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    Posted: Apr/20/2013 at 6:53pm
I just want to take a minute and remind everybody in the backcountry that despite all proper measures mother earth can be a real bitch. Today was a tragic day in the Colorado snowboarding community as a very large, deep slab, broke and swept 6 people, killing 5, on an aspect of Loveland Pass. I had many friends on the pass today and I, myself, was suppose to be out there today for a split-fest. I'm grateful that non of my friends were injured, although mentally they are shaken and battered.

The snowpack of Colorado is about as weak as it gets right now. Heavy, wet, storms have added a lot of load to and weight to slopes that contain a VERY weak persistant slab deep in the snowpack. The added weight of recent snow and a trigger are making these very delicate situations. So everybody please be safe and err on the side of caution. If you have to ask yourself then you already know the answer...

Thoughts and prayers to those who lost their lives today and those who were involved.
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  Quote Angry Midget Yo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/20/2013 at 7:00pm
I heard about that incident, 5 snowboarders were killed under 8 feet of snow.  It is a sad loss.  
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  Quote Scorer099 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/20/2013 at 7:04pm
Originally posted by Angry Midget Yo

I heard about that incident, 5 snowboarders were killed under 8 feet of snow.  It is a sad loss.  


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  Quote mluu003 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/20/2013 at 7:16pm
Holy crap, omg. That's so insane. My prayers will go out to those lost and their families. I can't believe this happened...in APRIL?!
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  Quote bootleg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/20/2013 at 11:23pm
sickens my stomach to hear about news like this..such a loss towards the snowboarding community,my sincere condolences to the friends and families of the five that have passed. ~ride in paradise
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  Quote LaNieve Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/21/2013 at 2:28am
Been hearing a number of avalanche deaths from numerous sites recently.. Cry
Rest in peace for those who have passed.. 5 people in one avalanche is big, so many people would have been affected by this accident.
Hopefully there will be better safety measures taken by such accidents for future events etc and i look forward to the day i read more about the avalanche survival stories than deaths.
I read a story the other day and this guy survived being in an avalanche for more than 4 hours mainly because he had avalung (some product that provides you with clean air when trapped in an avalanche) maybe something like this should be more widely available to those snowboarding/skiing in backcountry areas..
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  Quote killclimbz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/21/2013 at 5:38am
Originally posted by LaNieve

Been hearing a number of avalanche deaths from numerous sites recently.. Cry
Rest in peace for those who have passed.. 5 people in one avalanche is big, so many people would have been affected by this accident.
Hopefully there will be better safety measures taken by such accidents for future events etc and i look forward to the day i read more about the avalanche survival stories than deaths.
I read a story the other day and this guy survived being in an avalanche for more than 4 hours mainly because he had avalung (some product that provides you with clean air when trapped in an avalanche) maybe something like this should be more widely available to those snowboarding/skiing in backcountry areas..


Avalungs are widely available at a very reasonable price.  These people were most likely strained through trees.  It sounds like their injuries getting buried is what killed them.  They were put through what Bruce Tremper calls the bread slicer.  There is no safety gear that can save you from that.  Over 25% of people who get buried are killed by the process.  I personally think that number is much higher.  Over the past three years, I can only think of three or four complete burials where a person was recovered and survived.  Out of around 30 burials a season.  The best thing is to flat out not get caught.  Avalungs, airbags, beacons, are last ditch efforts to save a life. 
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  Quote killclimbz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/21/2013 at 5:39am
I don't know what to say about this.  Five really good souls lost their lives.

RIP fellow shredders.
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  Quote snowmen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/21/2013 at 7:14am
Very sad news, RIP.
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Ian Lanphere, 36; Crested Butte, CO.

Rick Gaukel, 33; Estes Park, CO.

Chris Peters, 31; Lakewood, CO.

Joe Timlin, 32; Gypsum, CO.

Ryan Novak, 33; Boulder, CO.

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  Quote letourneau41 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/21/2013 at 1:22pm
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Ian Lanphere, 36; Crested Butte, CO.

Rick Gaukel, 33; Estes Park, CO.

Chris Peters, 31; Lakewood, CO.

Joe Timlin, 32; Gypsum, CO.

Ryan Novak, 33; Boulder, CO.

Rest In Peace.Cry

All very respected and reputable riders in the community.  Sad to see them pass away before their time.  RIP
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  Quote Migoo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/21/2013 at 2:03pm
Terrible news. Glad it was none of my friends who ride there at times. It's a beautiful spot. Very asd to hear.

RIP guys.
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As above, my thoughts and condolences go out to the families and anyone else affected by this tragedy.
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  Quote bwayne413 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/21/2013 at 2:42pm
Extremely sad news

RIP and thoughts and prayers to the families
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  Quote )(nfinit)( Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/21/2013 at 3:21pm
It's a truly sad and sobering day.  My prayers go out to their families.

If you are going to be out in the backcountry, please do your best to know and understand what is around you.  It may not be your group that triggers a slide.  I worry that these events will only continue to increase with the availability of the BC gear, more and more sleds, and lack of overall awareness.  That doesn't mean you won't get trapped, but understanding may also save your life or someone you are with.  We all know these things to be true, but many do not.  Especially those who don't know how weak the colorado snow layers can be.  It's definitely not like resort riding where the have controlled terrain.  

Again, my thoughts and prayers go out to their families.  Truly a sad sad day.  Thanks for the info JR, very happy you weren't in it my friend.
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  Quote CO_champagne Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/21/2013 at 3:55pm
I can't believe how sad this is.  I've never heard of that many people dying in one avalanche.  Such a sad end to the season.  Hopefully they are all shredding heaven now, together. 
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  Quote sideways99 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/21/2013 at 4:25pm
Sad and tragic event.  All were experienced and knowledgeable backcountry snowboarders and skiers.

Some of my friends (and friends of friends) often ride Loveland Pass and have as recently as this past week.  This terrible event will make you think twice when considering the current conditions of the snowpack.
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  Quote mommehK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/21/2013 at 8:14pm
Worst avy death since 1962. Sobering thought. Also, for the 2013 avy deaths, 1/2 of them have all been in CO. Disheartening to say the least. Too much activity this week for sure...heavy snow, high winds, Maroon broke away at Aspen Highlands, and now this. It's just not worth it.
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  Quote cds4288 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/22/2013 at 1:23am
An avalanche is probably one of the absolute worst ways to die. I am surprised that not everyone that does significant backcountry doesn't have an avalung or something similar. I would fork out the cash for the best one possible.
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  Quote Oinker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/22/2013 at 4:49am
Originally posted by cds4288

An avalanche is probably one of the absolute worst ways to die. I am surprised that not everyone that does significant backcountry doesn't have an avalung or something similar. I would fork out the cash for the best one possible.

All of the riders were fully equipped with ALL of the avalanche safety gear.... and still lost their lives. Mother nature is stronger & tougher than any tech that man can invent.

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  Quote Von44 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/22/2013 at 4:58am
Sad to hear about those that lost their lives. Deepest thoughts and prayers go out to the families. RIP
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  Quote Scorer099 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/22/2013 at 5:37am
Originally posted by cds4288

An avalanche is probably one of the absolute worst ways to die. I am surprised that not everyone that does significant backcountry doesn't have an avalung or something similar. I would fork out the cash for the best one possible.


Avalungs and airbag packs are great and help give you s lightly better chance, but none of that is going to help if you get strained through trees or rocks.
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  Quote Scorer099 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/22/2013 at 5:52am
Originally posted by mommehK

Worst avy death since 1962. Sobering thought. Also, for the 2013 avy deaths, 1/2 of them have all been in CO. Disheartening to say the least. Too much activity this week for sure...heavy snow, high winds, Maroon broke away at Aspen Highlands, and now this. It's just not worth it.


It's really not surprising that most avy deaths come from CO. We have consistently the worst, and most dangerous, snowpack in the US/Canada.
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^^^ Yeah, and the continental snowpack is combined with a lot of people getting out there and charging.  I was really sad about this incident, FWIW I hate to see it happen at a splitter event like this to experienced people who were probably doing everything "right" and I'm sure were good people.  Anyway, glad scorer and killclimbz (and whoever else is on this site out that direction) weren't out there.  

Fairly informative article I saw floating around this weekend: 

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_23074729/colorado-avalanche-victims-bash-tragic

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  Quote letourneau41 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/22/2013 at 7:18am
Friends of Berthoud Pass posted a link to a fund for Ian's family to their facebook page.   All of the money goes to Ian's fiance and daughter Madelyn.  Please think about donating.  

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wow sad story... glad it was put up here otherwise would've missed it.

Definitely ride for these guys for the remainder of your season and from here on out. Tragic to hear. \
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  Quote mommehK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/22/2013 at 9:10am
Thanks for posting the indiegogo link letourneau...I was coming here to post it. Venture Snowboards in Silverton linked it up on their FB...it was a Venture sales rep who was the sole survivor.
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Definitely donate whatever you can to the fund for Ian.  Nothing is too small. 

I am also sure there is going to be a benefit at some point here in the future.  So start planning on showing up for the cause now.  Everyone is still reeling from this and need a little time for this to set in.  You can bet that once the initial shock and pain subsides, things will be put together quickly to help out everyone involved in this. 

Also, as I was typing this, Lou Dawson's blog put up an account from Mike Bennett on the accident.  Mike was one of the first on scene and helped dig out Jerome.

http://www.wildsnow.com/9938/mike-bennett-sheep-creek-avalanche/
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  Quote killclimbz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/24/2013 at 7:22am
Our executive Director Shan Sethna and Lead Avalanche Instructor Justin Peacock for Friends of Berthoud Pass have put down some thoughts about this tragic accident and how we can collectively move forward.

http://berthoudpass.org/2013/04/24/on-working-and-learning-together/
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  Quote mommehK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/24/2013 at 4:40pm
The official CAIC report was released today...fascinating to read the science of the occurrence, but so heartbreaking to read how the tragedy unfolded:

https://avalanche.state.co.us/acc/acc_report.php?accfm=inv&acc_id=505&view=public
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Outside Magazine posted an interesting article about this avalanche. Calls into question why they went the direction they did.

http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/snow-sports/Loveland-Pass-Avalanche-The-Worst-Accident-That-Shook-the-Ski-Industry.html?page=all
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Originally posted by mommehK

Another interesting read...

http://www.wildsnow.com/9980/sheep-creek-avalanche-site-visit/

I like that article.  I wonder why the main avalanche investigators do not give such detailed information on the decisions made.
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^^^Primarily because most investigative reports (not CAIC specific) are meant to be purely factual in nature, without drawing conclusion into the human aspect of it. Think about a police report on a car accident. Tends to be more cut & dry, black & white, however you want to put it.

I'm still blown away at this...reports were of a 12ft recovery dig, this brings it hitting home hard like a sledgehammer.

Edit: I had the 12ft digout pic linked, but it was ginormous...pic's in the article below...

http://www.backcountryaccess.com/2013/04/29/scared-straight-an-invaluable-fatherson-visit-to-the-sheep-creek-avalanche-site/
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I like this quote.  "Of course, the ultimate success story is no story at all, just a few chuckles after a great day of riding."

So true.  So many outings of course there are some disasters.  Even with this accident aside, the current average deaths for Colorado is 6 per year.  Even with the huge explosion in bc use.  You would think the number would have gone up.  Of course if we keep having accidents like this it will go up.  I think that the reason that it hasn't gone up is because people are trying to do the right thing in their own fashion.  Awareness is way up in this state.  Sure there are people out there with no idea, but they are the minority user.

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I'm still blown away at this...reports were of a 12ft recovery dig, this brings it hitting home hard like a sledgehammer.

Edit: I had the 12ft digout pic linked, but it was ginormous...pic's in the article below...

http://www.backcountryaccess.com/2013/04/29/scared-straight-an-invaluable-fatherson-visit-to-the-sheep-creek-avalanche-site/

If that photo isn't a wake up call I don't know what is.

One of the the comments posted at the end of the article brought tears to my eyes:

FrankT  2 days ago

I visited the spot also. What affected me most were the writings on the memorial:

"To my boy - I love you forever. Wait for me at heaven's gate. Mom"

"On your myspace page you said I was your hero - but you always will be mine. Dad"

"The best son any parents could have ever had. We miss you. Love Mom & Dad"

As a parent it makes me cry even to type this. Hold your kids close as these parents obviously did. You never know how long you have.


I cannot even begin to imagine the pain the families are experiencing.  My eyes are tearing up as I type this.
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