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    Posted: Jan/29/2013 at 12:11am
Ladies and gents,

I'm 5'11, 200 pounds and have started to feel pretty confident with my riding. Recently been hitting the park but still love free riding. Can someone shed some light on what type of board/size I should be looking at and based on that would rear entry bindings be sweet with the board or should I steer clear? Any thoughts would be appreciate.

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  Quote derbytownjoe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/29/2013 at 12:20am
Ippy's board buying guide

read this for insight on your board.

as far as bindings, there are *several threads around here discussing the *best bindings, and for that matter, the pros/cons and love/hate about rear-entry bindings.

as you are new, it should be noted that the search function at the top is crap....

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  Quote jades10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/29/2013 at 5:28am
Thanks dude, appreciate your help.
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  Quote Backside10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/29/2013 at 2:28pm
I am almost your size. 5'11" 190 with 10.5 boots. I ride a 156 midwide and ride quite a bit of park. I would consider my self a solid intermediate+ rider. If you plan on doing more cruising that parking riding, step up to a 158 ish, in my opinion anyway.  My brother is also about 6 ft and 200 lbs, with 12 boots, he rides a 156 wide for mostly park style riding. Hope that helps.
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  Quote jades10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan/31/2013 at 10:02pm
Thanks man, all the input I can get helps. I'll definitely look in that direction though.
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  Quote 2zz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/02/2013 at 11:08am
My buddy is the same size. A 156 will be great freestyle/freeride size. Depending on board, you can probably still ride pow with that size.
As far as bindings go, stay away from rear entry bindings or other bindings with similar tech.
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  Quote jades10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/03/2013 at 6:46am
Why is that? The stabity factor with the bindings?
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  Quote coolz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/03/2013 at 6:47am
Originally posted by jades10

Why is that? The stabity factor with the bindings?


from my own experience, its mainly the response of the binding thats lacking. Then again l did buy an extry level one, but when compared to the burton mission, they were like nothing.
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  Quote Angry Midget Yo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/03/2013 at 8:45am
Originally posted by coolz

Originally posted by jades10

Why is that? The stabity factor with the bindings?


from my own experience, its mainly the response of the binding thats lacking. Then again l did buy an extry level one, but when compared to the burton mission, they were like nothing.

But it is also preference.  
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  Quote 2zz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/03/2013 at 9:00am
Rear entry like the flows lack the toe strap, which hurts my responsiveness. I like my toe cap/strap for extra power and pop. And I feel some slack on the highback too.
K2 cinch system, I never ridden them.
K2 also have another quick in/out bindings with the autostrap. But is awkward trying to jam my toe in the autostrap while standing. Is much easier to strap in while sitting down so it kind of defeat the purpose of quick in/out bindings.
Stability shouldn't be an issue of bindings.
It's just my preference.
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  Quote jades10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/03/2013 at 2:04pm
Thanks for the info, I am a bit worried about the responsiveness of the rear entry bindings wihtout a toe strap, I thought Flow made binding with a toe strap though?
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  Quote snowboardinrox357 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/03/2013 at 3:49pm
Originally posted by jades10

Thanks for the info, I am a bit worried about the responsiveness of the rear entry bindings wihtout a toe strap, I thought Flow made binding with a toe strap though?


I think they do make bindings with toe straps.
On their website, they talk about a toe cap:

"Hybrid Powercap Strap
The HYBRID PowerCapStrap is a revolutionary hybrid between Flow's SpeedEntry convenience and conventional 2-strap SideEntry, merging the best of both. The toe cap delivers a perfect fit every time."

Here's the link if you want to check out some of the Flow binding features:
http://www.flow.com/Technology/Bindings#straps
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  Quote keljai Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/03/2013 at 3:55pm
on most model its not a real "toe strap" it does the connector thing, hard to explain but you dont have rachet either way. cehcking their site, only their m9-se has a real toe strap

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  Quote jades10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/03/2013 at 7:38pm
Thanks again for your help. Appreciate it.
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  Quote exastronaut Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/03/2013 at 8:08pm
I'm not trying to contradict other people here, but it seems like everyone is recommending really small boards. You said that you love free riding, but have started entering the park. I really don't think a 156 will hold up to any sort of speed free riding if you weigh 200 pounds. I weigh about 215, and I couldn't imagine owning a board that small.  I rode a 156 for one run and thought it was totally wimpy and awful.

I would recommend something like a 160-162. Generally speaking, if you go with any board that has a rockered tip/ tail it will be as easy to turn as a cambered 156, but when you get it on edge, there will be a lot more board to support you. I'm thinking something like a Ride Machete or a Bataleon Goliath.

Keep in mind that the type of board matters too. You could probably go with a softer flex on a bigger board, and you'd probably want a stiffer flex on a smaller board. 

Ultimately, one size does not fit all. But I'd be wary of going too small/ too soft. If you get a park-specific board in a 156, I don't think it'll be much fun at high (or even moderate) speed.
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  Quote jades10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/04/2013 at 11:33pm
Thanks dude, think I'll end up with two boards the way it's going!
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  Quote AJD13 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/05/2013 at 7:10am
as far as board sizing goes id go with a 156 with a mild rocker or a true camber profile.

Im 6'3 220lbs and stepping down to a 160 which i think i can realistically pull off so you might be able to go shorter if you want. 

as far as bindings go there are all sorts of materials, that give them a different feel. maybe some union contacts would be good for you? from what i hear theyre softer so they could be good in the park but stiff enough to hold up for some all mountain freeride.
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  Quote exastronaut Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/05/2013 at 8:35pm
If you're really not sure, see what boards you can demo. If you're lucky enough to have a demo day at a local mountain, you could get on a few different boards at different sizes.

Otherwise, don't be afraid to buy a used board rather than sink a lot of money into a new one. I've bought used gear, decided it wasn't for me, and sold it for basically the same price I bought it for. As soon as you buy a new board, the value takes a hit. Then you're stuck with it, or you have to take a loss if you decide it's not right for you.

There are so many options out there these days with lots of new manufacturers and new technology. Even if you do an incredible amount of research the odds aren't good that you're going to get the perfect board the first time. Get on demos, ride your friend's gear, buy some used stuff. Try to ride as many different setups as you can. No stranger on the internet knows what's right for you. 
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  Quote jades10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/07/2013 at 1:31pm
Just to update, I've tried a few different boards. The 156 mild rocker I used was great down the park, manoeuvrable and felt easy to jib with, not as good down when trying to shred. As to be expected the 162 I used didn't fair as well in the park but I felt like I was floating down the mountain. Thanks again for all your help. Greatly appreciated. Jades10
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