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  Quote calund00 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: New bindings
    Posted: Nov/21/2012 at 7:53am
Looking to get some new bindings.  Looking at getting Flux tt30, Flux sf45, Burton cartels or now ipo.  I want something that can handle anything, I ride mostly park (75% jumps, 25%rails) and backcountry pow when out west.  Would like to get two bindings for each situation, but already spent money on two boards this year.  I am leaning towards the sf 45.  What do you think?  
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  Quote bubbagooch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/21/2012 at 1:33pm
I haven't tried the sf45s but I have tried my brother's tt30s and they're pretty nice.  I hear the sf45s are supposed to be pretty stiff so I don't know how well that would work with park riding (unless you like stiff bindings).  The tt30s are right around the middle of the road as far as flex goes and they're really comfortable.  The only thing is that the toe ramp is really pronounced and is weird at first so it took a few runs for me to get used to.  I'm still not stoked on the toe ramp but I can deal with it.  I like the flex of them a lot.  I have a friend who rode Cartels for everything until he got his RK30s and he really likes them.  He was happy with the Cartels until he experienced the RK30s, but I think a lot of that is preference.  As far as the Now IPOs go I haven't had any experience with them nor do I know anyone who has, but from what I've read they are supposed to be great for everything.  I hear they aren't as comfy as some of the other bindings out there.  

In summation, I would say you probably can't go wrong with the TT30s or the Cartels.  Both should handle anything you throw at them.  Until I or someone I know tries the Now IPOs the verdict is still out on them.  
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  Quote rye Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/21/2012 at 2:33pm
well my thought is for you (calund00) to go try the ipo and let us know after. you COULD be like everyone else and cartel, but if your dishing out the money, might as well try something is that is revolutionary apparently 
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  Quote Lux Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/21/2012 at 2:42pm
I have both the Flux TT30 and Flux SF45! But I sold the TT30 last month to make room for a secret replacement! :o I've always ridden all types of bindings: Ride, Flow, Union, Burton, you name it. Then I switched over to 100% Flux everything last season after trying a few and was utterly blown away-- they really have their shit together with bindings; seriously Flux don't fux around...

The TT30 is definitely ride everything. It's smack-dab right in the middle of any binding map: medium baseplate stiffness, medium highback stiffness, medium range of motion. If it's something you're into, I recommend the 2013 model. They added a footbed for the first time and changed to asymmetrical-flexing highback. The highback is now a modified version of last year's SF45 highback, now with a softer 30% fibre glass blend and upgraded padding. For the money, the 2013 model is the call over 2012.

Now, the Flux SF45 is a real beast and my personal favourite. By comparison, it's stiffer everywhere and has a slightly larger ankle strap than other models, with reduced range of motion. For 2013, it got a new asymmetrically-shaped highback that is now wider at the crown and a new ankle strap that is taller and thicker at the end lips. The strap is taller this year to provide more hold with less pressure. The stabilisers are now removable. The upgrades for the 2013 model are, in reality, pretty insignificant to the binding overall, mostly because of the type of riding the SF45 is made for. Personally, I prefer the 2012 model because it is stiffer in the highback: last year's absolutely massive lean adjuster assembly added to highback rigidity in all directions. By comparison, the 2013 highback is lighter and more forgiving torsionally, but retains most of the stiffness longitudinally.

Burton Cartel is basically competing with the TT30 as an all-mountain binding, but with a more comfortable (less-fatiguing) and stiffer highback and nicer footbeds, whereas you can't beat Flux ankle straps. Nobody here's really ever used Now IPO so we can't say much of them.

Since you're mostly jumping, I suggest you get the SF45: it's more reactive to your board inputs. Eric Willett uses the SF45 exclusively for all of his practice and competitions for the last three years.
Originally posted by bubbagooch

I have a friend who rode Cartels for everything until he got his RK30s and he really likes them.  He was happy with the Cartels until he experienced the RK30s, but I think a lot of that is preference. 
Flux RK30 is possibly the softest, most flexible binding on the market, almost borderline ridiculous... They're an absolute godsend for street and jib riders, though. I'm surprised your friend even liked the Burton Cartel at all if he was so in love with the RK30.
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  Quote bubbagooch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/22/2012 at 8:09pm
Originally posted by Lux


Originally posted by bubbagooch

I have a friend who rode Cartels for everything until he got his RK30s and he really likes them.  He was happy with the Cartels until he experienced the RK30s, but I think a lot of that is preference. 
Flux RK30 is possibly the softest, most flexible binding on the market, almost borderline ridiculous... They're an absolute godsend for street and jib riders, though. I'm surprised your friend even liked the Burton Cartel at all if he was so in love with the RK30.

I think it was because he had never ridden a binding that soft before, but once he did he realized where his preferences lie.  I seriously doubt he'll ever get any other binding.
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  Quote nots0kind Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/22/2012 at 9:00pm
lookin to buy a used pair ?
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  Quote sixpoint Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/23/2012 at 2:52am
I have a pr of 2011 Black Missions size Med EST new in box if interested
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  Quote jhoang6 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/23/2012 at 12:04pm
Another line of binders to take into consideration,
Are Fluxes a Japanese brand?

Calund00 have you taken a look into Union bindings? They're design hasn't seen much great leaps since their Forces became their staple.
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  Quote bubbagooch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/23/2012 at 9:13pm
Originally posted by jhoang6

Calund00 have you taken a look into Union bindings? They're design hasn't seen much great leaps since their Forces became their staple.

A thing to consider about Union bindings is that they aren't that comfortable.  I own two pairs, older ones, and my feet don't like them.  I hear that they have improved their straps and now they are all pretty nice, but I can't speak on that.  My Forces handle it all, but they are like an iron maiden on my feet.  If you do decide Union get new ones so that your feet will be happy.  The Atlas is their new staple binding.  If it's anything like the Force then it will be a good all around binding.  
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  Quote spenser Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/23/2012 at 9:28pm
just wanted to interject a couple things here

comfort is all relative, and there are no facts about it.  it's on a person-to-person basis, so to say "union bindings aren't that comfortable" really just means "they weren't the most comfortable for me personally."  some people find them super comfortable, and others don't, just like every other brand.

on flux, yes they are japanese and one of the oldest binding companies on the market.  the founder was the son of a guy who ran a car factory or something, and his son was given use of the factory to start tinkering around with bindings.
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  Quote Jigkidd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/23/2012 at 10:46pm
definitely agree with Spenser about what's comfortable for others is not comfortable for some.
Everyone has different preferences with everything, whether it be boots, bindings or boards.

My suggestion to you Calund00, is to try and remember what you liked about your previous bindings riding-wise and what you didn't like and perhaps compare to what you are looking at

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I really liked how responsive, my cartels were, but the high back is so tall that it felt like it bit into my calf, and i wouldn't mind the highbacks being softened up either.

it really just depends how you like your bindings.

suggestion: if you like to tweak grabs on jumps a lot some riders like soft highbacks for more range of movement


 


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  Quote scuddera Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/24/2012 at 4:20am
cartels in my opinion are super soft so miss hitting those landings in the park are a little easier to get out of. Personally I like bindings that are a little more responsive then those. Whatever floats your boat though. PM me if you want to buy some I got the 09 L and dont use them. I was thinking 80 shipped
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  Quote calund00 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/24/2012 at 7:01am
I went to the store yesterday and decided on the TT30.  Going to try them out tomorrow!  
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  Quote jhoang6 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/10/2012 at 3:51pm
Originally posted by calund00

I went to the store yesterday and decided on the TT30.  Going to try them out tomorrow!  
Nice did you end up picking them up? how much did you get em for
get to ride it yet, what's your feedback?
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