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    Posted: Jan/22/2013 at 11:27am
Hey Y'all!  I just wanted to share with you my instructional videos for first time snowboarders.  Hope you guys find them helpful!


Snowboarding 101 - How To "S" On Your First Day

Target Audience: First Time / Beginner Snowboarders


Part 1: Getting Familiar With Your Snowboard


Part 2: "J"-Turns & Getting Off The Ski Lift


Part 3: Braking & Leafing Heelside


Part 4: Braking & Leafing Toeside


Part 5: "C"-Turns & Linking To "S"-Turns


UPDATE: A lot of people on their first day lack the confidence, balance, and overall feel for the snow and slope to be able to execute smooth turns. It's even more difficult with bumpy uneven terrain and sometimes conditions just aren't ideal. Add that to having a bunch of other skiers and riders around you (many being beginners trying to do the same thing) makes for a pretty scary and intimidating environment. I found that teaching this method (skidded/rudder turns) builds confidence and comfort sooner. I would rather people be able to use both edges in succession earlier and then fine tune their technique afterwards than to try to get everything smooth the first time around and fall and get discouraged. 

Speed tends to scare beginners the most and being able to kick out the back foot makes for quick braking and, overall, a more dynamic and agile sense of composure. It's also easy to transition to more proper and smooth turning techniques once confidence has been built.


NOTE:  My goal with these videos is not to get first time riders to "carve" on their first day, but to build their confidence with utilizing both edges in succession to get down the hill (break them away from relying on leafing down the hill). The focus is to NOT fall.  Developing back foot maneuverability also allows for quicker reactions to avoid obstacles and collisions.  A proper carve is definitely going to take much longer to learn than one day, especially because it does require more speed and advanced control.
 
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  Quote Lux Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/22/2013 at 11:38am
Nice videos man! I better forward this to some of my friends, great tips in the tutorial. A note to all viewers: winds that day were really, really strong.
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  Quote bdanross Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/22/2013 at 11:51am
way to be a creator. i like them. i will use some of the terminology when im teaching other people. my girlfriends sister is wanting to learn so im going be having some boring days coming up here soon but i think some of these will help her learn faster. 
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  Quote koji3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/22/2013 at 11:58am
Nice videos man. One of the more simpler ones to understand, i'll be sure to make my friend watch this before our NZ trip.

Just with the wind noise with the camera. You using the gopro with the non water proof backing? 
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  Quote fj5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/22/2013 at 12:09pm
^ Yeah, the mic picks up my voice a lot better with the open backing rather than the water proof backing.
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  Quote lightning80 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/22/2013 at 12:29pm
fj5: is there a way to download the videos to bun on DVDs so i can play them in the car?
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  Quote fj5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/22/2013 at 7:38pm
^ You can use any Youtube Flash Downloader software available online to download them, they can convert the files too.  

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  Quote chillwill Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/22/2013 at 9:20pm
Great videos fj5.  Good job breaking everything down into specific details.  
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  Quote fj5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/22/2013 at 10:28pm
^ Thanks man!  Hope beginners find them helpful!  I wish someone told me all this when I first started. LOL
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  Quote spenser Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/22/2013 at 11:00pm
a lot of that seemed like good info for beginners.. however, truly no disrespect and props for putting together the videos man, but the way you explain how turning works is completely backwards.  you do carve starting with the front, and using your back leg as a "rudder" is exactly what you don't do - that's not turning, that's washing back and forth from edge to edge in skidded turns, scrubbing speed as you go.  a carve runs along the whole length of the edge from nose to tail, and at no point should you be sliding sideways on your edge, but rather running down the length of the sidecut, which is what carries you through the arc of each turn.  turns are initiated/started at the front contact point even though it doesn't necessarily feel like you're "steering" with the front.

I suppose it's somehow possible I totally missed something or misinterpreted, but I watched that part a few times to make sure I heard correctly and understood.  you can also see in the clip toward the end that your turns are skidded, because of the way you're moving your back leg like a rudder and sliding, instead of transitioning between edges as you ride the sidecut through each carve.  I'd just be concerned this is going to start people off on the wrong foot with learning and understanding how to carve properly, I guess.  and again, I really mean no disrespect at all, I just wanted to note that as it's pretty important.
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  Quote koji3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/22/2013 at 11:24pm
Originally posted by fj5

^ Yeah, the mic picks up my voice a lot better with the open backing rather than the water proof backing.
You can actually use a bit of sponge to cover over the mic and that cuts out a lot of the wind noise you get. 
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  Quote fj5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/23/2013 at 12:47am
Originally posted by spenser

a lot of that seemed like good info for beginners.. however, truly no disrespect and props for putting together the videos man, but the way you explain how turning works is completely backwards.  you do carve starting with the front, and using your back leg as a "rudder" is exactly what you don't do - that's not turning, that's washing back and forth from edge to edge in skidded turns, scrubbing speed as you go.  a carve runs along the whole length of the edge from nose to tail, and at no point should you be sliding sideways on your edge, but rather running down the length of the sidecut, which is what carries you through the arc of each turn.  turns are initiated/started at the front contact point even though it doesn't necessarily feel like you're "steering" with the front.

I suppose it's somehow possible I totally missed something or misinterpreted, but I watched that part a few times to make sure I heard correctly and understood.  you can also see in the clip toward the end that your turns are skidded, because of the way you're moving your back leg like a rudder and sliding, instead of transitioning between edges as you ride the sidecut through each carve.  I'd just be concerned this is going to start people off on the wrong foot with learning and understanding how to carve properly, I guess.  and again, I really mean no disrespect at all, I just wanted to note that as it's pretty important.

Hey spenser, thanks for this and I really appreciate your feedback.  I actually had footage of my saying that what this teaches them is not actually carving but I edited that part out due to poor choice of wording on my part.  However, I actually don't mention at any point that this is proper carving, or carving at all for that matter.  

My goal with these videos is not to get first time riders to carve on their first day, but to build their confidence with utilizing both edges in succession to get down the hill (break them away from relying on leafing down the hill).  A proper carve is definitely going to take much longer to learn than one day, especially because it does require more speed and advanced control.

Believe me, if I had intended for beginners to learn to carve by the end of their first day on the slopes, I would not have posted that final clip of my bombing that run.  Although I did make an attempt to have clean and quick transitions from edge to edge with minimal washing, I do attribute the skidding to the icy conditions.

I hope this will ease some of your worries as I am not looking to mislead new riders into poor technique.  Would you suggest I add some sort of disclaimer or NOTE in the youtube description for the Part 4 video to explain this?  

For those who would like to progress into proper carving, I would suggest these videos:

Advanced Snowboarding Tips : How to Carve on a Snowboard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44KenqMrqI8

Learn How To Snowboard: Proper Turns | Snowboard Tricks For Freestyle Snowboarding
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fw4nswO748
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  Quote spenser Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/23/2013 at 1:38am
a note would probably be good, yeah.  anyway, I figured that was probably the case.
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  Quote fj5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/23/2013 at 2:06am
Originally posted by koji3

Originally posted by fj5

^ Yeah, the mic picks up my voice a lot better with the open backing rather than the water proof backing.
You can actually use a bit of sponge to cover over the mic and that cuts out a lot of the wind noise you get. 

Oh wow, thanks for the tip man!  I'll try and remember that next time I need to record audio with the GoPro in windy conditions.  I don't know why I didn't think of that, wish I did.

Originally posted by spenser

a note would probably be good, yeah.  anyway, I figured that was probably the case.

Done! (in the descriptions on the youtube pages for all Parts, 1-4)
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  Quote rye Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/23/2013 at 3:02pm
the mic is picking up so much wind but good stuff
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  Quote ekb18c Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/06/2013 at 9:12am
good intro videos..
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  Quote Angry Midget Yo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/06/2013 at 11:06am
Interesting, first time I've seen a tutorial with self filming.  LOL
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  Quote fj5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/06/2013 at 11:34am
Thanks ekb18c!

And Angry Midget Yo, it turned out a lot better than I expected. Tongue
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  Quote LaNieve Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/08/2013 at 1:20am
Sweet vids! I wish I got to see them first time I started...
dong a S on the first day though? it took me 3 damn seasons!!!
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  Quote fj5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/08/2013 at 3:38am
Thanks!  I know, I wish someone told me these things on my first day too.  It took me a few days before I was able to transition from edge to edge.  But, I've actually tried and tested this method on my friends, and they were able to S on their first days! Clap  Not carve, but wash/plow edge to edge. Tongue
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  Quote lightning80 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/08/2013 at 2:01pm
i downloaded these videos..and will play them in my car for my kid to watch on the way up the mountain Clap
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Nice, so YTD worked out for you?  I actually started to upload them on vimeo with the download feature enabled, but I have to wait till Tuesday to upload Part 4... not enough in my weekly limit to fit them all.  But I'm glad you were able to get them regardless.  I really hope he finds them helpful and maybe it'll get him all hyped up during the car ride. Big smile
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  Quote jhoang6 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/14/2013 at 5:26pm
Nice you finally got the vids up FJ!
Now I'm waiting to see the results on Thrive! I don't think there are many entrants to it tho
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  Quote jhoang6 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/23/2013 at 3:50pm
Finally got a chance to take a look at the vids FJ.
looking good! LOOKED like good conditions too! other than the high winds.. but damn... it makes me want to go ride..
that skiier at the end cut you off there...came realy close, shoulda smacked him with your GoPro
 
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  Quote fj5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/23/2013 at 8:54pm
He didn't really cut me off, but I think it was really stupid for him to pass me so closely.  It's not like he had limited options or anything, maybe he was just being a douche or trying to get in the video. LOL
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  Quote koji3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/02/2013 at 11:11pm
Showing my friends your vids, so he can polish up before NZ in a weeks time. 
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Added a new "Part 2" to the original post. :)
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I'm going to need to work on those more before I can do that. haha   Have you been starting to try them now?  Backside?  Frontside?  180s?
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