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    Posted: Dec/20/2006 at 8:48pm

what's a good wax to get?

 
that sounds so awkward Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/20/2006 at 9:30pm
depends on your price point and for what use. water repulsion is the name of the game. racing wax has the addition of fluorocarbons (carbon and fluorine molecule that's extremely polar and not very reactive). Fluorocarbons are hydrophobic and have a low coefficient of friction. Goretex and Teflon are both fluoropolymers. Being as such, the price of high fluoro wax is expensive - you can find bricks of swix and toko for over $50.

personally, I'm not a pro racer and I'm a college student so I don't have that kind of money for wax. I use nobiwax (www.nobiwax.com). I bought a bunch of their low and hi temperature broken wax (not fit for retail sale so they liquidate it through their website) and then remelted them together in a double boiler on my stove (read: muffin tin suspended in boiling water). If you try melting wax over a stove make sure it's in a double boiler, wax will spontaneously catch on fire if the temperature is too high, 390 degrees is a very low flash point). This netted me 3 large bricks of wax for not more than $15. I only went through one brick last season.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/21/2006 at 3:45am
i still have tons of leftover swix wax from my ski racing days so i go with that.

but bluebird and one ball jay cannot be beat.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/21/2006 at 6:16am
cool thanks for the suggestions!
 
and yeah I'm sorta on the cheap side, but I'm willing to pay a bit extra if it's a good product
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/21/2006 at 7:08am
Originally posted by JeffSoSavvy

cool thanks for the suggestions!
 
and yeah I'm sorta on the cheap side, but I'm willing to pay a bit extra if it's a good product


i bought a bunch of One Ball Jay on Ebay last Spring for cheap. different temps too. that's all i have ever used, but i would try Bluebird cause i like that guy.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/21/2006 at 7:44am
bluebird Thumbs%20Up the only one i use.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/21/2006 at 7:45am
Originally posted by evernod

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cool thanks for the suggestions!
 
and yeah I'm sorta on the cheap side, but I'm willing to pay a bit extra if it's a good product


i bought a bunch of One Ball Jay on Ebay last Spring for cheap. different temps too. that's all i have ever used, but i would try Bluebird cause i like that guy.


 
cool, I go to the local shop after work and check out if they have either one, if not I can always ebay it. No real need for it now so I can wait for it to be shipped to me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/21/2006 at 7:52am
all the low-grade $10 wax seems the same to me...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/21/2006 at 9:33am
Originally posted by Nu-Nu

all the low-grade $10 wax seems the same to me...
 
I kind thought that, being that you probably pay for the name.
 
being that I am only going to use it for general use I guess I shouldn't go for broke and get a good priced wax then
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/21/2006 at 11:16am
just scrape the bluebird when it's still warm. it's hard when it's cold.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/21/2006 at 11:27am
Originally posted by hoon

just scrape the bluebird when it's still warm. it's hard when it's cold.
okay cool, thanks you the tip!
 
I have now a good shoping list to go through before my trip this sat Big%20smile
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Is it worth buying a real board iron as opposed to just a regular run of the mill household iron?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/21/2006 at 10:08pm
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Is it worth buying a real board iron as opposed to just a regular run of the mill household iron?


no - just grab a used iron from your neighborhood salvation army or goodwill, for $8. the only possible danger is with a wax fire if the iron gets too hot. don't let the wax smoke, turn the iron down if it starts.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/22/2006 at 5:29am
Originally posted by taiguy

Originally posted by kimchijajonshim

Is it worth buying a real board iron as opposed to just a regular run of the mill household iron?


no - just grab a used iron from your neighborhood salvation army or goodwill, for $8. the only possible danger is with a wax fire if the iron gets too hot. don't let the wax smoke, turn the iron down if it starts.
 
okay I sorta new and dumb to this... but why do you need an iron? Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/22/2006 at 5:41am
For a good old hotwax.
 
In order for your board's base to reach its true potential in speed and durability, you have to feed it wax.  Not just rub-on paste, but a real, lovin, hotwax.  When you heat up the wax on the base of the board with an iron, it will open up the pores in the material, which allows for the wax to be absorbed.  The process isn't very hard, but is an absolute necessity if you want your board to last longer than a few days.  It keeps your base from drying out and cracking, and helps you keep your speed on the snow. 
 
 
this post has some links at the end which may help you.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/22/2006 at 6:19am
Originally posted by dcboardman

For a good old hotwax.
 
In order for your board's base to reach its true potential in speed and durability, you have to feed it wax.  Not just rub-on paste, but a real, lovin, hotwax.  When you heat up the wax on the base of the board with an iron, it will open up the pores in the material, which allows for the wax to be absorbed.  The process isn't very hard, but is an absolute necessity if you want your board to last longer than a few days.  It keeps your base from drying out and cracking, and helps you keep your speed on the snow. 
 
 
this post has some links at the end which may help you.
 
oh I see, thanks!!! that helps a lot, I learned another then new on here!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/22/2006 at 6:30am
Originally posted by kimchijajonshim

Is it worth buying a real board iron as opposed to just a regular run of the mill household iron?


salvation army is good. or a used travel iron. the small size makes it great to manipulate.

or wait until your mom upgrades her iron.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/22/2006 at 7:12am
Originally posted by hoon

Originally posted by kimchijajonshim

Is it worth buying a real board iron as opposed to just a regular run of the mill household iron?


salvation army is good. or a used travel iron. the small size makes it great to manipulate.

or wait until your mom upgrades her iron.
 
if you use a regular household iron, what setting should it be on?
 
The one I have at home works both as a regular iron, but also has a steam setting which doesn't burn so hot but uses water in a way
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/22/2006 at 8:25am
no steam. low to medium heat. probably around 150 degrees or so.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/22/2006 at 8:34am
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no steam. low to medium heat. probably around 150 degrees or so.
 
cool, thanks for the help hoon and everyone else!!!
 
now... it's time to deal with the riding part!
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Toko Wax Baby!

Da Kine sucks! once you ride a Toko Hot Wax its freggin smooth & fast
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/25/2006 at 10:33am
we used the Bakoda all temp wax for the better part of the season last year. it was pretty good, kept speed really nice, and smelled pretty good. Big%20smile

and yeah, the Dakine wax bites. i still have like 1 1/2 bars left and i'm just using that up just so i can get rid of it.
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