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    Posted: Mar/03/2014 at 2:33pm
Who uses it and who doesn't? I've heard that base cleaners dry out your base and you really should not be using it every time you wax. Then I've heard that you need to use it to get out all the old dirty stuff. Enlighten me TruSnow people!
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correct!  you don't need to use it all the time.  Just when your base is really nasty.  You can do a hot scrap were the wax pulls the grime out of your board.  Scrap it off to get the crud off your base.  That seems to be the best option.  This is what I do most of the time.  I hardly ever use base cleaner.  Usually the only time I use cleaner is in the spring, post season to get all the crud out from spring riding and before I put a storage coat of wax on my boards.
 Using the cleaner all the time isn't the best for your base.
Vicente should find this thread and be able to enlighten you further as he is a board and ski tech at Sugar Bowl resort in Tahoe.
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pretty much what mike said for most stuff and just hot scrape it if you need to, I don't usually bother with my stuff it's a snowboard I have fun on, not a race ski getting to the bottom of the .317 of a second faster doesn't make my day any better. You should only use base cleaner if you get something like pine sap or grease from a lift or groomer on your board cause that stuff won't hot scrape out. 
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What about rubbing alcohol? I read that somewhere and used that instead. Didn't seem to do anything really as the paper towel wasn't black or nasty looking.
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  Quote bootleg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/06/2014 at 3:03pm
Originally posted by Pngo12

What about rubbing alcohol? I read that somewhere and used that instead. Didn't seem to do anything really as the paper towel wasn't black or nasty looking.

I use rubbing alcohol for light grime and dirt after scraping the old wax off ,I normally put a small dab on a paper towel and just give it a good wipe down but the base cleaner would be more useful if your base is really gunky all over ,plus it's more expensive than the other alternatives ,some of the solvents in the base cleaner is strong it can deteriorate material over time.
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  Quote Lux Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/06/2014 at 4:03pm
Base cleaner is more often used for stripping the base in preparation for a PTEX weld or base grind. Otherwise, it is not a requirement for regular hot waxing.

Isopropyl alcohol is an acceptable alternative. It just doesn't have slicking additives like proper base cleaner, so it will vaporise a little quicker.

I recommend using a lint-free synthetic cloth to clean the base, but it probably won't really matter; as long as you're not soaking up all the cleaning solution like a sponge.
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  Quote vicente Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/06/2014 at 7:39pm
Ok guys for any normal waxing there are two correct ways to do it. 1 pre-brush you get a steel brush  and you use it to brush all the old wax and dirt out of your board brass works ok but not as well, brushing will also remove old base materiel that has worn off and gotten packed into the base structure, this is my preferred method for my own stuff. 2 hot scrape you all know how to do it great for removing stuff that's not to packed in but doesn't do nearly as much to freshen up and clean out the structure. sometimes if I do a full tune, (sand base back to flat and stone grind) I will do both brush first to loosen everything up and then hot scrape.

Lux you don't ever bother cleaning a base off before a grind cause you're grinding off all the exposed base anyways, pretty much just a waste of time. 

also I do actually really know what I'm talking about I have 5 years (tune only) shop experience, 3 of it under an Olympic gold medal winning technician, anything I tell you related to tuning comes from one of the best in the world teaching it to me. 

 
 
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Ok guys for any normal waxing there are two correct ways to do it. 1 pre-brush you get a steel brush  and you use it to brush all the old wax and dirt out of your board brass works ok but not as well, brushing will also remove old base materiel that has worn off and gotten packed into the base structure, this is my preferred method for my own stuff. 2 hot scrape you all know how to do it great for removing stuff that's not to packed in but doesn't do nearly as much to freshen up and clean out the structure. sometimes if I do a full tune, (sand base back to flat and stone grind) I will do both brush first to loosen everything up and then hot scrape.
Lux you don't ever bother cleaning a base off before a grind cause you're grinding off all the exposed base anyways, pretty much just a waste of time. 
also I do actually really know what I'm talking about I have 5 years (tune only) shop experience, 3 of it under an Olympic gold medal winning technician, anything I tell you related to tuning comes from one of the best in the world teaching it to me. 
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Shut up you lie. Just kidding, thanks for the tip! Some good advice on here and I'll definitely be following it when I go to wax my board again.
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