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    Posted: Dec/14/2012 at 8:26am
Another shooting this one with kids. What are peoples thoughts on this? Apparently Gov. Hickenlooper of CO wants to bring up the issue of gun control. These kind of things seem to be happening more frequently. Im interested to hear opinions.
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I think it's because of doomsday, people are thinking they are gonna die anyways so might as well go out with a big bang.  Confused
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I get how someone could be pissed enough at someone to want to kill them, but KIDS?  How can you possibly need to do something like this to a bunch of school kids?  It's despicable, I'm glad the guy bit it.  Taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for this guy for the next 80 years.


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  Quote letourneau41 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/14/2012 at 8:52am
What a sick bastard.  I hope he enjoys rotting in hell.  Why would you target elementary kids?
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  Quote Angry Midget Yo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/14/2012 at 8:55am
Updated news, 24 are dead and mostly children.  
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27 dead 18 kids. sexual act scary how something like this can happen so close to home
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I blame the internet.

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  Quote diviesti Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/14/2012 at 9:04am
I hate hearing about shit like this, I wish the person responsible didn't kill himself so the parents of the kids could torture his ass in the backwoods somewhere. My heart goes out to the families affected by this. 

Gun control won't keep weapons out of those who seek them, that isn't the answer.
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  Quote lightning80 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/14/2012 at 9:20am
looks like it's 2 gunmen..1 was killed..the other got away.
 
gun control can work, if anyone found with a gun is shot on the spot.
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  Quote Blur510 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/14/2012 at 9:38am
Originally posted by bdanross

Another shooting this one with kids. What are peoples thoughts on this? Apparently Gov. Hickenlooper of CO wants to bring up the issue of gun control. These kind of things seem to be happening more frequently. Im interested to hear opinions.

Gun control is not the answer. 
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  Quote bweston Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/14/2012 at 9:43am
I think if bullets were made more expensive it would be better than removing guns. Chris Rock says it perfect. "If bullets cost a $1000 you wouldn't see any drive by shootings." If we take away guns you will see people in crowds stabbing the crap out of people, or using guns that are smuggled in. At the end of the day, these people are sick in the mind and if they want to hurt themselves or others they will find a way to do it.
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Baffling, Hope they catch the 2nd SOB
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  Quote rzero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/14/2012 at 9:53am
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Baffling, Hope they catch the 2nd SOB

It was a reported person that left the school shortly after the shooting started. They are in custody for questioning. Could have been a parent dropping her kids book off or something.
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i hate hearing about things like this, makes me so sad, i dont think gun control is the answer, perhaps if the media didn't give so much attention to the last mall shooting this wouldnt have happened?
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They're saying it's 1 person.  They found his dad's body at his house also.  Then apparently he went to the school and killed his mother who worked there. 

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I hate hearing about this kind of stuff.
IT MAKES ME SICK!!!
Why target an elementary school
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  Quote timpiper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/14/2012 at 10:26am
This is disgusting to hear. Gun control will not curb psychotic behavior
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  Quote julius77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/14/2012 at 10:40am
I don't know if gun and/or media control will stop sick bastards from doing sick bastard things. My prayers will be for those affected and for the children and adults who lost their lives too early this morning.
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  Quote Oinker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/14/2012 at 10:47am
It's a horrble tragedy when this happens to any one.... but why, why children? What is wrong with this world?
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  Quote bootleg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/14/2012 at 11:53am
Just read this in the paper, sick of hearing these sad stories about some idiot shooting innocent bystanders and for what.Don't think gun control will solved this problem,there are too many frequent shootings lately across the country.
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  Quote Huckster92 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/14/2012 at 12:13pm
So sad to hear about all the children and staff at the school.... thoughts and prayers go out to the families!
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  Quote sideways99 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/14/2012 at 12:15pm
Terrible tragedy. Anyone who kills innocent people deserves to rot in hell but someone who kills innocent children is the lowest form of crap on earth. Pathetic. My heart goes out to the families affected by this tragedy.
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  Quote lightning80 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/14/2012 at 12:45pm
i can see that, if the killer was abused by the parents and he went nuts and wanted to kill his parents..but, why does he have to go an shoot all the little kindergarten kids that don't have anything to do with him? Cry
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  Quote sixpoint Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/14/2012 at 1:37pm
If you are capable of killing people randomly, that you do not know you are a sick desensitized human being. I wish he would have shot himself first.  Gun control isn't the answer, people are the answer. Thugs are going to get firearms and use them in appropriately.
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do you mean like gun control as in no guns or just regulation? I for one believe that the average person shouldnt own grenades or rpg's. I understand that isnt guns but that would be weapon control. there havent been people killed in the US by RPG's who's saying that with unlimited access to that people wouldnt have used them. i guess people being the answer isnt really working right now. according to that article the 6 large mass shootings have happened in the past 5 years...  Also i actually like guns. I think they are fun and people should own them but its just interesting where the line should be drawn. Most people dont want it changed at all. 
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  Quote fj5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/14/2012 at 1:54pm
Originally posted by sixpoint

If you are capable of killing people randomly, that you do not know you are a sick desensitized human being. I wish he would have shot himself first.  Gun control isn't the answer, people are the answer. Thugs are going to get firearms and use them in appropriately.

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Originally posted by diviesti

I wish the person responsible didn't kill himself so the parents of the kids could torture his ass in the backwoods somewhere.


Yes.

Originally posted by diviesti

Gun control won't keep weapons out of those who seek them, that isn't the answer.


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I dont think gun control will have an impact anytime soon, but it could 50 years down the road when people dont see it as an option. Just my 2 cents. It's a horrible thing that happened and it is super sad to see so many innocent people and sweet kids get killed.
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  Quote shwazy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/14/2012 at 3:54pm
Originally posted by bdanross

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/12/14/nine-facts-about-guns-and-mass-shootings-in-the-united-states/

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  Quote twolf123 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/14/2012 at 5:20pm
coincidentally today in china, a man SLASHED 22 children.

yeah, gun control isn't the answer...and i seriously hope people start asking the question of "mental health".
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  Quote motoxninja80 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/14/2012 at 5:52pm
This tragedy is awful. I hope that this shooting will force people to take more action to prevent these kinds of incidents.
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  Quote jacquet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/14/2012 at 6:48pm
Take these drugs and you will be fine. Ban these guns and the mass killings will stop. Put these groups of people in these housing projects and things will get better. When will people understand that issues like mental illness, violence, and poverty are extremely complex realities that can't be solved with a quick fix.
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  Quote Lux Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/14/2012 at 7:29pm
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Take these drugs and you will be fine. Ban these guns and the mass killings will stop. Put these groups of people in these housing projects and things will get better. When will people understand that issues like mental illness, violence, and poverty are extremely complex realities that can't be solved with a quick fix.
I agree with this, wholly. The crux of the matter isn't that you need stability by method of enforcing more control through more laws. Rather, it's that you need to improve the morale of your citizens. And, while USA is, allegedly, a highly developed and prosperous nation, serious, highly complex social problems exist. And these persistent issues are certainly not recent developments in America...
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Hearing about shootings that involve children just makes me sick. Anyone who hides behind a gun then take their own life is a female genitals imo.
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[QUOTE=Lux]
Originally posted by jacquet

Take these drugs and you will be fine. Ban these guns and the mass killings will stop. Put these groups of people in these housing projects and things will get better. When will people understand that issues like mental illness, violence, and poverty are extremely complex realities that can't be solved with a quick fix.
I agree with this, wholly. The crux of the matter isn't that you need stability by method of enforcing more control through more laws. Rather, it's that you need to improve the morale of your citizens. And, while USA is, allegedly, a highly developed and prosperous nation, serious, highly complex social problems exist. And these persistent issues are certainly not recent developments in America...[QUOTE]\

^This is a very good take. I also heard an opinion that i was intrigued by. What if all these mass shootings had occurred as a terrorist attacks. Like taliban attack theather, school, shoots congresswoman. How pissed off would people in america be and how quickly would we seek justice as a people. instead of oh that's a crazy a hole nothing you can really do to fix that.  I agree mental health is an issue for sure but take away that guys gun and maybe you just have 22 kids with knife wounds instead of dead children. 
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Makes me sick to the bone that some one so twisted in the USA can do this kind of stuff to little kids. My heart goes out the victim's family.
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They're saying it's 1 person.  They found his dad's body at his house also.  Then apparently he went to the school and killed his mother who worked there. 


If that's the case then he has really bad aim if his target was only one person.  I wonder what kind of family issue they were having at home or if any.
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  Quote 360faceplant Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/15/2012 at 9:35am
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Originally posted by 360faceplant

They're saying it's 1 person.  They found his dad's body at his house also.  Then apparently he went to the school and killed his mother who worked there. 


If that's the case then he has really bad aim if his target was only one person.  I wonder what kind of family issue they were having at home or if any.
 
It was one person as in 1 shooter.  Jesus, how effin stupid are you sometimes???
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  Quote bweston Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/15/2012 at 9:45am
If you do a google search you will find a person that committed a mass stabbing in China on the same day. Luckily no one was killed but this person attacked children as well. What kind of world do we live in?
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  Quote bdanross Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/16/2012 at 10:36am
Dr Park Dietz a Forensic Psychiatrist discusses what is wrong with TV networks when they cover tragic strories and mass killings.
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I feel sorry for the victims of the Connecticut shooting. They were so young. People should'nt be allowed to carry guns around like this.
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  Quote Lushes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/16/2012 at 1:29pm
So sad. I don't think this has to do with gun control
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It is really sad how the media make these guys out to be so big.  They plaster their names all over the places and no one knows the names of the victims, only the perps.  These guys know they will not be forgotten (although certainly vilified).  Maybe they get a sick satisfaction in that, and pushes them towards this stuff.  Confused
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Gun Control is not the answer... The solution lies in either arming the teachers, or placing police within the school. My middle school and high school had school resource officers inside the school who were actual cops that worked for our town. There would be at least one of them in the building at all times, ussually in the front of the building like the main office area, or in the classrooms teaching dare. Sounds smart to me to start placing cops in the schools like mine did... just makes sense to me.
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Having psychological tests performed on people buying guns is never a bad option...if you can't understand why, I don't know what to tell you.
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  Quote Oinker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/17/2012 at 4:36am

This goes far beyond gun control. The 'issue' runs much deeper that causes people to turn to such violence. It's not as simple as change some gun laws and this type of violence will stop. I don't know what the answer is but it's something that runs much deeper in the american culture. This is not only about guns.

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  Quote snowj720 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/17/2012 at 4:50am
Originally posted by AJD13

Gun Control is not the answer... The solution lies in either arming the teachers, or placing police within the school. My middle school and high school had school resource officers inside the school who were actual cops that worked for our town. There would be at least one of them in the building at all times, ussually in the front of the building like the main office area, or in the classrooms teaching dare. Sounds smart to me to start placing cops in the schools like mine did... just makes sense to me.
It sad that it comes down to that, but it does make sense to have trained law enforcement in the schools.  This world has just gone mad.  Tragedies on a daily basis anymore. 
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  Quote richardvoyageur Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec/17/2012 at 5:07am
As a Canadian I won't pretend to know the gun mentality of the US, but it does exist from what I see.  People are so reluctant to give up their guns even though it can only make sense to do so.  Do you really need 270 million guns kicking around in a country of 300 million people?

Is it not the ultimate irony that the perp's mother's guns were used to kill her?  Perhaps if she wasn't a gun collector, this guy would have had more trouble getting a hold of weapons and thus had a reduced body count.  

Obviously you'll never get rid of deranged individuals with the will to do evil things, but I think the setup in the US helps them achieve maximum casualties.
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