There are moderate climbs and descents, but overall it's not too strenuous a trail.
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Tahoe's Desolation Wilderness would be a good choice if you want to be far from any other humans. Mosquitoes are a big problem here though, but that's probably true in a lot of places.
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  Quote Peekaboo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/17/2012 at 8:42am
I appreciated the input guys. I really want to do half dome, but it doesnt look like its possible without permit. So im thinking of doing 2 diff trails at Yosemite then just camp at one of the camp site. Even with that, you still need permits to even camp overnight, except for Camp 4. Thinking of doing the upper Yosimite falls, camp overnight, then hike Panorama Trail.

Can I actually camp anywhere on a trail, do does it have to be in a desinated area?
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http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/wildpermits.htmAll your questions answered here
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  Quote NickinChicago Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/17/2012 at 1:51pm
Originally posted by spenser

nothin' wrong with hiking in bad weather unless you're an idiot

Completely agree with this. As long as you are safe and not stupid you can be out in bad weather. To be honest I prefer the rainy, wet muddy trail days over the blue sky days. I want to be dirty after the hike. 
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I don't have any from Shasta, but here's a couple of photos of the chains at the top on Halfdome and the view of the valley from the top.


What a beautiful sight!!!! I haven't been up here since i was a little girl. I think I'll have to take a trip out here soon. Thanks for the inspiration!
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  Quote bootleg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/26/2012 at 9:24pm
@Peekaboo if you want a open,intermediate hiking trail that has a little bit of everything i highly recommend doing the bridge to nowhere hike in Azusa,Ca ...it offers camping,hiking,swimming in pool pods, and gold mining off at the banks.The hike is anywhere from 4-8 hours long and 4.6 miles it depends on how fast and in good shape of health you are & the pace you're going otherwise at the end there is a bridge built in 1936 that stands at turn around where people pay to bungee jump if desired it is offered by the company Bungee America that accepts reservations. Parking is limited but free just need a california adventure pass to park on designated side road. It is located right off the 210 freeway just off from Duarte.check out the reviews on yelp, one place to try when your visiting cali
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  Quote screwyvarmint Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/29/2012 at 9:36am
This thread had me thinking about parts of California I've never really explored.  The North Coast like the Eureka-Humboldt area is one.  Anyone ever done any hiking in that area?  If so, what trails would you recommend?
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  Quote nautika96 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/29/2012 at 9:53am
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@Peekaboo if you want a open,intermediate hiking trail that has a little bit of everything i highly recommend doing the bridge to nowhere hike in Azusa,Ca ...it offers camping,hiking,swimming in pool pods, and gold mining off at the banks.The hike is anywhere from 4-8 hours long and 4.6 miles it depends on how fast and in good shape of health you are & the pace you're going otherwise at the end there is a bridge built in 1936 that stands at turn around where people pay to bungee jump if desired it is offered by the company Bungee America that accepts reservations. Parking is limited but free just need a california adventure pass to park on designated side road. It is located right off the 210 freeway just off from Duarte.check out the reviews on yelp, one place to try when your visiting cali


"having a california adventure" = $5/day or $35 for the year. Therefore parking isnt free.

Check to see if Yosemite has free park admission. They sometimes do this on special occasions. I was able to get in free last time I went.

Since Halfdome maybe out of the question due to permits, you should still probably hike up to see the water walls. Its really short and rather rewarding.

Also in Yosemite is the Ansel Adams photography walking tour. If you like taking photos, I'd make some time for this little tour. It's free too.


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  Quote JoeRocket1212 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/31/2012 at 9:37am
if you get the year pass for california adventure, you can get a second pass for only 5 bucks.  that's 20 bucks a pass.  but they have to be used together.  you can't use the second pass if the first pass isn't also parked nearby.  not sure how they check this, but that's the official rules.

yosemite has free admission if you go in late at night.

i think half dome is worth the hike.  even if you don't get to go on top of the dome, the hike there is still great.
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  Quote whitetiger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/31/2012 at 4:03pm
^Here's the link for the free dates. Warning, already crowded Yosemite might be unbearable these dates.

http://www.nps.gov/findapark/feefreeparks.htm
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