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    Posted: Jan/08/2013 at 9:24am
Hi,

I bought some 32 Lashed boots last year and at first (~10 uses) they were too tight and causing discomfort in my foot and ankle from my toes mashing against the front.  They eventually packed in and worked well for a while.  Now I find that I slip around a lot and no amount of retightening/tying seems to fix the problem for more than about 1 run.

Is there any solution that might help me here?  From looking around on my own it seems that I might be able to remold them with heat molding.  Unfortunately, my local mountain is tiny and there probably aren't any shops that could do it, so I might have to DIY if that could even fix my problem.  What about insoles or inserts like SHL products http://www.stopheellift.com/SHL.html?

Has anyone tried any of these or had similar problems that they were able to solve without getting new boots and going through the process again?

Thanks in advance!
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heat molding doesn't add material where you need it, which is what you need if they aren't holding your feet well enough.  all it does is allow the liner to mold to your foot shape quicker than wearing them in yourself, so all that's happening is tight spots getting pushed out, but not loose spots getting filled in.

it depends how exactly your feet are not secure.  just heel lift?  all-around slop?  there are some potential fixes for heel lift, like adding J-bars (more padding basically) or heel wedges, which take up the lift-space and leave your heel sitting at the height at which the boot holds it down better.

that said, it's entirely possible and likely that they simply just don't fit your feet properly and the best solution is new boots.  can you tell us anything about your feet so we can try to suggest certain brands that may cater to you specifically?  foot width, arch height, skinny/fat ankle, skinny/fat calf, etc...
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  Quote Angry Midget Yo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/08/2013 at 9:50am
If it is way too loose then you're better off getting a new boot because even if you pack your boot with ankle padding, heel wedges, and tongue, etc you're totally changing the feel and function of the boot.  
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  Quote markyjas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/08/2013 at 9:57am
Hi guys thanks for the speedy responses.

Spenser - I have pretty skinny feet and at first I just thought it was my laces/pullstraps were loosening up during runs, but now I'm finding that they might just have packed in to the point where the liners are too big for my feet.  In fact the liner pullstraps are usually pulled about as tight as they go and are still almost that tight when I go to retighten them.

I get what feels like my feet can lift on the sides (twisting) as well as my heel lifting.  I'm sure its only a couple centimeters of motion, but it can be really annoying.

Angry - I know what you are saying, but I'm afraid that if I get new boots I could run into the same problem again.  Too tight at first, fine for a little and then too loose.  So maybe the customization is what I need.
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  Quote djmaya Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/08/2013 at 10:29am
Even though I am 200 pounds i have really skinny ankles. I just added some padding in the tongue area of my boots and a small heel support underneath my foot and it made a world of difference.
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  Quote markyjas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/08/2013 at 11:36am
Originally posted by djmaya

Even though I am 200 pounds i have really skinny ankles. I just added some padding in the tongue area of my boots and a small heel support underneath my foot and it made a world of difference.


Did you buy from tognar or shl or just do a custom job?  Next time I go out, I'm really going to try to figure out where I have too much wiggle in my boots and see if I can get something to fix it.  I'll report back on here.
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  Quote hana24 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/08/2013 at 11:42am
Originally posted by markyjas

Originally posted by djmaya

Even though I am 200 pounds i have really skinny ankles. I just added some padding in the tongue area of my boots and a small heel support underneath my foot and it made a world of difference.


Did you buy from tognar or shl or just do a custom job?  Next time I go out, I'm really going to try to figure out where I have too much wiggle in my boots and see if I can get something to fix it.  I'll report back on here.


I just buy foam with a sticky backing from the arts and crafts store.  $1 for a sheet of foam and I cut it up and place it in areas where I feel there's wiggle room. 
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  Quote 2zz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/08/2013 at 7:12pm
At this point, heat molding is not going to help.
Sounds like you need new boots.
If not, try j-bars for sure. If your feet still slips more than you like, try insoles too. Superfeet insoles are pretty slim, you can also try other athletic insoles from your local sports shop.
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what kind of socks you rocking with? if just a thin one, try a medium weight or something that have more padding on it. it should help a bit. also, change out your insole should help a bit as well.
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  Quote LaNieve Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/09/2013 at 2:03am
I guess you could try real thick socks or just wear one more pair?
Otherwise Ive read something about people getting non-slip socks (like the ones that have some kind of thin form or silicon-y material painted onto the bottom of the socks to prevent their feet slipping about in their boots so you could try that
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  Quote 2zz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/15/2013 at 2:01pm
Wearing a thick sock is ok, but two socks might slip between the socks themselves. Plus since there's so much socks between feet and footbed, it might lack response. It might also causes the rider to want to tighten the boots more...not ideal.
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  Quote AJD13 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/19/2013 at 5:33pm
like previously said id go with a thick sock with the textured bottom so your foot doesnt move around in the boot.
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