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  Quote mcooper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Board Advice
    Posted: Jul/20/2013 at 2:19am
I need your guys help. So, im an all mountain rider probably 40% trails 60% park and im due a new board. Im thinking Arbor Westmark with K2 formulas (bad knees so I wanted cambered). Can you guys suggest any other boards that I could research and compare to the Westmark?

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  Quote Angry Midget Yo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/20/2013 at 9:36am
What's the budget you are working with?  I would look into camber decks from Never Summer or Thrive to compare with Arbor to see which one you like best.
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  Quote julius77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/20/2013 at 11:14am
Also, which boards have you tried and liked? Softer, forgiving boards; stiffer aggressive? For this season, the Forum Destroyer is cambered, and is a great all mtn/park deck. Including your stats, I.e. height/weight/boot size, can help others give you better recommendations, or at least more specific to your boarding needs.
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  Quote mcooper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/20/2013 at 11:23am
Don't really have a budget just want a good board, I've ridden the burton custom which I did like but i think I want to go abit more park based, I am 5'9 and 175lbs boot size is 10.5.
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  Quote julius77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/20/2013 at 11:46am
When I rode an X8, my impression was that it rode solidly on groomers, but was stiff for a park board. You might really like it. I think I rode a '10 or '11, and I remember it was a cambered, twin board. I don't think you'll need a wide with a 10.5 boot, but you will need est bindings unless you find a model from a few years ago. Another cambered board people seem to love for park is the uninc, but they stopped making it, or call it something else now. If you don't have a budget, there will be loads of boards that will fit your criteria (60park/40all mtn). The Capita Stairmaster is another great cambered park board, relatively cheap; but I'm sure there will a lot of 2013/14 boards for you to demo. 
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  Quote vicente Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/20/2013 at 8:47pm
take a look at the lib tech hot knife, it's almost completely cambered for the most part just has tiny dip in the center that makes it a hybrid, I rode the C3 jamie lynn last year one of the sickest boards I've ever been on. 
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  Quote Lux Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/20/2013 at 9:34pm
The Westmark is a pretty nice snowboard that's made mostly for park riders who do it all. It was also my top pick for my next board, but that fell in favour for a more aggressive full camber board. So I know where you're coming from because I am in the same position. Besides, I already have an Arbor board.

I would also forget about the K2 Formula and get a Flux TT30. I know other members here might get annoyed by my repeated Flux recommendations, but you'll understand why once you buckle them on.
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  Quote mcooper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/20/2013 at 9:59pm
I did look into the TT30's but I have read some bad reviews about the durability of the TT30's?
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  Quote Lux Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/20/2013 at 10:33pm
Originally posted by mcooper

I did look into the TT30's but I have read some bad reviews about the durability of the TT30's?
I haven't come across any legitimately bad reputation for Flux products. Flux has the lowest warranty rate in the industry... I've had four of their bindings, including the TT30, and I submit that the TT30 (and others using their "Genetic" baseplate) was the most durable model of their line. But, honestly, try them on and decide for yourself. I see all equipment by its merits and Flux has scored top marks with me every time.
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  Quote 2zz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/20/2013 at 11:00pm
Flux are great bindings. My buddy has the '10/'11...rk30???...the ones with urethane highbacks. Holding up well, condition is bout 9/10 after 50+ days of hard riding. The 1/10 is just cosmetics from riding but is normal. He takes care of them and stores them well too. We switch bindings a few times. Great if not the best ratchets, best straps, super comfy. I had Burton's, Salomon's, Ride's, etc. I prefer my Union Rosa's (very similar to men's Flite) now though.
Him and I both ride Rome Artifact Rocker. But the camber version is probably just as awesome.
Also Capita Stairmaster or the Extreme version (a little stiffer).
Signal also make great durable boards. My other buddy and I ride their Park Rocker, though I got the women's Vita Rocker. They have a camber version too...pretty sure.

I'm a lighter guy, so I can get away with using women's gear.
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  Quote mcooper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/21/2013 at 12:57am
I guess every bit of equipment lasts as long as you take good care of them. Would you recommend them for bad knees over canted?
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  Quote Angry Midget Yo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/21/2013 at 10:26am
I was riding Burton until I tried out Flux and now I'm a believer!  LOL  Their ratchets are smooth and have the most comfy straps ever plus bindings are pretty light and adjustments can be made without any tools.    
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  Quote Lux Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/21/2013 at 11:44am
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I guess every bit of equipment lasts as long as you take good care of them. Would you recommend them for bad knees over canted?
For bad knees, you want shock absorption and cushioning. Most people make the mistake of relying on the binding to do all of that when it's actually the responsibility of the boot and insole. You want good support, adjustability, and strap comfort from a binding and nothing more. Selecting boots with dampening EVA pods in the sole and a matching insole are the most effective way to relieve your knees from shock. My Burton Grail boots have an EVA bushing moulded into the heel and it was a substantial difference in dampening to me, even though I have no knee problems and have matched it with an aggressively firm insole.

Flux's multi-density footbeds on their high-end models (SF45, DS30, DMCC/light) depress and mould according to load; the same principle behind Burton's AutoCANT.
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I did not even know boots even did that these days. Crazy but thanks alot
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  Quote 2zz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/24/2013 at 7:11pm
I only rode bindings with canting a few times. After a full day of hard riding, my body felt the same. So, I don't remember it taking pressure off my body. It felt weird, so I got rid of them. But if you are only bombing down slopes and not into tricks, canted feels great on carving.
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  Quote ctoma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/25/2013 at 5:00am
I use canted footpads in my Rome Targa and 390 bindings and for me they make a difference.  I have a bad knee and prior to the canted footpads I would experience some soreness in my knee after a full day of riding.  I experimented with binding angles, stance width, etc. and it didn't make a difference.  Since I have been using the canted footpads I have not felt the same soreness.

Now the question is do the footpads truly make a difference or is it a placebo effect and it's all in my mind?
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  Quote lightning80 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/25/2013 at 8:20am
Looks like the discussion has shifted to bindings, away from snowboards?
 
I'd echo the suggestions for canted footpads, even though I don't have bad knees. But I can see how that would help, by changing the angle and putting less pressure on the knees.
 
For the board, I would suggest a hybrid camber, so you can use it for both the park and the trails. Both ctoma and I have a hybrid cambered Thrive Renegade and love it. You can check it out from the links in our sig.
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  Quote Angry Midget Yo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/25/2013 at 9:45am
I can vouch for footpads, I used to feel soreness around the arch of my feet after walking or riding awhile but after I stuck some footpads in, I didn't feel the soreness until like at the end of the day or even at all.
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  Quote JDiggidy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/25/2013 at 10:52am
My knees used to hurt more when riding, and to solve it, i simply started running a smaller stance width.  it lessens the angle and puts less pressure on mine.  But bad knees are all different, and the angle may or may not help your knee like it helped me.
 
If you prefer a wider stance cowboy, by all means... cant that thing up!
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  Quote shwazy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/27/2013 at 6:22am
Originally posted by julius77

When I rode an X8, my impression was that it rode solidly on groomers, but was stiff for a park board. You might really like it. I think I rode a '10 or '11, and I remember it was a cambered, twin board. I don't think you'll need a wide with a 10.5 boot, but you will need est bindings unless you find a model from a few years ago. Another cambered board people seem to love for park is the uninc, but they stopped making it, or call it something else now. If you don't have a budget, there will be loads of boards that will fit your criteria (60park/40all mtn). The Capita Stairmaster is another great cambered park board, relatively cheap; but I'm sure there will a lot of 2013/14 boards for you to demo. 
x8 has been a rockered board since 10 I believe...09 was the last year it was cambered and they do not even make the board anymore.  I used to own it and it was a fun board though...although I wouldn't call it stiff in my view.
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